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Noob Question, are Harghpeng Torps really that powerful?
rogueninech
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I have only been playing STO for three weeks, just got promoted to Captain and am now outfitting my new Refit Venture Class. Been running around in the Thunderchild Class Refit which confirms that I really don't care for escorts too much. I think my play style is more conducive to cruise 'n bruise than shoot 'n scoot.
My Thunderchild is outfitted with MK IV Rare Equipment, and my consoles are all geared toward shield and hull repair with the exceptions of the Point Defense Phaser and the Directed Energy Consoles. My weapons are
Mk IV Retrofit Forward Phaser Bank (Rare)
Voth Mk IV Anti-Proton Beam Array (Fore, Very Rare)
Hargh'Peng Torpedo Mk VI (Fore, Very Rare) [Equipped after Doomsday Device of course]
Mk IV Phaser Beam Array (Aft, Rare)
Mk IV Quantum Torpedo Launcher (Aft, Rare)
Anyway on to my question, I finished "The Doomsday Device" and got the Hargh'Peng Torpedo Mark VI as a reward and right after that I did a Borg Emergency (I think they're called STFs?) and there were about six or seven other ships fighting as well. Anyway I hit High Yield I and Overload Beam I and fired all fore weapons into the weakened Borg shield and then I came about and unloaded my aft weapons including two quantum torps into the cube as well. Shortly after that the cube exploded and I thought: "Okay the other ships hurt it bad enough before I got there, and I helped finish it off." I usually wait to see where everyone else is going, since going solo against a cube usually ends with me having to respawn. So even on full impulse, other ships are already attacking by the time I get there.
However I began to notice the purple "Radiation Effect" and that the Borg ships seemed to be going down quicker than what I was used to before I got the Hargh'Peng. Finally the Unimatrix showed up and during the battle I noticed that it seemed as though the Borg ships targeted me a lot more than before, and the Unimatrix's Hull damage was going up fast. I used the same tactic: fire all fore and then aft weapons, rinse and repeat. Then came the big explosion signaling that we had won, and I got the accolade "Nemesis of Unimatrix Seven of Ten (I think)." I forget exactly what number designation, but I was in the Regulus sector when that battle took place.
Since then I have been named the nemesis of two other Unimatrixes, and possibly a fourth but that one I'm not sure about. So is it really the Hargh'Peng Torpedo doing the bulk of the damage accredited to me or is it because it's combined with the Voth Antiproton Beam Array?
Also if any of you fought in those STFs with me please don't take offense, I'm just a noob asking a question and not tooting my own horn.
My Thunderchild is outfitted with MK IV Rare Equipment, and my consoles are all geared toward shield and hull repair with the exceptions of the Point Defense Phaser and the Directed Energy Consoles. My weapons are
Mk IV Retrofit Forward Phaser Bank (Rare)
Voth Mk IV Anti-Proton Beam Array (Fore, Very Rare)
Hargh'Peng Torpedo Mk VI (Fore, Very Rare) [Equipped after Doomsday Device of course]
Mk IV Phaser Beam Array (Aft, Rare)
Mk IV Quantum Torpedo Launcher (Aft, Rare)
Anyway on to my question, I finished "The Doomsday Device" and got the Hargh'Peng Torpedo Mark VI as a reward and right after that I did a Borg Emergency (I think they're called STFs?) and there were about six or seven other ships fighting as well. Anyway I hit High Yield I and Overload Beam I and fired all fore weapons into the weakened Borg shield and then I came about and unloaded my aft weapons including two quantum torps into the cube as well. Shortly after that the cube exploded and I thought: "Okay the other ships hurt it bad enough before I got there, and I helped finish it off." I usually wait to see where everyone else is going, since going solo against a cube usually ends with me having to respawn. So even on full impulse, other ships are already attacking by the time I get there.
However I began to notice the purple "Radiation Effect" and that the Borg ships seemed to be going down quicker than what I was used to before I got the Hargh'Peng. Finally the Unimatrix showed up and during the battle I noticed that it seemed as though the Borg ships targeted me a lot more than before, and the Unimatrix's Hull damage was going up fast. I used the same tactic: fire all fore and then aft weapons, rinse and repeat. Then came the big explosion signaling that we had won, and I got the accolade "Nemesis of Unimatrix Seven of Ten (I think)." I forget exactly what number designation, but I was in the Regulus sector when that battle took place.
Since then I have been named the nemesis of two other Unimatrixes, and possibly a fourth but that one I'm not sure about. So is it really the Hargh'Peng Torpedo doing the bulk of the damage accredited to me or is it because it's combined with the Voth Antiproton Beam Array?
Also if any of you fought in those STFs with me please don't take offense, I'm just a noob asking a question and not tooting my own horn.
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They are fast, hit hard, have a radiation effect and secondary explosion.
The drawback is that it is not boosted by either High yield nor Torpedo spread.
The most common usage for the harpeng is in torpedo builds where the fact that it is not connected to torpedo abilities such a High yield and TS and the common cooldown is actually an asset.
Overall it is a fun torpedo to use.
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Its long cooldown make its nice damage into questionable DPS. That is, it hits hard enough, but you only get one shot on most enemy or 2-3 tops on anything short of a major boss or tough pvp opponent.
Its a good weapon, and it is useful in several situations, but it is not the best item in the game either. You can get it free from DO mission or repeating some story mission at 50 to get the XI version.
IMHO it is most useful for some combination of these:
- players with no torp skills on their tac officers
- torpedo ships that have the 3 cooldown reducing duty officers on torps
- a niche aft weapon for occasional use
- a swap in weapon to make use of its aoe or ability to catch fast enemy
- as a substitute for plasma
- as a decent weapon that is easy to get when you do not have better
Oh, and at low levels, absolutely it is one of your best free weapons. At 50, the XI version, is when it becomes one of many, many good choices.
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Its a decent weapon at least.
I always go back and replay it for the MK XI version. I recommend you do it too.
Oh and the Nemisis of Unimatrix.... Thats an accolade you and everyone else gets one everytime you go into a red alert and destroy a different ship. (For the first time.)
also STFs and red alerts are two different things.
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And here I was feeling all special, and you had to go ruin it!:D Just kidding, so what are STFs then?
Edit: Nevermind, I looked up STFs but I was wondering are they hard to do?
There are two types of STF's normal and elite. Personally stay clear of elites until you are fully competent and have a a decent MKXII load out on your ship. There is an AFK penalty accosiated with STF's so don't sit there and watch as you will get penalised for not taking part. There are specific stratagies to all the STF's so it is always best to ask beforehand how to do things. STF's come with optional criteria to complete and most of us like to get those rewards, so if you end up in a team where you could be the cause of others not getting the extra rewards sometimes new players to STF's do get some abuse.
When you do become able to take part in STF's, no matter how silly your question may be, you can ask on here, and someone will always be willing to give you the answers you need.
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Seriously?? that is the dumbest queue ever. You dont need team skills there, just kill as many ships u can before the time runs out. There is no "team" effort or watever. I guess u talking about federation fleet alert. The only missions where u need to coordinate with a team are STFs basically, on where u will need to communicate directly with your team. But in starfleet fleet alerts.. lol, nah, its just kill everything u can. Even in the blockade, or other low level queues, for example, there is no team comm, because there is no need. And nobody will use it..
Now. Other thing completely different is to do team work, and as u mentioned, to aid people that are in trouble, to support low numbers against strong enemies and so on. But those are the basics for the PVE in general, playing a STF is another completely different story, since you not only need to apply these basics, but communicate with our team if you are rookie, that is a must.
Anyways, i dont think u guys realize (i did just a few days ago) the ammount of rare torpedoes are in - game through the rep projects. I can count about 10 or so. Which is the strongest one? and the more reliable?
I plan to add the gravimetric photon torpedo from dyson to my build, is it worthy?
The torpedo in question should not really be considered a torpedo at all. It is unaffected by projectile cool down doffs, and it can not be abilitified(made up word, don't hate) by high yield or torpedo spread.
Due to its long cooldown, it isn't practical...it does carry a certain gimmick aura about it...big glowing ball of doom with its own skin that hits the hull, burns the hull and blows up a second time after the dot expires.
I'd give it 2 thumbs down strength department
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I assumed both sides were the same, but no, I play kdf and there is no timer, you lose by letting the NPC ships blow up your starbase, you win by killing them all. It is extremely easy and is more or less "shoot em all" yes, but you can *practice* being in a group for your first few times in this EASY mission, again at first just shooting and later you can toss out a few heals or coordinate a bit, to learn, as you said, the basics. No, its nothing like an elite STF. One thing at a time for the new guy. BTW when I say coordinate, I do not mean fire up a voip or chat in the team channel about the 'strategy' so much as learning to pay attention to what others are doing and then work on playing your role a little, working together without having to talk about it is the skill you want to learn here.
There are a bunch of neat torps out there indeed. There is a good run down on them in here: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=873351
Yup. U right, the only common thing is the name "torpedo", but this is something that cryptic should change. If it is a torpedo weapon, it should have the same procs and affected skills than other torpedos. Even if it is a stronger one. One way to balance this is just to make the cooldown higher, but maintaining the same characteristics as regular torpedos, but cryptic just took the easy way. Sadly this issue applies to many weapons, specially the rep ones. It doesnt make sense to research a super great amazing torpedo, if it is not a torpedo at all.. xD.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Breen_Transphasic_Cluster_Torpedo
If you liked the Hargh'peng, you'll love the Breen Torp...especially when it crits....lots of big yellow numbers make me smile.
Like the Hargh'peng, it too cannot be "abilified" by High Yield or Spread, but can have it's place in a weapon loadout.
One thing to note - the hargh'peng is non targettable by abilities such as fire at will, ect - unlike the breen cluster, which can be destroyed before impact - thus if you see faw using mobs, switch to the harpie
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This is very correct. Especially in areas where there is a tremendous amount of AoE going on, e.g. Voth Space battles. The cluster torp gets destroyed 90% of the time when used in there, so I take it out in any Sphere battles, especially in the contested zone.
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