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There Will Be No Fleet...

torvinecho25torvinecho25 Member Posts: 49 Arc User
edited December 2013 in Federation Discussion
Considering I have to make this statement at *least* twice a day in the forums and four or five times in game chat, I figured I would post it up here for all players (the newbies and the stubborn vets alike) for all to see and reference.

THERE WILL BE NO Fleet Odyssey, NO Fleet Vesta, NO Fleet Kumari, NO Fleet Bortas, and NO Fleet Scimitar.

Each of these ships are already fleet level (w/ higher shield and hull cap, unique skins/costumes, and 10 console slots). There will be no "free" Fleet versions (aside from the Odyssey Star Cruiser/Bortas Battle Cruiser). Stop posting suggestions/requests for these ships. If you want them so badly, suck it up and spend the money for them like the rest of us have.

Carry on, cheers to all.
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  • dirlettiadirlettia Member Posts: 1,632 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I'll take that as a 'maybe next year' then! ^.^
    Still waiting to be able to use forum titles
  • timezargtimezarg Member Posts: 1,268
    edited December 2013
    I'll agree on the Bortas'qu. It's a Klingon ship, and Cryptic doesn't like bothering itself with the KDF all that often (though I do appreciate the flanking for BoPs that's coming up). The others. . .it's only a matter of time. They're Federation/Romulan ships, and Cryptic won't be able to resist the siren call that emanates from the wallets of players who spend obscene amounts of money on this game. They'll 'improve' them somehow, eventually. Just you wait.
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  • red01999red01999 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    skollulfr wrote: »
    fleet oddy, 200000fc
    you where saying?

    That's the standard Odyssey, which is to say the Odyssey Star Cruiser, which is to say the Anniversary Odyssey.

    It has no universal ensign, special consoles, or tenth console slot, and is hard-coded to be similar to a gimped version of the science variant. It also does not have Sensor Analysis.

    While this is a decent option for those in love with the Odyssey and unable to afford the "real" thing, it's of dubious value to just about everyone else, and it's arguable the effort that went into amassing those fleet credits would be better awarded grinding dil for the three-pack.

    In other words, it's basically not any better than most of the other T5 ships, including the other pseudo-fleet ships (e.g. Heavy Cruiser Retrofit) which are also purchasable for 200K FC.
  • matchstick606matchstick606 Member Posts: 233 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    skollulfr wrote: »
    fleet oddy, 200000fc
    you where saying?

    thats not a fleet ship, like the obelisk that can be unlocked in the in the fleet spire this oddy is the low end version that was handed out for free. so no its not a fleet ship at all.
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  • iconiansiconians Member Posts: 6,987 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Not to mention there will be no Fleet Steamrunner. Since the Blockade Runner Escort Retrofit already comes as Fleet-quality.

    And of course all 'jackpot' lockbox ships and lobi ships are Fleet-quality as well.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    skollulfr wrote: »
    you where saying?
    Yes, he was saying that.
    torvinecho25 wrote: »
    Considering I have to make this statement at *least* twice a day in the forums and four or five times in game chat, I figured I would post it up here for all players (the newbies and the stubborn vets alike) for all to see and reference.

    THERE WILL BE NO Fleet Odyssey, NO Fleet Vesta, NO Fleet Kumari, NO Fleet Bortas, and NO Fleet Scimitar.

    Each of these ships are already fleet level (w/ higher shield and hull cap, unique skins/costumes, and 10 console slots). There will be no "free" Fleet versions (aside from the Odyssey Star Cruiser/Bortas Battle Cruiser). Stop posting suggestions/requests for these ships. If you want them so badly, suck it up and spend the money for them like the rest of us have.

    Carry on, cheers to all.
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  • ufpterrellufpterrell Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I would however love to see a vesta in the fleet material :). Love it on my Avenger :p
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  • svindal777svindal777 Member Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Fleet Kumari with 6 tac consoles and 4 tac boffs.
    Well excuse me for having enormous flaws that I don't work on.
  • davidwforddavidwford Member Posts: 1,836 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    svindal777 wrote: »
    Fleet Kumari with 6 tac consoles and 4 tac boffs.

    Keep dreaming, cause that is not likely to happen save for a major overhaul of the game.

    Why? No ship had 5 consoles way back when the game launched. 5 Tac/Eng/Sci ships didn't even occur until the Fleet variants came along (T6 ships, in effect, but the T6 argument is a different discussion altogether).
  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    davidwford wrote: »
    Keep dreaming, cause that is not likely to happen save for a major overhaul of the game.

    Why? No ship had 5 consoles way back when the game launched. 5 Tac/Eng/Sci ships didn't even occur until the Fleet variants came along (T6 ships, in effect, but the T6 argument is a different discussion altogether).

    Actually, 5 console ships didn't happen until the Odyssey and Bortas. Fleet ships happened later.

    The engy Ody and Bortas both had 5 engineering tac consoles, and the tactical Bortas was the first ship with 5 tactical consoles.

    First sci ship with 5 sci consoles was the fleet Intrepid (maybe other fleet sci ships) I believe when the fleet system was released.
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  • paxdawnpaxdawn Member Posts: 767 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    torvinecho25 wrote: »
    Considering I have to make this statement at *least* twice a day in the forums and four or five times in game chat, I figured I would post it up here for all players (the newbies and the stubborn vets alike) for all to see and reference.

    THERE WILL BE NO Fleet Odyssey, NO Fleet Vesta, NO Fleet Kumari, NO Fleet Bortas, and NO Fleet Scimitar.

    Each of these ships are already fleet level (w/ higher shield and hull cap, unique skins/costumes, and 10 console slots). There will be no "free" Fleet versions (aside from the Odyssey Star Cruiser/Bortas Battle Cruiser). Stop posting suggestions/requests for these ships. If you want them so badly, suck it up and spend the money for them like the rest of us have.

    Carry on, cheers to all.

    Umm, do you read even know what you are talking about? There is an odyssey fleet version different from the cstore version.

    You should bring down a tone a little bit since your claiming your sick and tired and yet your facts are not true and of course your not the official STO account to say these as facts.
  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I dont care what you say.

    You are not a dev, or anyone important. So they may buckle and provide the variants with Fleet versions that have 10% more hull and 10% more shield modifier.

    You dont know and you cant say for sure. So deal with it.

    We can ask, you can scream no alll day long and it wont mean boo, until a dev comes through and says it, and even then they still may backflip and do it anyway.

    So *inserts fingers in ears* NANANANANANANANA
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  • haldan1968haldan1968 Member Posts: 80 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    davidwford wrote: »
    Keep dreaming, cause that is not likely to happen save for a major overhaul of the game.

    Why? No ship had 5 consoles way back when the game launched. 5 Tac/Eng/Sci ships didn't even occur until the Fleet variants came along (T6 ships, in effect, but the T6 argument is a different discussion altogether).

    I am pretty sure he was joking. :cool:
  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    paxdawn wrote: »
    Umm, do you read even know what you are talking about? There is an odyssey fleet version different from the cstore version.

    You should bring down a tone a little bit since your claiming your sick and tired and yet your facts are not true and of course your not the official STO account to say these as facts.

    And yet it's called the Odyssey STAR Cruiser. Not Odyssey FLEET Cruiser. Hm... Oh, and the C-store versions come with Material 6, which is the same skin that the Odyssey Star Cruiser in the shipyard uses. Just sayin...
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  • bunansabunansa Member Posts: 928 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Actually since the rumor mill of increasing to Admiral level (60) still floats around and branflakes never denied the rumor still

    anything is possible, if we did infact go to 60 I could easily see cryptic giving us fleet versions of multiple ships that didn't have fleet versions before

    Spire is giving us some fleet versions of ships people didn't consider.....


    but since the OP has a crystal ball and forsaw dinosaurs coming as well...please tell us what other things are in STO future, id like to know how much zen I need to start saving up
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    paxdawn wrote: »
    Umm, do you read even know what you are talking about? There is an odyssey fleet version different from the cstore version.

    You should bring down a tone a little bit since your claiming your sick and tired and yet your facts are not true and of course your not the official STO account to say these as facts.

    umm do you realize that "fleet" odyssey was actually the 2 year gift give away. It's not a fleet ship.

    I got that one for free. Nice try, and carry on.
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  • torvinecho25torvinecho25 Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    paxdawn wrote: »
    Umm, do you read even know what you are talking about? There is an odyssey fleet version different from the cstore version.

    You should bring down a tone a little bit since your claiming your sick and tired and yet your facts are not true and of course your not the official STO account to say these as facts.

    The only one who doesn't know what they are talking about here is you, my friend. Drop the attitude and look up your facts before you make arrogant statements like the above.

    The fleet available Odyssey-class, the Odyssey Star Cruiser, is a fleet refit (available for 200,000 fleet credits), not a fleet retrofit. It is a 9 console ship, without the +10% buffs of most fleet ships. The C-store Odysseys, however, are 10 console varients, and have the extra hull/shields built in.

    C-store Odysseys are fleet level vessels, the Odyssey Star Cruiser is NOT (I repeat, NOT) a fleet-level vessel.

    If you want to continue this debate, can I please direct you to www.stowiki.org so you can research your facts? Otherwise, I accept your apology and I forgive you.
  • tinkerstormtinkerstorm Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    paxdawn wrote: »
    Umm, do you read even know what you are talking about? There is an odyssey fleet version different from the cstore version.

    You should bring down a tone a little bit since your claiming your sick and tired and yet your facts are not true and of course your not the official STO account to say these as facts.
    Oh, the irony!
  • mondoidmondoid Member Posts: 305 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    To the OP, if you're not a dev or nameplate isn't purple or yellow, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU SAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • robos8robos8 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    There is a little thing... why I am the only one (I think) with a tact odyssey ... with fleet material and patterns (but not the windows)?

    Ah... and a Galaxy X with fleet material also! A gift from cryptic?
  • bones1970bones1970 Member Posts: 953 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    [troll on] What about a fleet JHAS ?? I need some better shields and hull. [/troll off]
  • thegalaxy31thegalaxy31 Member Posts: 1,211 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    There are people who want Fleet versions of top-level C-Store ships that are as good as Fleet ships? Um. That's a really bad idea.
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    thegalaxy31 wrote: »
    There are people who want Fleet versions of top-level C-Store ships that are as good as Fleet ships? Um. That's a really bad idea.

    Ironically there are many fleet level C-store ships already in game. It's just some people don't seem to get it.
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  • coffeemikecoffeemike Member Posts: 942 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    Ok, so with a base hull of 27,900, 10 consoles, & a shield modifier of 1.35 on the Vesta Class and you add the usual 10%:

    Hull: 30,690
    Shields: 1.48
    Consoles: 11

    That would be a NO vote from me. The ship is at Fleet level as is. The Vesta Class is perfect in the 3 pack except the low hull, which is fine. You can't be the UBERSHIP or else it's gonna get boring.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    coffeemike wrote: »
    Ok, so with a base hull of 27,900, 10 consoles, & a shield modifier of 1.35 on the Vesta Class and you add the usual 10%:

    Hull: 30,690
    Shields: 1.48
    Consoles: 11

    That would be a NO vote from me. The ship is at Fleet level as is. The Vesta Class is perfect in the 3 pack except the low hull, which is fine. You can't be the UBERSHIP or else it's gonna get boring.

    *chuckles* I remember when the Vesta first came out. People were damn nearly screaming it felt like for the Vesta to get buffed. Their reasoning being that because it was 'obviously' such an uber ship in the Destiny novels, then 'obviously' it should be an uber ship in the game.

    People especially wanted a boost to the hull back then as well, and other stuff.
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  • coffeemikecoffeemike Member Posts: 942 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    mimey2 wrote: »
    *chuckles* I remember when the Vesta first came out. People were damn nearly screaming it felt like for the Vesta to get buffed. Their reasoning being that because it was 'obviously' such an uber ship in the Destiny novels, then 'obviously' it should be an uber ship in the game.

    People especially wanted a boost to the hull back then as well, and other stuff.

    I remember that as well... I thought & said 'get your Hull Hit Points together and learn how to deal with it'
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  • torvinecho25torvinecho25 Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    capnshadow27 wrote: »
    I dont care what you say.

    You are not a dev, or anyone important. So they may buckle and provide the variants with Fleet versions that have 10% more hull and 10% more shield modifier.

    You dont know and you cant say for sure. So deal with it.

    We can ask, you can scream no alll day long and it wont mean boo, until a dev comes through and says it, and even then they still may backflip and do it anyway.

    So *inserts fingers in ears* NANANANANANANANA

    Right.

    Devs have already come through and said it.

    You were saying?
  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    torvinecho25 wrote: »
    Right.

    Devs have already come through and said it.

    You were saying?

    Link or did'nt happen.

    Resumes NANANANANA'ing.......
    Inertia just means you can do Powerslides in you carrier!
    I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    coffeemike wrote: »
    I remember that as well... I thought & said 'get your Hull Hit Points together and learn how to deal with it'

    Indeed. I mean, really looking at the stats, they aren't all the bad compared to similar level sci ships. I remember a bunch of people saying that because of how big the ship was (it is roughly cruiser size, that is true), it deserved to have cruiser, or near cruiser-level hull.
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    pwlaughingtrendy wrote:
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
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