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Art decision fridge logic in Avenger
starswordc
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First, a definition. We of TV Tropes have a term called fridge logic, defined as something you don't realize didn't make sense until a few minutes after you watched the show (e.g. when you're looking in the fridge).
Now, the subject of the thread. Don't get me wrong, I love my Fleet Avenger to death, but some fridge logic hit me about it recently. Namely, what's the point of putting windows on the inside of a dual neck?
Now, the subject of the thread. Don't get me wrong, I love my Fleet Avenger to death, but some fridge logic hit me about it recently. Namely, what's the point of putting windows on the inside of a dual neck?
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just go with it
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fair enough i guess, still no excuse for the rest of the rather dumb design choices.
So they can wave to the neighbours across the street, so to speak? Most high rise buildings have windows that face another monolithic building with more windows in it, I guess people sometimes just like to look out side, no matter what the view is once in a while.
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the reasoning for the warp engines on pylons was because they are very powerful and potentially dangerous, so they put as much distance as possible between them and the habitable hull.
Obviously your 24th century starship architects have a sense of fun. Perhaps it was for peeping toms or for the crew to moon one another from the comfort of their quarters. Imagine if it caused a scenario like in the film Rear window!
Parallels: my second mission for Fed aligned Romulans.
For crew comfort all cabins have an 'outside' view. Made as a basic requirement for equality so now all of them have a window. Even if that window is going to face a bulkhead. So bureaucracy in action.
Originally Posted by pwlaughingtrendy
Network engineers are not ship designers.
Nor should they be. Their ships would look weird.
In Star Wars, windows are a form of *TranspariSteel, just as durable as the Hull.
I also remember Picard saying (In First Contact) something about the "windows" not actually being there, that it is just a force field barrier.
I'm going to stop you right there.
Transparisteel yes, NOT as durable as hull. More durable than glass very much so but wont stop a blast.
First contact, they where not in a section that had windows. I'm not sure what the section was but that panel slid back revealing a force field in place of glass.
You will also note windows are often shown in crew quarters and ten forward. With an either extremely thick peice of glass or a weird double pane design(also quite thick each piece would be). For a ship to have no actual windows and be running force fields only would be disasterous, one power hiccup and there goes the crew......
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Yeah I was just thinking of a power blip taking out the whole crew, was thinking they'd be triple/quadruple backups for "Window Force Fields" if they existed shipwide...
But I guess only certain observation/viewing sections would have that Force Field sheilding.
Point taken.
In Star Trek the "windows" are actually made of transparent aluminum.
Commanding Officer: Captain Pyotr Ramonovich Amosov
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I always saw it as this. Gives it sort of a "Flying City" feel. I kind of like it actually.
A couple variants of the HEC have windows on the inside of the dual hull facing the other hull. The atrox has tons of windows facing walls of the ship. The underside of the JDHC actually has an overhang over a row of windows that serves no purpose aside from looking like a skirt. The defiant has a horseshoe shaped row of windows on the underside that face inward.
Not really sure who's making these art decisions.
Yup.
That's exactly my take, as well - looking across the street.
I fly an Oddy, and in my mind, the windows in the dual neck are mainly science/engineering labs. The crew quarters are all up in the Chevron, which can separate whenever I need cannon fodd- um, whenever I need to get the civilians to safety.
Another possibility is that since there was some kind of bulkhead lowered that this was a damaged section of the ship and it was lowered to "counter" a window that had been blown out. Consumes less power than to keep a forcefield running all the time.:)
Also earlier in the movie we can see Picard standing in his ready room and see Riker's reflection in the window as he comes in.