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organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
I have posted it in the Academy section, but maybe some more experienced players would agree to my wish.

I would love to have the option to change Zen or Dilithium into Credits for the Exchange.

How do other players feel about that?
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  • thecosmic1thecosmic1 Member Posts: 9,365 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    You can change Zen into ECs by simply buying something like Lockbox Keys and selling them on the Exchange. You buy the Key for 125 Zen and sell it for around 1.5 million ECs.

    You can do the same with EV Suites, the special BOFFs, and many other C-Store items that can be sold on the Exchange.
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  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    if i can do it the other way as well then yes please however it will never happen as cryptic can't make money out of it

    the only reason the dil exchange exists is because us selling ZEN usually means we've bought it from them thus they make money out of it
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  • mattimeo97mattimeo97 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    adamkafei wrote: »
    if i can do it the other way as well then yes please however it will never happen as cryptic can't make money out of it

    the only reason the dil exchange exists is because us selling ZEN usually means we've bought it from them thus they make money out of it

    Buy contraband for ECs. Turn in contraband and obtain dilithium. Refine dilithium and exchange for Zen.

    Cryptic makes money, you turn ECs into Zen.
  • chikahirochikahiro Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I'll echo everyone else: there's already ways to do it, any likely more for savvy players.

    Find the items in the Z-Store that can be sold to other players. Lockboxes, Fleet Modules, etc. You can sell those for a nice amount on the Exchange. You can also earn or buy Dilithium (with Zen) to buy Common and Uncommon Unreplicatable Materials to sell on the Exchange. Duty Officers can be obtained for free from Starfleet Academy and Klingon Academy, then sold on the Exchange.

    Its actually a very nice system. Players with time can earn and buy things to sell to folks with money will want.

    I will note, however, that Silver/Free players do have a 10 million Energy Credit cap on them. Earning 500 Zen will let you buy the EC Cap Increase from the store, letting you go from 10 million to 1 billion. So, if you're a free player? I'd make that a short-term goal.

    The Dilithium Exchange is your friend, and will be a valuable asset no matter how you decide to go about things. Remember - there are things in-game that require Dilithium to purchase!

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  • chikahirochikahiro Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    http://samonmaui.blogspot.com/2012/10/sto-buying-zen-with-energy-credits.html

    If you've got a spreadsheet, you can make your own workbook to figure stuff out, but this is a rough idea.

    edit: And updated due to being told about the exchange bug. But, hey, it makes things better! :D

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  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I have posted it in the Academy section, but maybe some more experienced players would agree to my wish.

    I would love to have the option to change Zen or Dilithium into Credits for the Exchange.

    That would certainly put another huge obstacle in the path of the gold sellers. I wonder what it would do to the layers of abstraction PWE needs to keep lockboxes from legally becoming gambling. If it worked in reverse, so you could convert EC into Zen, that would be very bad for them legally.
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  • chikahirochikahiro Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    syberghost wrote: »
    That would certainly put another huge obstacle in the path of the gold sellers. I wonder what it would do to the layers of abstraction PWE needs to keep lockboxes from legally becoming gambling. If it worked in reverse, so you could convert EC into Zen, that would be very bad for them legally.

    Well, I think turning Zen into money would be the kicker. Once the money goes it, it doesn't come back out, and that's what would be needed for real scrutinization, no?

    That said, I'm sure the laws are interesting, so no telling. One would assume, however, they've already had lawyers go over all this.

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  • joynesboyzjoynesboyz Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    What i want is the option to change EC to dilithium, it could work, I hope someone agrees. :D
  • rylanadionysisrylanadionysis Member Posts: 3,359 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    joynesboyz wrote: »
    What i want is the option to change EC to dilithium, it could work, I hope someone agrees. :D

    Purchase Contraband with EC (can also get from a doff mission, but you specifically said EC)

    Turn contraband into dilithium via Security Officer duty mission

    Refine

    Profit?

    I am also 99 percent sure this is the exact reason (this chain of events) that the refine cap exists. Contraband is candy to the KDF. I literally can get over 50 a day if I half try. Thats 20,000 raw dilithium
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  • mll623mll623 Member Posts: 135 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    That's why I have 4 toons sitting in ESD and doing nothing else - I get the contraband, send it to them, refine it, and then use the dilithium for whatever I want. I can get 48000 a day considering I have 2 toons I actually play.
  • johnny111971johnny111971 Member Posts: 1,300 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Although I agree with every suggestion on how to earn Dilithium... I think the OP has a point, of being able to purchase refined dilithium for EC.

    Similar as the Dil to Zen exchange. It would be player controlled.

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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I have posted it in the Academy section, but maybe some more experienced players would agree to my wish.

    I would love to have the option to change Zen or Dilithium into Credits for the Exchange.

    How do other players feel about that?

    as has been mentioned in other replies there are certain ways to do this though they tend to be a bit drawn out and long winded.
    in my own opinion zen and dilithium are far too valuable to convert into ec by any means.
    sure convert zen to dil or dil to zen no problem they are both currencies that are quite hard to get hold of without spending cash or working very hard in the game to earn them.
    energy credits on the other hand are so easy to come by with very little effort that they are worth next to nothing.
    you only need to play a few games of one of the many high earn ec games from the foundery and you will have two million ec in no time flat.
    or get some easily obtained items that can be picked up freely like lockboxes or crafting metirials that seem to go for fairly high prices sometimes its shocking how much ec you can make in a very short while doing that.
    i know some players sell items from the c-store for ec on the exchange and if that is what they want to do then fine but i would never buy anything from there just to sell it for ec myself zen is far too precious to me to waste it like that.

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  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Purchase Contraband with EC (can also get from a doff mission, but you specifically said EC)

    Turn contraband into dilithium via Security Officer duty mission

    Refine

    Profit?

    I am also 99 percent sure this is the exact reason (this chain of events) that the refine cap exists. Contraband is candy to the KDF. I literally can get over 50 a day if I half try. Thats 20,000 raw dilithium

    It's basically a bribe to play KDF.
  • moshicmoshic Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I have posted it in the Academy section, but maybe some more experienced players would agree to my wish.

    I would love to have the option to change Zen or Dilithium into Credits for the Exchange.

    How do other players feel about that?
    I think half the repliers actually read. He wants to turn ZEN into EC, not EC into dil or whatever. Probably the fastest route is via keys...
  • crusader2007crusader2007 Member Posts: 1,883 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    moshic wrote: »
    I think half the repliers actually read. He wants to turn ZEN into EC, not EC into dil or whatever. Probably the fastest route is via keys...

    Specially when the cost of keys are higher....just like they are getting now...not a record but to "sell high" is a ferengui's best strategy :D
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  • bobbydazlersbobbydazlers Member Posts: 4,534 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I have posted it in the Academy section, but maybe some more experienced players would agree to my wish.

    I would love to have the option to change Zen or Dilithium into Credits for the Exchange.

    How do other players feel about that?

    I always fail to see the logic in turning something that often costs real money into ec that is so easy to obtain just by recycling unwanted drop items or selling them on the exchange.
    and when I say drop items I include items that you get from doff missions.

    when I was first started repping my romulan he had hardly any ec but I did all the reps with him, mostly spending ec replicating required items and buying them from venders.
    now is t5 in all reps and he has about 10mil in his pocked and about another 10 mil in the account shared bank.
    all gained from recycling and selling unwanted drops.
    that's without even trying very hard.

    for some reason people seem to find it unpleasant to get what they want by playing the game, then they wonder why they are bored.

    When I think about everything we've been through together,

    maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,

     and if that journey takes a little longer,

    so we can do something we all believe in,

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  • earlnyghthawkearlnyghthawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2013
    I always fail to see the logic in turning something that often costs real money into ec that is so easy to obtain just by recycling unwanted drop items or selling them on the exchange.
    and when I say drop items I include items that you get from doff missions.

    when I was first started repping my romulan he had hardly any ec but I did all the reps with him, mostly spending ec replicating required items and buying them from venders.
    now is t5 in all reps and he has about 10mil in his pocked and about another 10 mil in the account shared bank.
    all gained from recycling and selling unwanted drops.
    that's without even trying very hard.

    for some reason people seem to find it unpleasant to get what they want by playing the game, then they wonder why they are bored.

    Lol, my sales are in a bit of a slump right now, but yeah, I agree with you. Some people just don't want to put any effort into things.
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