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Request for 5000 Zen for Odyssey Owners For Cryptic's Incompetence

lycistuslycistus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited November 2013 in Federation Discussion
I personally don't own the Odyssey pack but my god, how incompetent can a company be to release an update that kicks players when they use an ability from a ship that costs at the very least 2500 Zen. This is inexcusable, I have never in my life been so embarrassed to have spent money on a company. I could understand if stuff in the new update was broken that's expected, Cryptic can't seem to release something that works the first time around. But continuing to manage to break things in this manner that don't even have anything to do with the new content takes a special kind of idiocy. :mad:

I would be happy to see Odyssey owners sign this thread as a productive and possibly rewarding means to let Cryptic know they screwed up.
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  • cptshephardcptshephard Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Whut? :confused:

    /10char
  • captwcaptw Member Posts: 492 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    have you seen the Galaxy X? that ship is an old Season 1 C-Store Ship, and she has been nerfed from hell and back and still is. Ohh she does get the Cruiser command... only two of them, and it's not the turn boost at all.
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  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I have had no issues since getting the patch and using my oddy. Season 8 asnd the oddy are just dandy.

    Maybe its your settings thats lagging you out, or its just the surge of players causing server instabilities.

    So calm down take a very deep breath, let them get bugs worked out. If next week it keeps happening for you submit a bug report. Dont cry about it.
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  • lycistuslycistus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    As I said I don't have the odyssey myself, but a fleet member does. I am asking him to confirm it now.

    Every time the Aquaris or Chevron is activated within 30 seconds you will be kicked, just confirmed.

    Also kicks any player on the friends list in the area, when the ability is activated.
  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    lycistus wrote: »
    As I said I don't have the odyssey myself, but a fleet member does. I am asking him to confirm it now.

    Every time the Aquaris or Chevron is activated within 30 seconds you will be kicked, just confirmed.

    Also kicks any player on the friends list in the area, when the ability is activated.

    Again.
    Do's
    Bug report it.
    Ingmae ticket it.
    Wait until the maintenance is done.


    Dont's
    Cry on the Forum about it.
    Demand money back.
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    I am Il Shadow and i approve these Shennanigans!
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  • roninxlroninxl Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    EVERYTIME i use a ship ability i get kicked and kick people on my friend list..... My fleet have tested this makes no sense. My ship is unplayable. Chevron separation and Aquairius kicks me everytime i use them.
  • capnshadow27capnshadow27 Member Posts: 1,731 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    roninxl wrote: »
    EVERYTIME i use a ship ability i get kicked and kick people on my friend list..... My fleet have tested this makes no sense. My ship is unplayable. Chevron separation and Aquairius kicks me everytime i use them.

    Seriously guys add this stuff into bug report sections. And provide ingame tickets for it. The DEVs are more likely to get notice off those than outcries labeled as demands for their money back.
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  • cptshephardcptshephard Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    lycistus wrote: »
    As I said I don't have the odyssey myself, but a fleet member does. I am asking him to confirm it now.

    Every time the Aquaris or Chevron is activated within 30 seconds you will be kicked, just confirmed.

    Also kicks any player on the friends list in the area, when the ability is activated.

    This really isn't funny but I still can't help but laugh.

    Makes me glad I traded in my Oddy for a Fleet Assault Cruiser.
  • mikearoomikearoo Member Posts: 342 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Um, well I don't know what the issue is with having the two, but I have just the Tac ody and have already used it and the Aquarius console (that little pet often surprises me) all over the place today and never had an issue. Perhaps this emergency maintenance will cover the issue?
  • cmdrscarletcmdrscarlet Member Posts: 5,137 Arc User
    edited November 2013
  • johnny111971johnny111971 Member Posts: 1,300 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    lycistus wrote: »
    I personally don't own the Odyssey pack but my god, how incompetent can a company be to release an update that kicks players when they use an ability from a ship that costs at the very least 2500 Zen. This is inexcusable, I have never in my life been so embarrassed to have spent money on a company. I could understand if stuff in the new update was broken that's expected, Cryptic can't seem to release something that works the first time around. But continuing to manage to break things in this manner that don't even have anything to do with the new content takes a special kind of idiocy. :mad:

    I would be happy to see Odyssey owners sign this thread as a productive and possibly rewarding means to let Cryptic know they screwed up.

    Sigh... This type of rant is really not helpful... nor will it garner any sympathy from the company. Please ask your fleetmate to submit tickets about getting kicked (and your friends in the vacinity) attaching any error logs would be helpful... . This is not intentional... the more data they have the better. As much as he may love his oddy, until something can be worked out... he should consider unslotting the console for separation (if it is one (i don't have an oddy personally).

    Rants demanding money are pointless, and petitions are not permitted in the forums.

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  • fraghul2000fraghul2000 Member Posts: 1,590 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I personally don't own the Odyssey pack but my god, how incompetent can a company be to release an update that kicks players when they use an ability from a ship that costs at the very least 2500 Zen. This is inexcusable, I have never in my life been so embarrassed to have spent money on a company. I could understand if stuff in the new update was broken that's expected, Cryptic can't seem to release something that works the first time around. But continuing to manage to break things in this manner that don't even have anything to do with the new content takes a special kind of idiocy.

    I would be happy to see Odyssey owners sign this thread as a productive and possibly rewarding means to let Cryptic know they screwed up.

    Just give them a few days to get it fixed. The patch and new season has botched tons of stuff, seeing the return of some old, long lost bugs, like the mail-bug, the broken exchange or ships on ground maps for example.

    If I remember correctly, we had something similar a while back, where activating a certain ability would kick everyone in the current group you were in out of the game as well. It was fixed a few days later.

    On the positive side, if some of the Odyssey pilots are forced to remove their console for a few days, they might replace them with something worthwhile and stick with them. :) I've banked mine a long time ago.
    and petitions are not permitted in the forums.

    Neither is replying or quoting violations of the forum and community rules. If you want to play police, follow the rules, too.
  • roninxlroninxl Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    EVERYTIME i use my 2 ship skills im kikcing EVERYONE in the zone. My fleet have comfirmed this. Sol number 1 i poped cheveron and i get kicked and everything in zone. I have tried this in Dyson number 5 also and everyone got kicked. Workbees are fine, the others are not.
  • crypticarmsmancrypticarmsman Member Posts: 4,112 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    lycistus wrote: »
    As I said I don't have the odyssey myself, but a fleet member does. I am asking him to confirm it now.

    Every time the Aquaris or Chevron is activated within 30 seconds you will be kicked, just confirmed.

    Also kicks any player on the friends list in the area, when the ability is activated.

    ^^^
    Doesn't (and has never happened to me) on my Oddy pre-S8 patch or Post S8 patch. methinks other things are going on here relating to your friend's internet connection. It could indeed be something in Cryptic's net code that causing the problem, but it's not wide spread.
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  • f9thaceshighf9thaceshigh Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    roninxl wrote: »
    EVERYTIME i use my 2 ship skills im kikcing EVERYONE in the zone. My fleet have comfirmed this. Sol number 1 i poped cheveron and i get kicked and everything in zone. I have tried this in Dyson number 5 also and everyone got kicked. Workbees are fine, the others are not.

    yes we heard you the first two times, repeating yourself isn't going to make us any more sympathetic to your plight. You've said repeatedly that every time you try it you and all your friends get DCed ("Disconnected," not "Kicked," there is a big difference), have any of your friends with Odysseys tried using their abilities? Based on what everyone else is saying, I think you may be the only person with this issue. Try discharging the ship and recommissioning it (it's a C-Store ship so this should be free, just remember to strip it of anything you want to save first.)
  • silence1311silence1311 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Seems odd, too odd :P
    Like others above me have stated, could you go state this is the Bugs section.
    People who have the same issue will look there instead of in a random place. :)

    On a side note, Cryptic like bugging out ships. e.g. The Kumari shield mod and my Scimitar's epicly useless heals :P
  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    A bug is a bug. It has no respect for whether something was obtained for free or for 5000 zen. they can happen to anything.

    just bug report it in as much detail so they can fix it. they are not going to give you back zen, and you dont need people to sign petitions. all they will do is fix it.

    and releasing new stuff can break old stuff. it happens all the time. computer game development is a complex thing.
  • starsider32485starsider32485 Member Posts: 57 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    roninxl wrote: »
    EVERYTIME i use a ship ability i get kicked and kick people on my friend list..... My fleet have tested this makes no sense. My ship is unplayable. Chevron separation and Aquairius kicks me everytime i use them.
    Um...I've used all three Ody abilities since the season update, multiple times too...and haven't had any issues like that.
  • roxbadroxbad Member Posts: 695
    edited November 2013
    When you go, can I have ya stuff (you can keep the dodgy Oddy though)

    I'll take the Oddy.

    Really. The OP rant is a little premature. Sure, the better companies don't treat their live servers like perpetual beta, but give them a chance to address the issues that pop up, before going into meltdown mode.

    Hopefully this was addressed in the 10 minute patch on which I have been waiting.

    Though I doubt it will effect my Gal-R, as the two use different mechanics for separation.
  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Popped on and tested with my Oddy at ESD. Chevron separates, flies behind me and waits. Recalls fine as well.
    Escort deploys and loiters properly as well. Not seeing it here. Something is odd at the op's end.

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  • diotwdiotw Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I fly the Odyssey, and I've no problems launching my Aquarius escort since Season 8 began. Haven't tried the Chevron yet, but I don't expect it to cause a problem.
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  • vermatrixvermatrix Member Posts: 335 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I've had the odyssey for awhile with all three consoles on it and I haven't had any problems, everything launchs just fine. The only complaint I have about it is I think as the federation's largest ship it should have a little more crew compliment with the ability to launch the chevron saucer and the aquarius escort together without having to recall one to launch the other. either that or a shorter cool down time between them. Also I think there should be a separate row of console slots just for equipping universal consoles but I think every ship that uses those consoles should have that. But other than that stuff I think the odyssey works just fine.
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  • keppoch1keppoch1 Member Posts: 76 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I just tested my Oddy. I was able to use all three of the console abilities with no issues. even ran cruiser commands while I did it.

    I am quite happy with mine.
  • robdmcrobdmc Member Posts: 1,619 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Can we get a screen shot of the ship layout and boff layout? It will help us test to see if another piece is causing it to crash.
  • astro2244astro2244 Member Posts: 623 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    When you go, can I have ya stuff (you can keep the dodgy Oddy though)

    Indeed haul that oversized garden spade oddy with banana nacelles far far away.
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  • lycistuslycistus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    I had no idea petitions were not allowed on the forums, and so I apologize for any breach of conduct, it's been a while since I have read the forum rules, that's assuming I didn't just take a brief look and assumed that most of the agreement was generic like most forums and skip the rest.

    Also, this thread has less to do with the bug as it does with my inability to understand how Cryptic manages to push so much new content every few months and yet seems to be unable to release one new thing without bugging a dozen others. As I have said I don't even own the Odyssey, I have the Vesta which seems to have its own issue right now, the damage immunity to hulls for the Quantum Hardened Shield Bubbles doesn't seem to work every time, I am not running it either as I am in a Recluse on my main Fed Sci, trying out the Obilesk Carrier on my FED Eng, who was in a Chel Gret before, I don't often use my Fed Tac, who at the moment is in the Risian Corvette, a Sci KDF in a Karfi, a Tac KDF in a B'rel Retrofit, and a Romulan Sci in a Scimitar.

    Cryptic's uncanny ability to keep returning old bugs back into the game is disturbing me. When bugs return like this it suggests that they never really fixed the issue that cause them to begin with, which is usually the result of sloppy workaround code. I am starting to believe that some fundamental piece of the engine they use or some major functions in the game's code are so incredibly flawed and yet essential for the game to run that it isn't possible for Cryptic to actually fix problems without re-coding major portions of said code or the engine itself and instead of investing the time to fix it and taking a loss they continue to push new, yet broken content to make money.

    If they postponed the release of a season to fix things like Red Alerts, Mail, Bug Reports (which by the way is partially broken in all the cryptic games that share the engine, namely bug reports submitted by one individual end up being responded to another individual, less than a month ago on Champions I had a response to a bug report that I never actually sent in, that was a bug in the beta of Champions that still hasn't been fixed,) I would be ecstatic.

    These bugs have been reported, but as with dozens of others that are either likely to be either forgotten about, such as shield regen no longer being linked to shield power because Cryptic was unable to have ship shield regen values display properly with it, along with other decisions and/or bugs such as numerous science exotic damage abilities no longer being linked with aux power, and as stated before broken Red Alert entries, I doubt they will be fixed any time soon, more likely never.

    Like I said this thread had nothing to do with the bugs themselves but Cryptic's inability to release a functioning and stable product.

    [Edit]: The Vesta problem has been determined as well, when clicking it can be accidentally turned off. I had never experienced that problem myself but others had.
  • lycistuslycistus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    robdmc wrote: »
    Can we get a screen shot of the ship layout and boff layout? It will help us test to see if another piece is causing it to crash.

    Thank you, unfortunately this is the kind of response you cannot get when submitting a bug report ingame. I'll let Ronin know.
  • dahminusdahminus Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2013
    Is this your first mmo? All major updates have had bugs since the beginning. The decider is if they fix showstoppers within a decent time frame
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