Hi all, I absolutely love the Intrepid, and was wondering if anyone knew a way to outfit it for a Tactical commander and how I would use it as it's a science vessel.
I run an energy siphon build. Two copies of ES2 with Tyken's Rift 3 as the Commander power (bit of synergy between them as you can max flow caps). I use Juel Ducane and Mariah Kerr, and a purple M/AM doff for the aux2ID thing. It's a fun boat to fly.
At the moment she's equipped with fleet polaron DBBs with a couple turrets in the back but I'm looking to switch to antiprotons whenever I get around to doing Sphere of Influence with that character.
Instead of going dual beam banks you could get beam arrays and broadside, they increased the arcs of many science abilities so it's now possible. With energy siphon up constantly you should have high power levels to power the weapons too.
You will do more damage in the long run and it will allow you to solo a lot of otherwise harder stuff, unless you were planning on putting mines or torps in the rear.
RSP1 or RSP3 w/doff, never RSP2.. You just wasted a sweet spot on an Eng Boff.
Also, Dual A2B with a Commander Boff ship has got to be one of the better facepalm ideas I have seen since that player that put four Engineering Teams on his ship...Cause he didn't want to die. heh
I am no picking on you CapnShadow..I am trying to point out serious problems with your build(s).
Let me explain it. Two A2B equals ZERO Aux power 75% of the time. That means no power for Science skills and your Subsystem targeting is completely useless. A Recluse built around Science cannot be used as an A2B boat.
Whoever sold you that bag of beans stole your cow.
You know Cryptic has Jumped the Proverbial Shark when they introduced Tractor Pulling to Star Trek Online!
RSP1 or RSP3 w/doff, never RSP2.. You just wasted a sweet spot on an Eng Boff.
Also, Dual A2B with a Commander Boff ship has got to be one of the better facepalm ideas I have seen since that player that put four Engineering Teams on his ship...Cause he didn't want to die. heh
I am no picking on you CapnShadow..I am trying to point out serious problems with your build(s).
Let me explain it. Two A2B equals ZERO Aux power 75% of the time. That means no power for Science skills and your Subsystem targeting is completely useless. A Recluse built around Science cannot be used as an A2B boat.
Whoever sold you that bag of beans stole your cow.
I take it you didnt even look at the ship did you, pretty sure its a vesta not a recluse.
Secondly only 10 seconds without Aux power isnt bad, if you time use of powers properly. A2B spam boats that dont require skill or a science ship running A2B timing everything out to get more uptime on your abilities.
I dont see why you cannot be bothered to click a simple link and look at it. Im not picking you either, but really look at things.
Also a second VESTA build... Bolded and Italicized so you dont miss that part...
Did you even read the first sentence? Clearly...I checked the build. I don't know anyone that would nerf their own Science by running not one, but two A2B.. You sir, are a class act hah.
You know Cryptic has Jumped the Proverbial Shark when they introduced Tractor Pulling to Star Trek Online!
Did you even read the first sentence? Clearly...I checked the build. I don't know anyone that would nerf their own Science by running not one, but two A2B.. You sir, are a class act hah.
Yet it is a game, and anyone can do whatever they want. I conistently do second in DPS in nearly every PUG, and conistently get 1st in every CEE. I do not PvP minus some Fed v Fed dabbling.
So i really dont see ANY problem with my builds, they do exactly what i want after some tuning and fiddling, and do average DPS thats far above the 1-1.5k most PUGs i have been in do.
My builds being NOT up to par with YOUR idea of good is actually now better than fine by me.
Inertia just means you can do Powerslides in you carrier!
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That's just because this game is so ridiculously easy. I am honestly not trying to TRIBBLE you off in any way. It's just sometimes (often lately) I see something crazy and I try to figure out the logic they were using behind the selections. I get you want to be the crazy science guy, but don't be the non science science guy. That's all.
You know Cryptic has Jumped the Proverbial Shark when they introduced Tractor Pulling to Star Trek Online!
That's just because this game is so ridiculously easy. I am honestly not trying to TRIBBLE you off in any way. It's just sometimes (often lately) I see something crazy and I try to figure out the logic they were using behind the selections. I get you want to be the crazy science guy, but don't be the non science science guy. That's all.
Thats the thing i dont use LOGIC, or a common sense, i pick one thing and i mean literally one thing, like say refracting tet dbb, and build all around that.
Or the Recluse herself going with an all nukara set up (that backfired on my protonic/dyson build THAT was a terrible and costly mistake)
Logic and common sense, i use on the ground where sometimes it matters.
But in space, i prefer shennanigans, i use ships that people balk at, make builds that are utterly hairbrained My science toon (yeah science) runs an all TORPEDO ODDY! It is about as useful as a shuttle in a cruiser fight and it still out DPSed a bunch of puggers.
I make builds for fun, i have tried uber serious builds, 3 technician+A2B+Marion+DEM on a TAC and it just wasnt any fun for me.
I prefer the hair brained bad ideas and making them at least more than halfway decent. The fact that people drink their haterade and then waltz into my threads and tell me im wrong just adds to my drive to make dumb things go. (not you in general, but others certainly)
I once made and all Turret Risian Vette that just went fast while firing away, no power to aux or shields, just skittles EVERYWHERE, now that was fun.
Inertia just means you can do Powerslides in you carrier!
I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
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At the moment she's equipped with fleet polaron DBBs with a couple turrets in the back but I'm looking to switch to antiprotons whenever I get around to doing Sphere of Influence with that character.
You will do more damage in the long run and it will allow you to solo a lot of otherwise harder stuff, unless you were planning on putting mines or torps in the rear.
It is through repetition that we learn our weakness.
A master with a stone is better than a novice with a sword.
Has damage got out of control?
This is the last thing I will post.
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
*Shennaginas is the word you are looking for Dahm
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My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
I am planning some serious shennanigans, possibly with my recluse and a tactical officer, and maybe an A2B Vesta.
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=ussspidercrusher11_0
But as for the OP, tactical science isnt a great idea. Unless you nab a science ship that you can slot more that 2, tac consoles and lt tac skills.
Like a Vesta for the pay option, the recon for 2 tac slots ens and lt., the Fleet science vessel retro os a good choice in fleet range with a lt cmdr.
Dont try to wedge a ship into the wrong area, pick a ship that is better suited to what you want to do.
Being a huge proponent of science shennanigans (or hi-jinks) the intrepid is great.
I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
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Also, Dual A2B with a Commander Boff ship has got to be one of the better facepalm ideas I have seen since that player that put four Engineering Teams on his ship...Cause he didn't want to die. heh
I am no picking on you CapnShadow..I am trying to point out serious problems with your build(s).
Let me explain it. Two A2B equals ZERO Aux power 75% of the time. That means no power for Science skills and your Subsystem targeting is completely useless. A Recluse built around Science cannot be used as an A2B boat.
Whoever sold you that bag of beans stole your cow.
I take it you didnt even look at the ship did you, pretty sure its a vesta not a recluse.
Secondly only 10 seconds without Aux power isnt bad, if you time use of powers properly. A2B spam boats that dont require skill or a science ship running A2B timing everything out to get more uptime on your abilities.
I dont see why you cannot be bothered to click a simple link and look at it. Im not picking you either, but really look at things.
Also a second VESTA build... Bolded and Italicized so you dont miss that part...
http://skillplanner.stoacademy.com/?build=ussspidercrusher11_0
Basically just different weapons and a few consoles.
Addition:: Stop telling people how wrong they are, especailly when you offer ZERO advie on changing things.
I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
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Yet it is a game, and anyone can do whatever they want. I conistently do second in DPS in nearly every PUG, and conistently get 1st in every CEE. I do not PvP minus some Fed v Fed dabbling.
So i really dont see ANY problem with my builds, they do exactly what i want after some tuning and fiddling, and do average DPS thats far above the 1-1.5k most PUGs i have been in do.
My builds being NOT up to par with YOUR idea of good is actually now better than fine by me.
I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Thats the thing i dont use LOGIC, or a common sense, i pick one thing and i mean literally one thing, like say refracting tet dbb, and build all around that.
Or the Recluse herself going with an all nukara set up (that backfired on my protonic/dyson build THAT was a terrible and costly mistake)
Logic and common sense, i use on the ground where sometimes it matters.
But in space, i prefer shennanigans, i use ships that people balk at, make builds that are utterly hairbrained My science toon (yeah science) runs an all TORPEDO ODDY! It is about as useful as a shuttle in a cruiser fight and it still out DPSed a bunch of puggers.
I make builds for fun, i have tried uber serious builds, 3 technician+A2B+Marion+DEM on a TAC and it just wasnt any fun for me.
I prefer the hair brained bad ideas and making them at least more than halfway decent. The fact that people drink their haterade and then waltz into my threads and tell me im wrong just adds to my drive to make dumb things go. (not you in general, but others certainly)
I once made and all Turret Risian Vette that just went fast while firing away, no power to aux or shields, just skittles EVERYWHERE, now that was fun.
I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
:P
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
I am NOT Charlie Sheen.
Just crazy and sleep deprived
I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
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So "yet?" is what your going for?
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
Maybe. But still, that man was just tacky about going nuts, im going to d it with style :cool:
I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
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