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howiebabey82howiebabey82 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited December 2013 in The Academy
ok the romulan leech console is it the same as the below Klingon console?
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ability:_Plasmonic_Leech
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  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I'm not sure what you mean by the below klingon console. The "romulan leech console" is identical as the one the kdf and feds use. The only difference is whether you obtain it from siding with the kdf and buying it off the 1000 zen ship it comes bundled with like the rest of the klingons do, or buy it for 15 million credits off the exchange like the feds do. I personally think the klingon route is tactically superior as once the zen ship with the leech console is bought, it can be claimed on all other kdf alts or romulans sided with the kdf at no additional cost. The feds and their rom allies are stuck blowing 15 mil an alt.
  • howiebabey82howiebabey82 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    ok cause the wording looked differently like the power went to all systems instead of just shields like i said i have the romulan one from a zen store ship i cat remember what ship
    but if i deal so much damage leech some of that power right back to my shields
  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    ok cause the wording looked differently like the power went to all systems instead of just shields like i said i have the romulan one from a zen store ship i cat remember what ship
    but if i deal so much damage leech some of that power right back to my shields


    Sounds like you are talking about the console from the Valdore C-store ship. People dont call it the "romulan leech console", you call it the Valdore console or call it by its proper name which is "Shield Absorptive Frequency Generator". The Valdore console, when you deal damage it has a chance to heal your shields. Heal your shields dont say leech to your shields, you dont want to confuse people. Take a look at the link below, is this the console you have?

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Console_-_Universal_-_Shield_Absorptive_Frequency_Generator


    Below is the Plasmonic Leech which you can claim from a Vandal Destroyer c-store ship if you are KDF or Rom-KDF. If you are a Fed or Rom-Fed you have to go to the exchange and find it there. It also drops from a lockbox, but i forget which one. If you look on the exchange you will also see that the box says Plasmonic Leech/Ionized Gas. That means when you buy it on a Fed or Rom-Fed and unpack the box you get a plasmonic leech. BUT if you buy the same item on the exchange on a KDF, or Rom-KDF you get a different console instead called Ionized Gas Sensor. The effect of the Plasmonic Leech, in case you didnt know is when you attack something it drains power and adds it to all your subsystems. The amount of drain you can get from the plasmonic leech console can be modified by flow capacitor skill points or flow capacitor consoles. With 9 bars in flow cap skills you are looking at an increase of about 15-16 power i think, to all subsystems...weapon power, shields, engine and aux.

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Plasmonic_Leech#Plasmonic_Leech
  • comtedeloach2comtedeloach2 Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    stonewbie wrote: »
    Sounds like you are talking about the console from the Valdore C-store ship. People dont call it the "romulan leech console", you call it the Valdore console or call it by its proper name which is "Shield Absorptive Frequency Generator". The Valdore console, when you deal damage it has a chance to heal your shields. Heal your shields dont say leech to your shields, you dont want to confuse people. Take a look at the link below, is this the console you have?

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Console_-_Universal_-_Shield_Absorptive_Frequency_Generator


    Below is the Plasmonic Leech which you can claim from a Vandal Destroyer c-store ship if you are KDF or Rom-KDF. If you are a Fed or Rom-Fed you have to go to the exchange and find it there. It also drops from a lockbox, but i forget which one. If you look on the exchange you will also see that the box says Plasmonic Leech/Ionized Gas. That means when you buy it on a Fed or Rom-Fed and unpack the box you get a plasmonic leech. BUT if you buy the same item on the exchange on a KDF, or Rom-KDF you get a different console instead called Ionized Gas Sensor. The effect of the Plasmonic Leech, in case you didnt know is when you attack something it drains power and adds it to all your subsystems. The amount of drain you can get from the plasmonic leech console can be modified by flow capacitor skill points or flow capacitor consoles. With 9 bars in flow cap skills you are looking at an increase of about 15-16 power i think, to all subsystems...weapon power, shields, engine and aux.

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Plasmonic_Leech#Plasmonic_Leech

    Do those consoles conflict?
  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The valdore console and the plasmonic leech console? no they dont conflict, they have completely different effects. The only thing worth mentioning is that the Valdore console is restricted to warbirds, making it a Romulan only item. Which is fine anyways because a rom can claim tier 1-4 ships of their allies, but a pure Fed or KDF cant even claim a tier 1 romulan ship. The plasmonic leech console you can put on any ship, probably even your shuttle since its a universal console.

    The plasmonic leech does conflict with the Maco shield buff. Or rather it gets overwritten by the Maco shield buff, at least thats what i've been able to gather from posts and my own observations. Plasmonic leech buff stacks on you when you attack the maco shield buff you will get when you get attack (chance on hit). When the maco buff goes away because you arent being shot at then the plasmonic leech buff icon shows up. Its been a while since i've played my science character, but i'm almost certain that energy siphon boff ability does stack with plasmonic leech.
  • comtedeloach2comtedeloach2 Member Posts: 499 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    stonewbie wrote: »
    The valdore console and the plasmonic leech console? no they dont conflict, they have completely different effects. The only thing worth mentioning is that the Valdore console is restricted to warbirds, making it a Romulan only item. Which is fine anyways because a rom can claim tier 1-4 ships of their allies, but a pure Fed or KDF cant even claim a tier 1 romulan ship. The plasmonic leech console you can put on any ship, probably even your shuttle since its a universal console.

    The plasmonic leech does conflict with the Maco shield buff. Or rather it gets overwritten by the Maco shield buff, at least thats what i've been able to gather from posts and my own observations. Plasmonic leech buff stacks on you when you attack the maco shield buff you will get when you get attack (chance on hit). When the maco buff goes away because you arent being shot at then the plasmonic leech buff icon shows up. Its been a while since i've played my science character, but i'm almost certain that energy siphon boff ability does stack with plasmonic leech.

    Maco/KHG or Maco/KHG adapter shields conflict w leech??
  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    maco/adapted khg, the one with power conduit link on the shield which the tooltip shows is a stacking power level buff.
  • howiebabey82howiebabey82 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    valdore console aka "Shield Absorptive it gives power directly to shields is it affected by flow capacitors too? s the difference is the valdore console gives power just to shields and leech console is power to all 4 systems?
  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    valdore console aka "Shield Absorptive it gives power directly to shields is it affected by flow capacitors too? s the difference is the valdore console gives power just to shields and leech console is power to all 4 systems?

    The Valdore console doesnt give power to your shields it heals your shield facings. I do know that the amount of damage you do affects the strength of the heal. I dont know what else affects it but doesnt matter. The heals you get from it are really strong. You could have no points in flow cap and 0 aux power and it doesnt matter. When that valdore console goes off and heals your shields it will still be a really strong shield heal.

    While in combat space like in orbit above Qonos or outside ESD do this. Hit U, click on your ship name and click on defense in the middle to expand it. See how it says fore shields, rear, right and left? that's how many hitpoints each shield facing has. My ship only has XII very rare weapons from rep and the exchange and only rare XI weapon consoles.

    The heals i get average about 1k, 2.5k sometimes as high as 4k. And the heal is applied to each shield facing. Remember the strength of the heal is dependent on how much damage you are doing when the console randomly procs (activates). And you dont just 1 shield heal for 1k and thats it for a few seconds. Usually you will see a lot...i've seen four 1k heals followed by four 2k heals and a bunch of 500-600 heals all at the same time. The heals are enough to bring a empty shield facing up to full in less then a second. That is of course...if it procs when you need it. If you have the console go out and shoot stuff with it. Hopefully you have scrolling combat text up by default. When you see white text scrolling up from your ship? that is a shield heal. When you see yellow text scrolling up from your ship? that is a hull heal. Red text will of course be damage. Pay attention to the amount, and magnitude of the white text coming up from your ship. You can test it out right now just go get in a fight and hit your shield and hull healing abilities once you've taken some damage. Now pay attention the next time in combat and watch for any shield healing that happens when you havent activated a shield heal of your own and nobody cast a shield heal ability on you.
  • howiebabey82howiebabey82 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    elaborate on the leech console the valdore is amazing but the Klingon leech console give me more info plz
    im sold on the valdore console but what about the klingon leech console how well does it stack up ?
    stonewbie wrote: »
    The Valdore console doesnt give power to your shields it heals your shield facings. I do know that the amount of damage you do affects the strength of the heal. I dont know what else affects it but doesnt matter. The heals you get from it are really strong. You could have no points in flow cap and 0 aux power and it doesnt matter. When that valdore console goes off and heals your shields it will still be a really strong shield heal.

    While in combat space like in orbit above Qonos or outside ESD do this. Hit U, click on your ship name and click on defense in the middle to expand it. See how it says fore shields, rear, right and left? that's how many hitpoints each shield facing has. My ship only has XII very rare weapons from rep and the exchange and only rare XI weapon consoles.

    The heals i get average about 1k, 2.5k sometimes as high as 4k. And the heal is applied to each shield facing. Remember the strength of the heal is dependent on how much damage you are doing when the console randomly procs (activates). And you dont just 1 shield heal for 1k and thats it for a few seconds. Usually you will see a lot...i've seen four 1k heals followed by four 2k heals and a bunch of 500-600 heals all at the same time. The heals are enough to bring a empty shield facing up to full in less then a second. That is of course...if it procs when you need it. If you have the console go out and shoot stuff with it. Hopefully you have scrolling combat text up by default. When you see white text scrolling up from your ship? that is a shield heal. When you see yellow text scrolling up from your ship? that is a hull heal. Red text will of course be damage. Pay attention to the amount, and magnitude of the white text coming up from your ship. You can test it out right now just go get in a fight and hit your shield and hull healing abilities once you've taken some damage. Now pay attention the next time in combat and watch for any shield healing that happens when you havent activated a shield heal of your own and nobody cast a shield heal ability on you.
  • stonewbiestonewbie Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Plasmonic Leech console

    With 6-9 points in flow capacitors you drain 15-16 power from that target as long as you attack it and you add the power to your own. That's an extra 16 power to weapons, 16 power to shields, 16 power to engines and 16 power to aux. That extra power to your weapon subsystems gives you more dps, more power to shields gives you higher shield damage resist and regen, more power to engines gives you more defense, turn rate and speed and more aux power. You can further increase its effectiveness by adding in flow cap consoles, but i dont use flow cap consoles so i couldnt tell you how much each console increases power by.
  • maliusnightmaliusnight Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    The Valdor consoles gives you a 2.5% chance per attack to heal you for 200% of the damage dealt, the best addition to any Scimitar build in the game.

    The leech console provides a multi-sub system power buff drained from your opponent based upon how long you shoot at said opponent and if your speced into power draining skill. As a note it must be energy weapons, not just torps. It takes sometime build up and it doesn't break caps. It is an awesome console and basically every build in existence in game will benefit from it.
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  • howiebabey82howiebabey82 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    what if i don't have any points into flow capacitors would the power i get back be worth it?
  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    patrickngo wrote: »
    If you like Leech, thank the KDF players for playtesting it for you over the course of three years to get the bugs and OP ironed out of it so that by the time your fed got it, it worked like it was supposed to.

    "Got the OP" out of it? Are you serious? The thing gives you 60 subsystem power on a BAD day. That changes the entire dynamics of the game. Romulans had their superior traits, their powerful singularity power and their powerful battle cloak balanced against having 40 less power than the Feds! Equipping the leech on my scimitar more than makes up the difference and coupled with the valdore console makes her far and away superior to anything a Fed or Klink could possibly achieve. But that is a argument for another day...
    what if i don't have any points into flow capacitors would the power i get back be worth it?

    Nope. You can get some flow capacitor skill off a deflector or science console, but not nearly enough to make the leech worth it. If you can't respec into maxing out flow capacitors and don't have the money to get a respec token, you might be better off just running the resilient maco shield for the poor mans power effect and spare yourself some money and a console slot.
  • atlmyklatlmykl Member Posts: 305 Arc User1
    edited December 2013
    what if i don't have any points into flow capacitors would the power i get back be worth it?

    Get and respec into flow capacitors. It is that good. Power is POWER in this game. You are taking 60-90 points of power from your target and using it against him. If it only did one or the other at half of those numbers it would still be a must have.
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  • howiebabey82howiebabey82 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    everyone has an opinion and im use to being judged i did what makes sense to me and my builds are working for me i did what makes sense so would it be pointless to get this leech console? and laugh all u want but i do fine in stf and thas what i enjoy doing so would it be pointless to get the console?
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  • howiebabey82howiebabey82 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    my valdore console does great and flow caps have no points but again i don't do pvp just pve
    i think i mite get it i use falchion with 4 fleet dual heavy cans, rom torps 3 purple projectile duty officers my fed toon ill be fleet using beam arrays i guess ill give it a try on my fed toon
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