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[Season 8] Holodeck crashes on startup (Latest update: Pg. 319, post #3190)

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  • txspartantxspartan Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Wanted to stop by...

    *walks in, reads this post*

    Anyone remember this guy?

    *rolls eyes, shakes head, walks out*
    Grand Ayatollah of the Order of Persistence, First Chairman of the Persistent Defence Commission
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  • valdepessumirevaldepessumire Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    This springs to mind;

    When Electric/Water/Gas/Internet/Phone companies cannot provide a service for a prolonged period of time, by law they have to compensate the customers.

    If you have purchased content for the game or have a sub, I believe this should translate...

    Just food for thought.
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    From the website (Store - Lifetime Offers);
    Lifetime subscription covers your subscription fee for as long as the game is in service. Promotional discounts and features do not apply. You will be charged immediately when purchasing a lifetime subscription. Subscription fees are non-refundable. We make no explicit or implicit warranties on the service period of the game.

    Which basically means they don't have to compensate us for a thing. They can decide tomorrow "We're tired of people always wanting to be compensated, always blaming us for everything, never giving us any credit - we quit!", take the game offline permanently, shut down the servers, part them out and everybody here would be Simply Out of Luck.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    From the website (Store - Lifetime Offers);



    Which basically means they don't have to compensate us for a thing. They can decide tomorrow "We're tired of people always wanting to be compensated, always blaming us for everything, never giving us any credit - we quit!", take the game offline permanently, shut down the servers, part them out and everybody here would be Simply Out of Luck.

    That's also how marriages end..
  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Ok I havent been posting but I have been reading. SO heres my thoughts.
    I actually don't see how that's an update. He essentially told us the same TRIBBLE, just worded differently.

    He didnt update anyhting, he just told us to sit in our corner and be quit.
    druhin wrote: »
    For players suffering from being unable to launch the game since Season 8, what kind of compensation could those players expect? I'm thinking of the "Free Daily Lobi" which many of us have been unable to acquire due to recent shoddy programming on Cryptic's part.

    Your kidding right? They arent gonna give us squat.
    "Leave me alone and look for yourself if there is a fix"

    This is exactly what he said.

    Can you tell Im getting a litted POed.

    They give an explanation for removing the z store from the website.

    They said they had to have two seperate teams one for the ingame store and one for the website, Then they had to have devs link the two with every update. and it wasnt cost effective, so they eliminated it on the website.

    Well they have the gateway that reads ingame info. Why not add the store to the gateway?
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  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Except in this case, there'd be no custody battle over the kids...
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Which basically means they don't have to compensate us for a thing. They can decide tomorrow "We're tired of people always wanting to be compensated, always blaming us for everything, never giving us any credit - we quit!", take the game offline permanently, shut down the servers, part them out and everybody here would be Simply Out of Luck.

    You know I think that would be a lot better than leaving the game in there hands.
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  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Except in this case, there'd be no custody battle over the kids...

    Sure: http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/www/2d/fa/2dfa4389eed15a87d97ab81851c52e5a1355797702.jpg

    who gets Commander Kiki
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited November 2013
    Captains, I apologize if my silence in the thread has been seen as something that has ill intent behind it. I can promise you it's far from it. However, I can only pass along updates if I have updates, and my lack of posting means I don't have an update -- my posts before today's post explained this. Work continues on a resolution; that's the latest update, unfortunately. Any update would be that we have a potential fix, and that would be listed in Tribble patch notes.

    This issue is as frustrating for us as it is for you -- we want you in-game. We'll keep working on a resolution.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • maxxinamaxxina Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    pwebranflakes - You know, im communinating with support during tickets, and several days ago they said me, they are aware of the issue but werent able to reproduce it, so its kinda difficult to fix it. So simple Q for update. WERE guys who are working on it ABLE TO REPLICATE INTERNALLY the issue ? Simple YES/NO

    Can understand if this is deep issue , fix can take longer time.

    (talking about 18897741 )
  • pwebranflakespwebranflakes Member Posts: 7,741
    edited November 2013
    maxxina wrote: »
    pwebranflakes - You know, im communinating with support during tickets, and several days ago they said me, they are aware of the issue but werent able to reproduce it, so its kinda difficult to fix it. So simple Q for update. WERE guys who are working on it ABLE TO REPLICATE INTERNALLY the issue ? Simple YES/NO

    Can understand if this is deep issue , fix can take longer time.

    (talking about 18897741 )

    Yes; we were able to replicate it and are working towards a resolution.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=
  • maxxinamaxxina Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Thanks for the info and hopefully soon in the game
  • richardevegarichardevega Member Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Yes; we were able to replicate it and are working towards a resolution.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Can't wait for a fix to come soon tomorrow will be 2 weeks ;(
  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    The only apology I will ever give out here to PWE/Cryptic is towards Brandon.

    He is a poor soul in-between us and the Devs and has a gun pointed to his head.

    So, sorry for my cynical comments. I know by myself how it is to stand between the boss and the customers.
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    See, just saying the team's been able to replicate the error for study has made happy Persistant Officers.
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • dave18193dave18193 Member Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Captains, I apologize if my silence in the thread has been seen as something that has ill intent behind it. I can promise you it's far from it. However, I can only pass along updates if I have updates, and my lack of posting means I don't have an update -- my posts before today's post explained this. Work continues on a resolution; that's the latest update, unfortunately. Any update would be that we have a potential fix, and that would be listed in Tribble patch notes.

    This issue is as frustrating for us as it is for you -- we want you in-game. We'll keep working on a resolution.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=


    And what about our lost lobi, dilithium and suchlike?

    I apologize if I've been getting somewhat antsy but Cryptic hasn exactly treated us well and we did warn the devs in advance.
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    Then please fill out my dissertation survey on feline attachment, it'd be a massive help (-:

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  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Yes; we were able to replicate it and are working towards a resolution.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=


    This is an actual update. The whole we are working on it stuff. is just a deflection. As a magician I learned many different ways to deflect attention away from what is actually happening.

    I do agree with organicmanfred. as the only one I will ever say thank you or apologize to is Bran.

    Btw Bran. It was good to finally put a face to your name (ie Livestream)
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  • mathewprime1mathewprime1 Member Posts: 103 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Yes; we were able to replicate it and are working towards a resolution.

    Cheers,

    Brandon =/\=

    Will you extend the expiration date for the tribble and the lobi event/rerun if the team is unable to find a fix before the 27th?
    Fleet Admiral Mathew Prime.
  • jkstocbrjkstocbr Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    So in response to my ticket support I have directed me to this thread.

    Not sure why my particular connection issue relates to the Graphics issue in this thread, but who am I to argue. :rolleyes:
    My problem is documented in this thread LINK

    Ticket : 131116-001469

    After logging in to the launcher, and clicking Launch, I see the Cryptic Splash screen (for a long time) and then the game crashes with the following message;

    "Fatal Error: Unable to initialize on-demand patching and connect to the Patch Server; The connection was idle for too long".

    Relevant Notes;
    1. I did not have this problem for HOLODECK before Season 8
    2. I DID have this problem for TRIBBLE during the weeks leading up to Season 8. Now the problem has move to Holodeck after the S8 patch.
    3. No changes have been made at my end. Same ISP, equipment and network configuration.
    4. Tracert speeds have not changed since before S8 (I am on satellite)
    5. Disabled firewall and AV with no change
    6. Force verified with no changes
    7. Restarted all network equipment with no change
    8. I CAN login to Champions online
    9. Flushed DNS as suggested
    10. Downloaded a new copy of the launcher

    Currently downloading a fresh copy of STO via Arc on a clean laptop at another location.
  • ransom2375ransom2375 Member Posts: 243 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Typical day at Cryptic since Season 8:
    Cryptic Programmer #1: Any luck Mr. 2 ?
    Cryptic Programmer #2: No sir, i still cannot fix 18897741.
    Cryptic Programmer #1: *sigh*
    Cryptic Programmer #1: Mr. 3, the sensors cant penetrate the graphics density, there are to many systems. Can you find a way to fix 18897741?
    Cryptic Programmer #3: I would be happy to sir. I just, love scanning for 18897741.

    *starts singing*

    "18897741,
    you tiny little 18897741,
    you precious little 18897741,
    where are you?"


    Recording of the event

    PS: Here you can see how they try to fix the various graphic glitches. :D
    See, just saying the team's been able to replicate the error for study has made happy Persistant Officers.
    In all seriousness, i feel a bit better as well.
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  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    This is new I just got a meassge that is telling me to install the latest copy of STO. IE they want to put ARC on my system......
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  • tehburnsteptehburnstep Member Posts: 71 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    This is new I just got a meassge that is telling me to install the latest copy of STO. IE they want to put ARC on my system......

    If that steaming pile of... stuff... is a prereq for the fix, I will be *uninstalling*, not installing.
  • trahdahlintrahdahlin Member Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    So we are looking at going 3 weeks of offline activity? Looks that way to me.
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  • gostlymaniac14gostlymaniac14 Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    trahdahlin wrote: »
    So we are looking at going 3 weeks of offline activity? Looks that way to me.

    More than likely more than 3 weeks while paying customers get screwed.
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Still getting 18897741, but nothing telling me I need the 'latest version of STO'...
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Only got it the one time but was able to get in for a bit, by adding in yje swift shader file
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  • gostlymaniac14gostlymaniac14 Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    This whole no communication policy is getting annoying.
  • trahdahlintrahdahlin Member Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Granted, im not paying to play...But I am FAILING to support my fleet as well as many others. This is really getting bad for business.
  • trahdahlintrahdahlin Member Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I am glad that I kept my download of the launcher. I do not agree with having an additional launcher to launch another launcher to play a game. Unnecessary.
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