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Hangar for the Odyssey?
hotfudgecakes
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I mean, the ship has 2 hangars (1 if its an odyssey tactical), 2500 crew, and the ship is ridiculously huge! So why the hell doesn't it have a usable hangar?! (Besides the Aquarius Escort) I mean, its Starfleet's most advanced ship coming from that century. So let's think, Regular Odyssey Star Cruiser: Advanced Slipstream Drive, OTacC: Aquarius Escort, OSciC: Work Bees and Sensor Analysis, and finally, OOpC: Saucer Separation (or as Cryptic likes to call it, the Chevron Separation thingy) WHY U HAVE NO HANGAR?! MOST OF THE ROMULAN DREADNOUGHTS HAVE ONE!!! EVEN THE ENTERPRISE NCC-1701 (No bloody A, B, C, or D, to quote Scotty) HAS ONE!!! THE ORIGINAL CONSTITUTION CLASS!!!!! AND THIS IS THE 25TH CENTURY!!! THAT WAS THE 23RD CENTURY!!! 2 CENTURIES AGO!!! Ok I understand "It'll make the Odyssey to OP", but that's kinda the point? Isn't it? I mean, the Scimitar Warbird has a hangar (I think, if it doesn't, give it one, ITS A DREADNOUGHT!!) So, my point is, just give the Odyssey a hangar, or at the very least, lower the recharge time for boarding parties. It's starfleet's most advanced ship of it's century.
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Hanger and lose "Command - Weapon System Efficiency" and "Command - Strategic Maneuvering" May not be the best trade.
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My thoughts exactly.
Oh while we're talking about canon... http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/d/d9/Scimitar_shuttlebay_1.jpg
Fighters are canon on the Scimtar :cool:
most mid-large ships in the trek universe will probably have at least one shuttlebay but that does not mean they should all get a hangar bay in the game. In the show it was rare to see anything other than the odd shuttle being launched and that was mostly for away missions.
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Shuttle Bays are not hangars. Hangars launch ships while under combat while Shuttle Bays only launch ships while not in combat. Chances are that Hangars are more protected while launching their ships while Shuttle Bays are not protected when launching their ships.
But is a mid-large ship classified to have a crew of 2500, and 2 shuttlebays? I would say that's pretty large! And still, the Delta Flyer isn't a fighter, but Voyager, 50 years ago mind you (Star trek time of course) had it. And, oh would you look at that, the Delta Flyer is a shuttle for a shuttlebay, and the odyssey conveniently has 2 shuttlebays!!
My Odyssey only has one shuttlebay, and no, the loss of two command comms abilities is not a good enough trade off just to be able to launch a single wing of pointless poxy fighters.
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Point taken, but at least reduce the recharge time for boarding parties, or even better, if you have another bridge officer with boarding parties, allow the 2nd boff to send it's boarding party after?
If u have the odyssey tactical, than yes of course it only has one, but look closely at the saucer section.
A shuttle bay launching fighters or shuttles during combat would not be retrieving them to replenish torpedoes or a quick repair, instead they would be launched and expected to remain out the whole time. That makes them impractical for combat because you need to be able to launch and retrieve rapidly. Think Scorpion fighters from The Vault compared to a hangar pet. But an Oddy with a single hangar would be no different than the Marauder, the Marauder doesnt even have a visible shuttle bay much less a flight deck like the Corsair has.
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The three pack Odyssey ships (Tac, Sci and Op) all only have one shuttle bay. The Aquarius doesn't just disappear if you don't have the console slotted. You might be running the free Odyssey Star Cruiser variant but a lot of people are most certainly not.
And it's a moot point anyway, even if we were using the free version, we're not crazy enough to want to lose two comms abilities that we've wanted for months, if not years, just to launch fighters.
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Yeah that's not OP
Let's put it this way, USS America LHA-6 looks like any other kind of aircraft carrier, but that doesn't mean she can land an F-18. She's designed for helicopters. Same deal here, that's just a shuttle bay on the oddys. The 1701 only hand a shuttle bay, sure they called it a hanger, but terminology changes. They also called away teams "landing parties."
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It was good for the TV shows and movies to have a shuttle firing a phaser beam, good story plot device.
For a Combat shuttle you need a micro warp drive, shields, navigational deflector, an efficient impulse drive and the space for the combat weapons energy capacitors and torpedo storage. This equals to a very large craft that is about twice the size of a regular shuttlecraft.
The Galileo from the TV series is about the size of a mini-van. Where are you going to place all of the equipment that you need to make it a combat craft.
1. Navigational deflector - this is needed for a FTL ship. It "deflects" all of the harmful particles that if they collide with you while you are at FTL speeds. Well lets just say that you won't make it from point A to point B at FTL if you don't have one.
2. Shielding - A combat shuttle would need stronger shielding. This stronger shielding calls for heavier shield generators which elates to more space required for the equipment.
3. FTL Drive: Normal shuttlecrafts are sub-light ships, they only have a sub-light drive. To have a shuttle that would improve the tactical capabilities of your starship, that shuttle must be ability to be deployed at long range and be able to travel FTL by itself. This requires space on the shuttle (reason for only a crew of maybe one to four). You need matter and anti-matter storage, FTL drive coils, dilithium chamber, warp plasma transfer conduits, basically more equipment that a Sub-light shuttle carries. More equipment equals more weight. Shutlecrafts don't have FTL or long-range FTL (plot device)
4. Weapon Energy Capacitors and munitions storage - Here is a no brainier. You need them and the energy weapon emitters to be an effective combat vessel. Without them, you aren't a combat vessel. The energy weapons on shuttles is basically used for ... well actually shuttles don't have combat weapons (another plot device). Damn writers!
Basically the TV series goes and equips the shuttlecrafts with these capabilities in order to get the main characters off the ship and for a plot device. Look at the shuttle Data was flying in one of the Movies. This is a large shuttle that has a crew cabin for two or four people and it was huge. Also the NCC-1701 or even the A carries only four to six Galileo-class shuttlecrafts. This is a sub-light non-combat capable passenger conveying craft. Without its anti-grav system it can't even break orbit.
Basically. The ships that is equipped with hangers is designed with the space to carry and maintain fighters and shuttles. The Delta-flyer is a large shuttle, it is so large that it cannot be stored in the Voyagers shuttle storeage hanger deck. It had to stay on the launch deck. STarships is design with a launch/landing deck and a shuttlecraft storage/maintenance bay (usually one deck below the launch/landing deck). Carriers also has this configuration, but they are design to handle both shuttlecrafts and fighters.
So if you are yelling about hanger bays. They just need to give every ship a Hanger bay then and increase the number of hangers on the starships that already have them. This would also require them to release shuttlecraft pets for all Starships and give players the ability to launch and land non-combat capable shuttlecrafts.
that's my two penny's worth.
It is so large it couldn't fit though the door to Voyager's hanger at all!
Give us the ability to modify the load-out and assign Officers for their skills to the Escorts in the set. Basically let us outfit the Escort with gear and tools - assign BOFFs to get the powers that makes a ship dangerous so the Escort can hold its own better.
Or in general make those more useful and you won't be clamoring to the pet/hangar crowd.
I'm sure the Odyssey is big enough to hold fighters, but the would make the ship to OP. If the Odyssey gets a Hanger bay then the Bor'tasq needs to have a hanger bay, its bigger than a Odyssey.
Like I said. Just give every ship the ability to carry fighters. A big free for all of fighters. Let's bog the computer processors down with fighters and make some OP starships. Hell, lets give thru-deck carriers and Heavy Escort, Tactical Carrier and teh Scimitar variants another hanger bay and starships that already has two hanger slots, hell give them a third one.