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Dev.Please put the Beams from the Oddy on the hull rather than the nacelles

age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
edited October 2013 in Federation Discussion
Please but the beams on the Oddy the hull rather than the necelles.I run turrets because.It is no wonder it has bad turning rate as there is ni thrusters there.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    yes, well that has been brought up more than once in the past. But the way you use the english langueage to bring across your point of view can't be anything else, but art. Almost poethic how you line up words, that only make sense if a person uses ALL of his imagination.
    You Sir, are an artist, of a very special and rare nature!

    anyway, in an interview one of the devs said that they hired a third ship artist, which means that if they have something like that on the agenda, they'll come around to "fix" that in about 5 years, i estimate.
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  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    baudl wrote: »
    yes, well that has been brought up more than once in the past. But the way you use the english langueage to bring across your point of view can't be anything else, but art. Almost poethic how you line up words, that only make sense if a person uses ALL of his imagination.
    You Sir, are an artist, of a very special and rare nature!

    anyway, in an interview one of the devs said that they hired a third ship artist, which means that if they have something like that on the agenda, they'll come around to "fix" that in about 5 years, i estimate.

    Good estimate on the 5 years for a fix! :D
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  • wraithshadow13wraithshadow13 Member Posts: 1,728 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    It is pretty awkward seeing the nacelles blasting away when you're on the larger craft, but still, it is a good point that these things should be fixed. I'm sure there are a million schematics out there that either show or explain the aft firing arc. Placing the weapons on the Nacelles would just be asking for someone to take them both out at the same time.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,905 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Personally I kinda prefer the phaser strips near the nacelles...on older ships like the Sovereign and Excelsior you end up firing beams through the nacelles.

    Imo it's worse to destroy your own nacelles than have a enemy do it! :P
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  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,702 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    it would be a pain to program, but they could have firing lockouts. My Dad was explaining to me how on Navy ships, each weapon has a firing lockout so it doesn't shoot the ship itself
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Here's the simple answer.

    No.

    Here's why.

    Because it's awesome. The ship generates enough power that it can use it's nacelles to balance a warp field... AND shoot!

    Nuff said.
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • shadowwraith77shadowwraith77 Member Posts: 6,395 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    Personally I kinda prefer the phaser strips near the nacelles...on older ships like the Sovereign and Excelsior you end up firing beams through the nacelles.

    Imo it's worse to destroy your own nacelles than have a enemy do it! :P

    25th century computer targeting wouldn't allow for the array to fire at the ship for which they were mounted to, unless authorized to do so somehow!
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,905 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    annemarie30 wrote: »
    it would be a pain to program, but they could have firing lockouts. My Dad was explaining to me how on Navy ships, each weapon has a firing lockout so it doesn't shoot the ship itself

    It's not like it does any actual damage, I just think it's kinda silly to see ones beams firing through their nacelles. Little things like that bother me, doesn't bother everyone but it kinda bothers me. But hey it's easy enough to just avoid the ships that suffer from that.

    Like I used to play WoW, I would do all I could to avoid clipping with Armor and Weapons. Sometimes I would pick race/class combinations for no other reason than for the gear I want and for it not to clip.

    Like for a example, I would never play a female Draenei who wielded a 2 handed weapon...with the awkward way their shoulders were angled most shoulder armor would clip through 2 handed weapons. So I had a Draenei Mage who wielded a Wand and a offhand...clipping problem solved.
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  • unboundinfernounboundinferno Member Posts: 99 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    It actually touches more on what I think is a fundamental flaw with most Federation ships now.

    Their phaser arrays are short.

    Its not so much that its shot from the aft section of the nacelle - its that all 4 are shot from virtually the same section of there.

    I fly with a single phaser array aft with two turrets and the KCB. Fore has a torpedo and 3 more arrays - and that's about the best I can see it as watching more than one shoot at once there drives me up the wall after a while.
  • age03age03 Member Posts: 1,664 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    baudl wrote: »
    yes, well that has been brought up more than once in the past. But the way you use the english langueage to bring across your point of view can't be anything else, but art. Almost poethic how you line up words, that only make sense if a person uses ALL of his imagination.
    You Sir, are an artist, of a very special and rare nature!

    anyway, in an interview one of the devs said that they hired a third ship artist, which means that if they have something like that on the agenda, they'll come around to "fix" that in about 5 years, i estimate.

    What is wrong with my English exactly?I worded it to the point and have you ever seen Doctors English how they write out prescritions.a 5 year old could sign up on this board and I have been doing it longer than you.

    @hereticknight085.Have you ever seen how 1701-A fires its phasers it is up to the fire control not to hit the nacelles on the saucer phasers and the way they are aranged.
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  • sevmragesevmrage Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Your english is lacking grammatical structure, punctuation, and proper word placement. I'm sure you speak just fine, but your typing leaves something to be desired. We can understand what you mean, but it takes us a minute.

    Also, doctor's writing is completely irrelevant to your argument. Unless your keyboard keys compose of "_ - \ | /," you can't use that as an excuse.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,016 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Weapon hardpoints in this game are awfull. The Galaxy Class shoots it's aft phasers from the torpedo launchers through nacelles and hull instead of using the array on the neck/rear of the saucer.

    I think if more love would've been invested in the ship models the game would "feel" just better. Though the status quo does capture the game's spirit quite well. The ships are cheap and fast and you want to buy a new one in a few weeks anyway ;)
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Galaxy_class#Tactical_systems

    At least one Galaxy-class ship in the show had phaser strips on the nacelles (ref: DS9: "The Way of the Warrior"). And this frankly makes perfect sense because it covers a blind spot in the firing arc.
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  • redheadguyredheadguy Member Posts: 423 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    annemarie30 wrote: »
    it would be a pain to program, but they could have firing lockouts. My Dad was explaining to me how on Navy ships, each weapon has a firing lockout so it doesn't shoot the ship itself

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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    age03 wrote: »
    @hereticknight085.Have you ever seen how 1701-A fires its phasers it is up to the fire control not to hit the nacelles on the saucer phasers and the way they are aranged.

    I never have my ship hitting itself. Dunno what you're talking about. And yes, I have seen how the Connie shoots her phasers. And I also (ignoring my distaste for that ship and all the ships of that era) fail to see how that has any relation to the placement of the weapon hardpoints on the Odyssey.

    She shoots from where she can. And she doesn't hit herself. What's the issue?
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • jer5488jer5488 Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    The phasers on the nacelles honestly don't bother me. There ARE phaser strips on the end of the nacelles - so it's a 'working as intended'. If you change the nacelles to pure white, you can see the strips better. I would prefer the nacelle strips be more centered - but they're firing from proper hardpoints and cover several nasty blind spots, so I'm personally fine with them.
  • sevmragesevmrage Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    angrytarg wrote: »
    Weapon hardpoints in this game are awfull. The Galaxy Class shoots it's aft phasers from the torpedo launchers through nacelles and hull instead of using the array on the neck/rear of the saucer.

    I think if more love would've been invested in the ship models the game would "feel" just better. Though the status quo does capture the game's spirit quite well. The ships are cheap and fast and you want to buy a new one in a few weeks anyway ;)

    I can vouch for this. I've had so many aft beams burn though nacelles... The Torps too could use a little touching up. If the target is above the saucer, the torps will wait until just before they clear the saucer before jumping up through it.

    Just some niggling things that would really help the fit and finish of this game if cleared up.
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  • baudlbaudl Member Posts: 4,060 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    age03 wrote: »
    What is wrong with my English exactly?I worded it to the point and have you ever seen Doctors English how they write out prescritions.a 5 year old could sign up on this board and I have been doing it longer than you.

    what he said:
    Your english is lacking grammatical structure, punctuation, and proper word placement. I'm sure you speak just fine, but your typing leaves something to be desired. We can understand what you mean, but it takes us a minute.

    Also, doctor's writing is completely irrelevant to your argument. Unless your keyboard keys compose of "_ - \ | /," you can't use that as an excuse.
    and more...

    please age03, reread what you posted so far in this thread alone...if you can't find anything that could be done different for better understanding what you actually mean, you can't be helped. It simply takes others (not only me, obviously) some time to understand what you mean.
    I sincerely hope (for you) that english is NOT your primary language. If english actually is your mothertongue, then the educational system of your country has failed you.
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  • chuckingramchuckingram Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    age03 wrote: »
    Please but the beams on the Oddy the hull rather than the necelles.I run turrets because.It is no wonder it has bad turning rate as there is ni thrusters there.

    Usual STO forum response to RFC's: "No, the ship doesn't need that, BECAUSE I SAY SO! You just want an "I win" button! If the looks aren't right for you then maybe that ships needs a better captain! (snicker)"

    Adult response: "Sure, why not? Good suggestion."
  • sevmragesevmrage Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I did some thinking. Considering the beam placement problems, if the beams of my Galaxy and Galaxy-X cut things off where they passed through, I know what would be the end result.

    Patch it up, and looky there, the new Nova Class!
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