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Disappointing news ...

jumpingjsjumpingjs Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited December 2013 in Ten Forward
But not totally surprising.


First of all, thank you PWE for releasing Neverwinter to steam.


Secondly ... and unfortunately,


FAR LESS many people are playing STO than Neverwinter. It is when I see figures like this that makes me feel a tad worried for STO's future, especially as many have been put off by season 8.
Hopefully I'll come back from my break; this break is fun; I play intellectual games.

I hope STO get's better ...
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  • starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Well Neverwinter is one of only two MMOs that are based on D&D. Neverwinter simulates the whole D&D experience far better than DDO with their Foundry system. The whole I can create an adventure that I can send my friends on experience. What surprises me is that Neverwinter apparently doing as well as you say. There are a ton of Fantasy MMOs so the market seems to be oversaturated with them while there are not many Science Fiction MMOs.
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    And DDO sucks.
  • catstarstocatstarsto Member Posts: 2,149 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    jumpingjs wrote: »
    But not totally surprising.


    First of all, thank you PWE for releasing Neverwinter to steam.


    Secondly ... and unfortunately,


    FAR LESS many people are playing STO than Neverwinter. It is when I see figures like this that makes me feel a tad worried for STO's future, especially as many have been put off by season 8.

    I dont know, i rather enjoyed this invasion planet. They better not ditch STO, ive put a fortune into this game already! My net personality is based off of STO, seconded by champs. Star Wars has cats, but not my traditional CatStar face =^.^=

    http://catstarsto.deviantart.com/art/Nick-Furry-389487046
  • dirlettiadirlettia Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    A lot of none euro/usd currency players probably switched to the steam version just so they can start playing without the 'taxes' imposed by PWE. The spike is really pretty much as expected especially since it only launched on Steam yesterday along with a special pack. Over time that will go into peaks and troughs like STO is now.

    Edit: take the STO graph back to feb 2012 and you will see what I mean.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    jumpingjs wrote: »
    But not totally surprising.


    First of all, thank you PWE for releasing Neverwinter to steam.


    Secondly ... and unfortunately,


    FAR LESS many people are playing STO than Neverwinter. It is when I see figures like this that makes me feel a tad worried for STO's future, especially as many have been put off by season 8.

    You're right, it isn't totally surprising. Because every game is like this.

    Around launch there is a massive spike of players who are playing with the new shiny for the first time. This is the peak.

    In a few months, the numbers will die down signifigantly. Due to a number of things such as burn-out, 'completing' everything and then moving on (content locusts), or discovering that the game is simply not for them, financial/time issues, etc. the numbers die off. This is a trough.

    After this, you see the NW forums say "Omg where has everyone gone? Is the game a failure!? Thanks for nothing, Cryptic!"

    But then you see that the numbers improve after the trough -- and you see the player population numbers stabilize. The same thing happened with STO... and yes, just about every other game.

    This is not doom. This is not a sign. This is the natural order of MMO (and other game) releases.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    And the vicious cycle will continue. :P
  • sfc#5932 sfc
    sfc#5932
         Member Posts: 992 Bug Hunter
    edited December 2013
    I'm not touching Neverwinter. Sorry.

    I will continue to play STO on Steam.
  • lincolninspacelincolninspace Member Posts: 1,843 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    dirlettia wrote: »
    A lot of none euro/usd currency players probably switched to the steam version just so they can start playing without the 'taxes' imposed by PWE. The spike is really pretty much as expected especially since it only launched on Steam yesterday along with a special pack. Over time that will go into peaks and troughs like STO is now.

    Edit: take the STO graph back to feb 2012 and you will see what I mean.

    Yes, Neverwinter is the new kid in town.

    As the story goes the STO team is keeping tight reigns on the purse strings so that this game remains profitable and will be around for some time to come.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    lincolninspace wrote: »
    Yes, Neverwinter is the new kid in town.

    As the story goes the STO team is keeping tight reigns on the purse strings so that this game remains profitable and will be around for some time to come.

    They still haven't given my my william ware theiss costumes and TOS hairdos.
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    As mentioned NW is the new kid on the block so it will be more popular now than at almost any point going forward. lets see what its population is like in 4 years.

    you also cant gauge the total population by steam. while you can assume that NW has a higher overall population (and fantasy games in general tend to attract a larger audience than sci-fi games), it's by no means a certainty.

    as for season 8, people complain and moan about everything. im seeing plenty of people playing, and the steam figures even showed it was a high pop that season 6 or 7. stop worrying by what people say on the forums. if we listened to them then the game died 4 years ago.

    last by not least, who cares what population NW actually has. 10 people or 10 million. its irrelevant to this game. D&D is a huge franchise in its own right anyway.
  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot
    thunderfoot#5163
         Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Far less people playing STO than NW overall? Or far less people logged into Steam playing STO than NW?

    Without the qualifier or some additional information the statement has no value. It is simply scaremongering.

    Look, I can do this as well. :D

    "I've noticed lately far more people are playing Candy Crush than are playing STO these days."

    "I'm concerned about the state of STO because I've seen a lot more of my coworkers playing Solitare on their computers than are playing STO."
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  • maximilianthevmaximilianthev Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    dunno if many of you have noticed the crash on launching posts but many and I do mean many people havn't been able to get onto STO since Season 8..not that the devs even care since they close moste of the forum posts about this problem since they figured out they cant fix it..so..that could be a reason why there seem less people online...
  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    thunderfoot006 wrote: »
    Far less people playing STO than NW overall? Or far less people logged into Steam playing STO than NW?

    Without the qualifier or some additional information the statement has no value. It is simply scaremongering.

    Look, I can do this as well. :D

    "I've noticed lately far more people are playing Candy Crush than are playing STO these days."

    "I'm concerned about the state of STO because I've seen a lot more of my coworkers playing Solitare on their computers than are playing STO."

    Apples and Oranges everyone! Let's compare them despite going no where every time!
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