OK, so let's get this party started. <rubs a disco ball> Since the ships have not yet been released, this thread is for those that will already claim it's OP'd with the TBR and Spatial charges..etc, etc, etc.
I was listening in on TeamSpeak with my fleet. They think the flight-deck-cruiser has a sucky boff layout, but the science ship could be surprisingly good.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
I was listening in on TeamSpeak with my fleet. They think the flight-deck-cruiser has a sucky boff layout, but the science ship could be surprisingly good.
Well the Lobi one, I'm awaiting for them to skale back the 1.45 shields but eh.. we'll see
Though I would say, the sci ship is the better ship. 5 sci-console lockbox ship? We've never had that before. Sure it lacks DHC use, and only 2 tac consoles, but DPS isn't always everything.
It's basically a dedicated carrier's BOFF layout (like the Vo'quv), just with more universal slots. Dare I say, we have a new sci ship that will give the Temporal Sci a MAJOR run for it's money.
I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
Yep theme a gorn using them since they aren't ever gonna git any gorn ships lol.
Dude, I had that exact idea yesterday. Dinosaur flying a dinosaur ship, lol.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
OK, so let's get this party started. <rubs a disco ball> Since the ships have not yet been released, this thread is for those that will already claim it's OP'd with the TBR and Spatial charges..etc, etc, etc.
<Grabs popcorn and peanuts and awaits replys>:D
FYI... I have changed the title of this thread to be less provocative.
Feel free to discuss your feedback on the actual performance of the ships or the published stats, but let's not stir up trouble.
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FYI... I have changed the title of this thread to be less provocative.
Feel free to discuss your feedback on the actual performance of the ships or the published stats, but let's not stir up trouble.
Respectfully, this thread was posted very differently, than the Avenger is OP thread or the Disenchanted Klingon thread. Read through both threads I just listed and the countless postings about Feds getting more then turning into a bash fest amongst posters and creating trouble, thusfar no post here has caused any grief, but the thread gets a name change and the others still remain, sad truly. In hindsight, I'll make sure to forward the trouble stirring threads so we can clean out the forums of attitude Both ships are amazing from the Voth series, this post is to encourage how one views the playability of them, their build etc, etc and etc.
I think one of the consoles that gives the voth ship an op feel is that Reactive Shield Amplifier. it is very powerful but it does have a damage cap of 100,000. sounds like a lot but trust me damage adds up quick fighting the borg let alone PvP. the aceton console is a hole other story. correct me if im wrong but from the testing ive done it look like it stacks with energy siphon. I was in hive elite today and hit the aceton mode and started leeching power off of about 10 borg ships.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Advanced_Scimitar_Systems
only 17,325 shield damage hit.... I mean if we could actually heal and apply shield power and % abilities resistances to this, then I wouldn't say this but, that voth console looks better in every way not only does it reflect damage but absorbs 100,000 of it.... wth
and the drone is basically a buffed version of the gorn console.... Honestly these two consoles need buffs...
gorn one needs more range or range of the damage increased.
Scimitar one needs to be heal able, regen able shields at the very least or a increase in absorbed damage...
The Voth Bastion Flight Deck Cruiser layout sucks.
The Lt. Commander Science slot should really be a universal, engineering or tactical.
In terms of console layout it also has 1 more tactical console than the Marauder or Corsairs which lends itself to more of a DPS role but yet it has a Lt. Commander Science station.
On to the turning rate, shall we? The turning on the Bastion is a horrible 6. The Marauder Patrol Cruiser which is a Flight Deck Cruiser has a turning of 7, the Fleet Corsair and the Corsair Retrofit has a turning of 8, so why not bump the Voth Bastion up to 7 or 8 or better yet give it Communication: Strategic Maneuvering.
Hangers... will we see frigate hangers as well like the Recluse did.
All in all the ship is a let down (in my opinion) considering it is a Lock box ship.
The 2 piece set bonus that you get from the Reactive Shield Amplifier and Aceton Field Generator is very poor. You have to essentially spend roughly 155 mil EC for both ships and use 2 console slots to get a standard cloak.
The Voth Bastion Flight Deck Cruiser layout sucks.
The Voth Bastion is an excellent ship. It's basically a Fleet Ambassador with more versatility and a hangar bay. If you don't like it, it's not because the ship is bad. It's because you're awful at using it.
The Voth Bastion is an excellent ship. It's basically a Fleet Ambassador with more versatility and a hangar bay. If you don't like it, it's not because the ship is bad. It's because you're awful at using it.
Yep.
I haven't got a Bastion myself, but i think it'd perform as good as the Marauder or the (Fleet) Corsair in the hands of someone that DOES know the meaning of Flight Deck cruiser.
The Voth Bastion is an excellent ship. It's basically a Fleet Ambassador with more versatility and a hangar bay. If you don't like it, it's not because the ship is bad. It's because you're awful at using it.
I haven't got a Bastion myself, but i think it'd perform as good as the Marauder or the (Fleet) Corsair in the hands of someone that DOES know the meaning of Flight Deck cruiser.
So please do enlighten me as to what you think the meaning of a Flight Deck Cruiser is? If it is supposed to be a versatile platform then the Lt. Commander station should be universal. But like I have mentioned in my previous post, this ship has 1 more tactical console over the other Flight Deck Cruisers which seems to lends itself more to a DPS role.
It's too bad you don't know how to act like an adult.
TRIBBLE-for-tat buddy.
I'm not the one who came out with the "you must be awful using it" comment.
I gave a few legitimate reasons as to why I think the Voth Bastion is garbage. MY OPINION, but I guess it's too much for people to have opinions in any MMO since trolls like yourself like to come out of the woodwork and reply with some lame comment like you did.
So really, who doesn't know how to act like an adult?
*knocks emacsheadroom's and medicnyc's heads together for being morons*
On-topic, with a Cdr Engi and Lt Uni I would envision the Bastion working fairly well using a weapons-booster build. Could possibly use single aux2batt like I use on my Avenger (see sig). Other than that, invest points into defensive sci skills, or possibly a crowd control power like gravity well, and run TT1 on the Ens Uni.
"Great War! / And I cannot take more! / Great tour! / I keep on marching on / I play the great score / There will be no encore / Great War! / The War to End All Wars"
— Sabaton, "Great War"
I'm not the one who came out with the "you must be awful using it" comment.
I gave a few legitimate reasons as to why I think the Voth Bastion is garbage. MY OPINION, but I guess it's too much for people to have opinions in any MMO since trolls like yourself like to come out of the woodwork and reply with some lame comment like you did.
So really, who doesn't know how to act like an adult?
Saying you're bad at using a ship is not childish. It's an observation. Saying someone should have been swallowed instead of conceived is an infantile response. I understand your hostility. Children lash out with insults when they're criticised.
I could turn the Bastion into a DPS powerhouse with double BFAW 2, Double Torp Spread 1 and a copy of Tactical Team. I could fill its Tac and two universal stations with three Superior Romulan Operatives and add all the universal consoles that boost crit chance. I could devote Science to pure healing with HE, TSS and PH. I could use DEM 3 in the Engineering station and two copies of EPTW (2 and 3) for maximum damage boost. I know this build is a murder machine because I use the exact same build on my Fleet Ambassador which is also a murder machine. Only the Fleet Ambassador doesn't have the advantage of a fighter bay.
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Well the Lobi one, I'm awaiting for them to skale back the 1.45 shields but eh.. we'll see
Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
Though I would say, the sci ship is the better ship. 5 sci-console lockbox ship? We've never had that before. Sure it lacks DHC use, and only 2 tac consoles, but DPS isn't always everything.
It's basically a dedicated carrier's BOFF layout (like the Vo'quv), just with more universal slots. Dare I say, we have a new sci ship that will give the Temporal Sci a MAJOR run for it's money.
Dude, I had that exact idea yesterday. Dinosaur flying a dinosaur ship, lol.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
FYI... I have changed the title of this thread to be less provocative.
Feel free to discuss your feedback on the actual performance of the ships or the published stats, but let's not stir up trouble.
Link: How to PM - Twitter @STOMod_Bluegeek
Respectfully, this thread was posted very differently, than the Avenger is OP thread or the Disenchanted Klingon thread. Read through both threads I just listed and the countless postings about Feds getting more then turning into a bash fest amongst posters and creating trouble, thusfar no post here has caused any grief, but the thread gets a name change and the others still remain, sad truly. In hindsight, I'll make sure to forward the trouble stirring threads so we can clean out the forums of attitude Both ships are amazing from the Voth series, this post is to encourage how one views the playability of them, their build etc, etc and etc.
Thanks for your time
MY FLEET:http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=498091
only 17,325 shield damage hit.... I mean if we could actually heal and apply shield power and % abilities resistances to this, then I wouldn't say this but, that voth console looks better in every way not only does it reflect damage but absorbs 100,000 of it.... wth
and the drone is basically a buffed version of the gorn console.... Honestly these two consoles need buffs...
gorn one needs more range or range of the damage increased.
Scimitar one needs to be heal able, regen able shields at the very least or a increase in absorbed damage...
The Lt. Commander Science slot should really be a universal, engineering or tactical.
In terms of console layout it also has 1 more tactical console than the Marauder or Corsairs which lends itself to more of a DPS role but yet it has a Lt. Commander Science station.
On to the turning rate, shall we? The turning on the Bastion is a horrible 6. The Marauder Patrol Cruiser which is a Flight Deck Cruiser has a turning of 7, the Fleet Corsair and the Corsair Retrofit has a turning of 8, so why not bump the Voth Bastion up to 7 or 8 or better yet give it Communication: Strategic Maneuvering.
Hangers... will we see frigate hangers as well like the Recluse did.
All in all the ship is a let down (in my opinion) considering it is a Lock box ship.
The 2 piece set bonus that you get from the Reactive Shield Amplifier and Aceton Field Generator is very poor. You have to essentially spend roughly 155 mil EC for both ships and use 2 console slots to get a standard cloak.
The Voth Bastion is an excellent ship. It's basically a Fleet Ambassador with more versatility and a hangar bay. If you don't like it, it's not because the ship is bad. It's because you're awful at using it.
Yep.
I haven't got a Bastion myself, but i think it'd perform as good as the Marauder or the (Fleet) Corsair in the hands of someone that DOES know the meaning of Flight Deck cruiser.
Yep! That must be it. Go troll another thread.
It's too bad your mother didn't swallow you.
It's too bad you don't know how to act like an adult.
So please do enlighten me as to what you think the meaning of a Flight Deck Cruiser is? If it is supposed to be a versatile platform then the Lt. Commander station should be universal. But like I have mentioned in my previous post, this ship has 1 more tactical console over the other Flight Deck Cruisers which seems to lends itself more to a DPS role.
TRIBBLE-for-tat buddy.
I'm not the one who came out with the "you must be awful using it" comment.
I gave a few legitimate reasons as to why I think the Voth Bastion is garbage. MY OPINION, but I guess it's too much for people to have opinions in any MMO since trolls like yourself like to come out of the woodwork and reply with some lame comment like you did.
So really, who doesn't know how to act like an adult?
On-topic, with a Cdr Engi and Lt Uni I would envision the Bastion working fairly well using a weapons-booster build. Could possibly use single aux2batt like I use on my Avenger (see sig). Other than that, invest points into defensive sci skills, or possibly a crowd control power like gravity well, and run TT1 on the Ens Uni.
— Sabaton, "Great War"
Check out https://unitedfederationofpla.net/s/
Saying you're bad at using a ship is not childish. It's an observation. Saying someone should have been swallowed instead of conceived is an infantile response. I understand your hostility. Children lash out with insults when they're criticised.
I could turn the Bastion into a DPS powerhouse with double BFAW 2, Double Torp Spread 1 and a copy of Tactical Team. I could fill its Tac and two universal stations with three Superior Romulan Operatives and add all the universal consoles that boost crit chance. I could devote Science to pure healing with HE, TSS and PH. I could use DEM 3 in the Engineering station and two copies of EPTW (2 and 3) for maximum damage boost. I know this build is a murder machine because I use the exact same build on my Fleet Ambassador which is also a murder machine. Only the Fleet Ambassador doesn't have the advantage of a fighter bay.