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If you could change 1 ship's Boff Layout what would it be?

oninotaki18oninotaki18 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
edited December 2013 in Federation Discussion
So the question is in the title. If you could change the Boff layout of one ship what would it be?

I wish I could change the boff layout of the Fleet Exploration Cruiser to the following:

Commander Tactical
Lt. Commander Engineering
Lt. Engineering
Lt. Science
Ensign Science or universal

That way I could have:
Attack Pattern Omega 3
Beam Over Load 3
Attack Pattern Beta 1
Torpedo Spread 1

Auxiliary to Structural 2
Reverse Shield Polarity
Engineering Team

Emergency Power to Weapons 2
Emergency Power To Shields 1

Transfer Shield Strength 2
Hazard Emitters 1

Tractor Beam

Not the most pimp set up, but the one that would let me enjoy a nice PVE adventure on a galaxy class starship the most while still feeling like it does the majority of what the Enterprise did in TNG. It just kills me that my dream layout for this ship can be done on the The Vet Ships, the Jem'Hadar Heavy Escort Carrier, and the dreadnought warbirds.

So How about you guys and gals? What Ship's bridge officer layout really bums you out, and what would you like to change it to?
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  • pwstolemynamepwstolemyname Member Posts: 1,417 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I predict that most replies will be regarding the Exploration Cruiser..

    I would like:

    Com: Enginear
    Lt.Com: Universal
    Lt: Science
    Lt: Tactical
    En: Universal

    The ship was always meant to be multi-role and its other limitations already prevent it from outperforming more dedicated ships.

    The limited number of tactical and science consoles.
    The horrible maneuverability.
    The inability to fit dual cannons.

    These are all the limitations it needs to not infringe upon the other cruiser types without forcing it to use 3 engineering ensign abilities as well.
  • emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Exploration Cruiser and fleet version, obviously:

    Cmdr: Eng
    Lt. Cmdr: Sci
    Lt. Cmdr Tac
    Lt: Universal
  • bladeofkahlessbladeofkahless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    emacsheadroom wrote: »
    Exploration Cruiser and fleet version, obviously:

    Cmdr: Eng
    Lt. Cmdr: Sci
    Lt. Cmdr Tac
    Lt: Universal

    This is pretty much what I suggested (in other threads) except the Lt Uni I had as Lt Eng.
    I would support either :D

    I feel this layout would make it as versatile as many of us feel it should be.

    That said, I'd rather see it happen as a new Galaxy variant on the Z-Store.
    People have already bought the Fleet Gal-R knowing what the layout was. To change it after the fact, I think, would be unethical.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Excelsior:

    Cmdr Tac
    Lt Cmdr Eng
    Lt Eng
    Lt Sci
    Ensign Uni

    OR

    Fleet Star Cruiser:

    Cmdr Eng
    Lt Cmdr Sci
    Lt Uni
    Lt Tac
    Ensign Sci

    Past that...I would be more delving into actual ship stats past just the BOFF layout.
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  • robdmcrobdmc Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I would change the gal-x layout to:

    Commander Eng
    Lt. Commander Eng
    Lt. Commander Tac
    Lt. Sci
  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    bladeofkahless wrote: »
    This is pretty much what I suggested (in other threads) except the Lt Uni I had as Lt Eng.
    I would support either :D

    I feel this layout would make it as versatile as many of us feel it should be.

    That said, I'd rather see it happen as a new Galaxy variant on the Z-Store.
    People have already bought the Fleet Gal-R knowing what the layout was. To change it after the fact, I think, would be unethical.

    If they simply changed the Ensign Engineer to a Universal Ensign slot on the Galaxy-R, how would that be unethical?
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Kumari

    Commander Tactical tt1, crf1, csv2, ap:b3
    Lieutenant Commander Science he1, tbr1, gw1
    Lieutenant Commander Engineer eptw1, aux2bat1, dem2
    Lieutenant Engineer epts1, aux2bat1

    I wish for a 5 tact 5 fore like that
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  • bladeofkahlessbladeofkahless Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    davidwford wrote: »
    If they simply changed the Ensign Engineer to a Universal Ensign slot on the Galaxy-R, how would that be unethical?

    That's a change of the Gal-R that I've been asking for, for a loooong time now.
    I don't believe... if that's the only change... that it would be unethical, as they could use the ship exactly the same way, including boff layout.

    I should have been more specific in my earlier post. My apologies.
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  • alexlancosalexlancos Member Posts: 42 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Defiant class. Obviously the ensign tac station sux for c-store ship that fas nothing more than the equivalent raptor (the free one at lvl 45 have same boff layout and INBUILT cloak not a console).
    simply change that ensign tac to universal, or do we ask for too much for 2000 Zen?
  • reginamala78reginamala78 Member Posts: 4,593 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Regent, swap the ensign to science. That turns the universal into something genuinely universal.
  • bunansabunansa Member Posts: 928 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Intrepid retrofit and Fleet

    A commander ltc and ens science slot on that ship drives me nuts

    WHAT ACTUAL SCIENCE DID VOYAGER DO REALLY??

    I would Prefer a set up to this

    Commander Science
    LtC Engineer
    Lt Universal
    Lt Tac
    Ens Universal

    the ship was shown as a truly dynamic capable of any situation ship but most importantly thanks to B'Ellana and Seven, an Engineering miracle
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  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    emacsheadroom wrote: »
    Exploration Cruiser and fleet version, obviously:

    Cmdr: Eng
    Lt. Cmdr: Sci
    Lt. Cmdr Tac
    Lt: Universal

    Would be perfect IMO.
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  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Fleet Excel:
    LTC Tac
    CMDR Eng
    LT Eng
    LT Sci
    Ensign Uni

    and thus no wasted slots :D
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  • breygornbreygorn Member Posts: 189 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    robdmc wrote: »
    I would change the gal-x layout to:

    Commander Eng
    Lt. Commander Eng
    Lt. Commander Tac
    Lt. Sci

    That'd be a nice change. although the following would be nice too.

    Cdr Eng
    LtC Tac
    Lt Eng
    Lt Sci
    Ens Uni
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  • livinrtblivinrtb Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Iwould like to see the fleet science vessel or nova class get a uni ltc
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  • kimmymkimmym Member Posts: 1,317 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I would turn a Galaxy model into a Sci Ody's stats.
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  • ghyudtghyudt Member Posts: 1,112 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Fleet galaxy. Give it a ltcom tac station instead of the lieutenant one. That's it. No universals, no commander tac, just a small upgrade.
  • comtedeloach2comtedeloach2 Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I would change all ships layout with one Commander Universal BOFF slot, called First Officer. In fact, i might even consider that any BOFF used as First Officer could train any skill of all three if they wanted to.

    Watch Riker in Nemisis, he is calling out command, rearranging shields, rolling ship, attack patterns, etc while they are in combat, so it would be canon to do so....
  • jagdhippiesjagdhippies Member Posts: 676 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    C store and fleet defiant (both versions of the prometheus also)
    I would make the ensign tac a universal.
    My carrier is more powerful than your gal-dread
  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Aside from the Galaxy -R, i would change the (fleet) Heavy Cruisers BOFF layout.

    I'd give it something like that:

    Tac: Lt.Cmdr.
    Eng: Cmdr.
    Sci: Lt.
    Universal: Lt.; Ens.

    It's a shame that ships like the Heavy Cruiser and Star Cruiser got ignored for so long
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,942 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    nothing. i want a Recluse boff build on a JHDC that is skinned into the Odyssey or Galaxy frame.
    I.E. a true federation carrier
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  • cralluscrallus Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    All T5:

    CDR Universal
    3 LCdr Universal

    T5 Refit:
    CDR Universal
    3 LCdr Universal
    Ens Universal

    Fleet T5:
    2x CDR Universal
    2X LCdr Universal
    2x Lt Universal

    No more BMCing that one ship has a better BOFF layout than another, it all depends on the BOFFs *YOU* choose to use.
  • overlapooverlapo Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Rather than replace the D'deridex retrofit's boff setup I would add the D'ridthau retrofit with:

    CM Eng
    LTC Eng
    LTC Tac
    Ens Sci
    Ens Uni

    Same console setup and with an extra tac console for the fleet version.
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  • captainoblivouscaptainoblivous Member Posts: 2,284 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Fleet excel. I'd make ensign eng slot a universal.
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  • kapla1755kapla1755 Member Posts: 1,249
    edited December 2013
    Section 31 Multi-Mission Reconnaissance Warship

    Intrepid bodystyle

    Tier: 5
    Type: Carrier/Science Vessel
    Hull: 27,900
    Standard Shields: 7,053 (Mk X)
    Shield Modifier: 1.35
    Weapons: Fore 4 Aft 2 Can equip dual cannons.
    Hangar Bays: 1
    Crew: 250
    Bridge Officers:
    XXXX, TRIBBLE, XX, XX, X
    Device Slots: 3
    Consoles:
    TRIBBLE, XXXX, TRIBBLE
    Turn Rate: 13
    Impulse Modifier: 0.15
    Inertia rating: 50
    Bonus Power: +5 weapons power, +10 auxiliary power

    Abilities:
    Sensor Analysis, Carrier Commands, Launch Drone fighters
    Special weapon - Heavy Transphasic Torpedo (Photon dmg level, 40% shield bypass, 8 sec reload, 90deg arc)

    I'd be a happy camper :D
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  • intrepid74656intrepid74656 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The Ar'kif.. That engy ensign should be uni.

    And all the hero ships should have that changed too.
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  • jagdhippiesjagdhippies Member Posts: 676 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    vetteguy904 wrote: »
    nothing. i want a Recluse boff build on a JHDC that is skinned into the Odyssey or Galaxy frame.
    I.E. a true federation carrier

    True, I recall a blueprint of a Galaxy class that showed the hanger bay as being a rather significant portion of the saucer section, definitely big enough to carry a few waves of runabouts.

    Of course I have no idea if those blue prints were "cannon" but it sure makes sense to me that a large exploration cruiser such as the Galaxy class (in both show and game) would have a large contingent of small craft for random exploration and other tasks. Those shuttle bay doors certainly looked big enough to launch runabouts and peregrines.
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  • fatman592fatman592 Member Posts: 1,207 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The Fleet Heavy Escort Carrier really needs that tactical ensign changed.

    Optimal:

    Cmdr Tac, Lt Tac, Lt Cmdr Eng, Lt Sci, Ens Uni

    I don't think that's asking too much. I'd totally buy a "make an ensign slot universal" token, for say 200 zen. But really, at fleet level it should come with at least one universal station.
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