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Everyone says this Kinetic Cutting Beam is a must...but...
realisticalty
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The description says something like 8 proton damage for ~8.4 DPS or so.
What am I missing?
What am I missing?
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Cutting Beam
Energy Damage
360' targeting arc
to target: 378.1 Kinetic Damage (302.5 DPS)
to self: -8 Weapon Power when firing other weapons
to target: Enables CuttingBeam mode
2.5% Chance: Lesser of -20 or -20% Able Crew
1% Chance: Lesser of -10 or -10% Alive Crew
Kinetic Cutting Beam
Assimilated Module Omega Plasma Torpedo Launcher
Set powers
For each item added after the first, an additional power is available.
Set 2: Omega Weapon Amplifier
On hit with any energy weapon, 2.5% chance: to self: Applies Omega Weapon Amplifier:
+10 Current Weapon Power
+500 Current Weapon Power Resistance Rating for 3 sec
+500 Maximum Weapon Power Resistance Rating for 3 sec
Set 3: Reactive Deflection
Passive
1% Chance when hit to reduce all incoming damage by approximately 99% for 2 seconds. This cannot occur more frequently than once every 30 seconds.
Is why the Cutting beam is popular for the 2pc weapon power drain resistance which in turn makes all you weapons perform better as they have more power to use.
lol post ended up after the guy above me (edited) his info is more complete but yea its a nice addition...
I'll let someone else do the math on this, but depending on how many tactical consoles you have and the procs associated with your energy type, using the KCB verses an aft beam array or turret sorta washes out at a certain point, in terms of pure DPS.
If your ship is a high-end (4+ tac console) model that can use dual cannons, your definitely best off using all turrets in the back to take full advantage of your cannon abilities (rapid fire / scatter volley.)
Also the actual utility of the KCB is somewhat situational. It deals kinetic damage, which works best on unshielded targets like Borg gateways or the Crystalline Entity - not so good against heavily shielded targets like Voth ships and other players.
Also it depends on the synergy of your build. If you have the KCB, you should have at least the Assimilated Console as well to get the set bonus. And the KCB really is a must-have if you are running the three-piece Borg set, because of the way it improves the Borg tractor beam.
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As for the -actual- cutting beam, I can see from your responses that I clearly want the KCB and the console - and the Omega Plasma Torp Launcher too (been wanting that for awhile.)
I'm running a tac plasma beam boat at the moment because I was too frustrated aiming cannons with my scimi's turn rate, but if I go (back) to cannons (which I might at some point) I'll definitely look into turrets in back.
Wow, I am amazed that I haven't seen anyone mention this before anywhere...seems kinda important...
Thanks -very- much!
Now to grind Omega marks until I turn into one....
DBB setups work nicely with a tac ship.
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I don't know about easy, but I agree with your philosophy that in this and other MMO's, there are many ways to get to "good enough." I'm not inclined to crunch numbers, so if there is an "optimal" build that is only situationally better or only a "little bit better" then I'm not going to stretch for it, I just want to be informed as to what are generally the best "more or less" so I'm basically on target and also to help my understanding of how the game works.
If there is an item, or set of items, that very straightforwardly put me in the "more or less" "best equipped" or "best equipped without making STO a second full time job" then I'm happy with that.
And I admit that reading what everyone things is "best" can not only inform me of what I should and should not bother with, but help me decide when to go my own way.
Can you give me an idea of what elite tac consoles you're referring to, I'm still not as educated as I'd like to be on what I should be shooting for.
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Your looking for Vulnerability Locators for Critical Chance and Vulnerability Exploiters for Critical Severity Damage.
Both cost 50K Fleet Credits and 9600 Dilithium Each
I recommend if your going to aim for something to have at least 4 Locators because Higher Crit is more critical hits in combat which helps your dps (if your into DPS that is
My Fed Toon went from 9.5% Crit to 17.5% when I put mine on and wow things exploded everywhere xD
My Rom on the other hand went up to over 30% Crit and that was terrifying lol
(NB - Forgot to mention they come in different flavours too and offer an damage increase of 31.9% per console so it is far cheaper to get these than the 30% consoles on the exchange that used to be so good
Reading that in your voice is hilarious. Just saying.
Also dont forget that there are generic beam/cannon damage types that can make a "rainbow" or other hybrid build very potent. I believe they run on the order of 27.9%, so a loss of 4 percent damage, at a gain of not having to copycat every single weapon to a type (such as running all AP beam arrays with say an elachi DBB for a very nasty BO shot, etc). And they still come with the massive crit increases.
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For escorts is much better than a turret. Much much better.. lol. But if you can mix both, there you go. Turrets are the worst weapon in the game, and 1 turret alone is useless. Its far better to replace the turret with the KCB if you are using only 1 turret. Thats what i got in my other escort.
But in my breen warship, my build includes all plasma weapons except the KCB, omega torpedo launchers, hyper plasma romulan torpedos, KCB, elite dual hevay plasma canons and 1 little and almost useless plasma turret. My back is guarded by 2 elite fleet plasma torpedos, plus the KCB and the turret. And i think its performance, its just amazing.
I am trying to replace the plasma turret in the back for something else more useful, but i want it to be 360 arc and plasma based. So i dont have options, since the other 360 weapons are the AP and i dunno about anything else (besides turrets).
But one thing for sure, i will never remove the KCB, its one of the most useful weapons on the game. I use it all the time to destroy incoming torpedoes, mines, fighters, etc. Agains science ships, the KCB is great, because it can make a ship to have hard times repairing (damn voth, stop repairing your hull!!! lol)
And i agree that having a really high critical chance is just awesome. I dont have high critical chance in space (trying to save now a lot of dilithium to start buying fleet consoles) but in ground, i end with about 30-35% critical chance with my tactical toon lol. And its just boring sometimes, but at the same time, funny. I cant imagine in space.. the fun must be epic. Killing a tholian battleship in 4 seconds is worthy to see...
I wonder, is the gravity well and tyken's rift able to produce critics? if thats the case, are there fleet consoles with this purpose? (improves critical chance on exotic damage or something like that).
If you have fun with it on your ship thats good and in the end thats all that really matters.
If the target is behind you it doesnt matter, i dont see your point. You are forgetting the KCB is a support weapon, we are talking about how good is it as a support weapon. The KCB is not a direct damage weapon and it was never the purpose.
Every 360? arc weapon is weak in terms of damage, that is universal. For turrets, for the AP , for the KCB, etc. If you have a slow cruiser , of course you must have strong weapons to not waste the time you back is exposed. But on escorts.. lol, a KCB is far more useful that turrets, and thats what i said.
Hmm, I had forgotten about those. It brings up a question: the "Lotus" attacks from the Veteran Destroyers, do we know if one of those console types works for it? I'd figure if any of them do, it would be Beam, thus allowing for a vet ship that used some other type of energy for its main weapons besides phasers/disruptors/plasma, but still buffed the lotus.
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I'm sure your DPS is great, but as Kahless said, "a petaQ with high system mastery is still a petaQ." (Well, he should have said it...!)
the web is probably the best way to compare gear, it seems like most of the gear on the wiki were installed in a way that allows relative comparison of items (even if the exact values will change on your ship).
Yeah, if you want to "rainbow" a vet destroyer, (which is a hilarious thing to do, BTW - the Lotus attack doesn't share a cool down with beam abilities,) you'll want to use either the Directed Energy Distribution consoles or [+beam] spire consoles.
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