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D'deridex, Arkif Carrier or Scimitar? A small conundrum.
mistformsquirrel
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Hello all! I find myself nearing the end of my leveling career on my first Romulan character, and seeing as we don't have a proper carrier, I'm finding myself slightly lost as to what ship to fly when I hit 50. Since I'm still new to Romulans (and thus don't really have a handle on their mechanics yet).
Traditionally I like big huge carriers - my two favorite characters to date have a Jem'hadar Dreadnought and a Vo'Quv respectively - so my initial leaning is the Scimitar as it's the most similar in terms of size and speed, and it can at least carry some fighters.
However there's a few wrinkles here that make this... complicated: If I buy the Scimitar, I almost feel like I may as well get the 3-pack, and if I do that I need to fork out 30 bucks (well, or grind up a metric ton of dilithium) on top of the stored up Zen I've already got. I could buy entire games cheaper than that. Understandably I'm more than a twinge hesitant to drop that kind of money on a ship, especially since it isn't exactly what I want, merely a stopgap.
Still, the Scimitar does suit my love of big stompy ships with fighter support, so I'll give it that. It also looks pretty snazzy, which is good.
On the other hand, I can get a different big stompy ship - the D'deridex, without paying a dime. In fact, unless I'm misreading the screen, I think I actually get it free at level 50 since I'm a lifetime subscriber, is that right? Even if it's not, I've got 2000 zen stored.
The downside is... I know next to nothing about it - from the look of it it plays like Klingon battlecruiser with singularity core abilities - is that an accurate assessment? What about the Projected Singularity console, is that any good? It sounds interesting on paper, but a lot of things sound good on paper then don't work very well in practice so I figured I'd just ask.
No fighters of course; which is kind of saddening, especially given the changes to them since I last played; but particularly if it turns out I don't need to use Zen on it at all, that might well be a good interim ship until they someday get around to a full fledged Romulan carrier.
That brings me to the Ar'kif Tactical Carrier. I liked the regular Ar'kif while leveling up, so adding fighter support to it sounds nice; and I can get it without spending any additional cash, already having the 2000 zen on hand, so that's good - but from doing some searching it sounds like it's singularity beam doesn't work very well, which would be kind of unfortunate in the extreme as it certainly sounds like a fairly cool ability at least conceptually. Additionally I have mixed feelings about escort/carrier hybrids having played the Armitage quite a bit fed-side. Still, it does get me my fighters without making me pay through the nose; so I'm still quite tempted, and it is a nice looking ship imo.
Any thoughts? I pretty much just solo grind dilithium/marks and the like at max level as well as running Foundry missions when something strikes my interest, so I'm not especially worried about stuff like fleet versions of ships and/or their usefulness in STFs; just their utility and fun factor while soloing.
Traditionally I like big huge carriers - my two favorite characters to date have a Jem'hadar Dreadnought and a Vo'Quv respectively - so my initial leaning is the Scimitar as it's the most similar in terms of size and speed, and it can at least carry some fighters.
However there's a few wrinkles here that make this... complicated: If I buy the Scimitar, I almost feel like I may as well get the 3-pack, and if I do that I need to fork out 30 bucks (well, or grind up a metric ton of dilithium) on top of the stored up Zen I've already got. I could buy entire games cheaper than that. Understandably I'm more than a twinge hesitant to drop that kind of money on a ship, especially since it isn't exactly what I want, merely a stopgap.
Still, the Scimitar does suit my love of big stompy ships with fighter support, so I'll give it that. It also looks pretty snazzy, which is good.
On the other hand, I can get a different big stompy ship - the D'deridex, without paying a dime. In fact, unless I'm misreading the screen, I think I actually get it free at level 50 since I'm a lifetime subscriber, is that right? Even if it's not, I've got 2000 zen stored.
The downside is... I know next to nothing about it - from the look of it it plays like Klingon battlecruiser with singularity core abilities - is that an accurate assessment? What about the Projected Singularity console, is that any good? It sounds interesting on paper, but a lot of things sound good on paper then don't work very well in practice so I figured I'd just ask.
No fighters of course; which is kind of saddening, especially given the changes to them since I last played; but particularly if it turns out I don't need to use Zen on it at all, that might well be a good interim ship until they someday get around to a full fledged Romulan carrier.
That brings me to the Ar'kif Tactical Carrier. I liked the regular Ar'kif while leveling up, so adding fighter support to it sounds nice; and I can get it without spending any additional cash, already having the 2000 zen on hand, so that's good - but from doing some searching it sounds like it's singularity beam doesn't work very well, which would be kind of unfortunate in the extreme as it certainly sounds like a fairly cool ability at least conceptually. Additionally I have mixed feelings about escort/carrier hybrids having played the Armitage quite a bit fed-side. Still, it does get me my fighters without making me pay through the nose; so I'm still quite tempted, and it is a nice looking ship imo.
Any thoughts? I pretty much just solo grind dilithium/marks and the like at max level as well as running Foundry missions when something strikes my interest, so I'm not especially worried about stuff like fleet versions of ships and/or their usefulness in STFs; just their utility and fun factor while soloing.
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As a lifer you get the Daeinos for free, which I think is easily the sexiest of the lifer ships. Tactical and regen mode + universal lt com and ensign stations make it more versatile than most ships. It may suit you. I'd at least give it a try before dropping money on anything else.
Of the three you're considering I've only flown the D'deridex and that not a lot. It is, as you say though, big and stompy so may meet your needs. I think the projected singularity console has a 2 minute cooldown so it's like a mobile gravity well but available less often.
Cloak, get into position, decloak. It's so easy to get over the D'deridex's poor turn rate that it's hardly worth arguing.
d'd fleet version is hard to get, you need starbase lvl 5 access.
arkif isn't fleet grade.
daeinos is also not a fleet grade.
Ar'kif will be fleet grade though when season 8 starts... may have to wait a couple months at least you know it will be soon.
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I also dont like that there's no visible hangar.
Ar'kif is Cryptic's Q3 money maker, not a reference ship that advances the game. IMO.
ps--according to people I've talked to, the special weapon damage is modified by skill points in particle generators.
It should be coming with the new Featured Episode that is scheduled for October 31st. So, not that long a wait.
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So you will miss out on the romulans singularity stuff. I have no idea when they will make a true romulan carrier.
Since you have a vice admiral ship token you could simply get your d'deridex for now. It is decent but nothing overwhelming in my opinion. Depends a bit what you plan to do with it. The console can be fun but the cooldown is too long to be truly helpful.
The scimitar is similar to the dreadnought in my opinion. It trades a hangar bay for a front weapon and comes with 5 tac consoles instead of 4. The special consoles are fun but not worth it in my opinion. Fill the tac slots with dmg, get 2 turn consoles and throw some universals in the science slots, like the borg, maybe leech, tachyokinetic, zero point...
This ship is monster. If you can live with one hangar it is something you want to keep. Otherwise I would not spend money on it. It is a bit expensive for a stopgap in my opinion.
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D'D is tier IV shipyard, not tier V.
Anyways, here's a general breakdown for OP:
Scimitar: Raw obscene ridiculous insane unadulterated purely massive forward firepower. Purchase if you wish to vaporize everything in front of you and don't feel like letting the target shoot back. Good for ending arguments. Also good for looking snazzy and pissing everyone off in Sector space. Also comes with Romulan Drones which are good pets and annoy players with their constant sensor madness.
D'Deridex: Big slow tough durable tanky strong versatile survivor. Good for usage if you RP, and also good at staying alive. Has good utility and versatility courtesy of it's BOff layout, and also is capable of taking huge hits due to it's high base hull and lots of Engi consoles and BOff slots. Also looks quite nice, and is the iconic Romulan Warbird.
Ar'kif: Small quick squirrelly hard hitting maneuverable shooter. Has decent support from it's pets, but also not a true carrier. Plays like an armitage, but is a little clunkier with it's BOff layout. However, it can hit hard because it's essentially a tactical escort, and has ok utility. However, it's a little tricky to fly. Also there is no fleet version, but that isn't much of a gimp. Would be pretty bland without the hangar, however with it, it's at least somewhat interesting. Also is a creative new design.
Hopefully that helps OP.
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Both the Ar'kif and Daeinos Veteran ship are getting Fleet upgrades, now I don't know how long it will take to unlock the Ar'Kif T3 Spire thingy. But you can start on Oct 31.
I don't know 100% if that's when Season 8 kicks off but at the very least it's a new FE.
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