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shpoks
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So people, seeing how we moved on and Season 8 comming so close on the radar now one can't help but wonder:
- What the heck happened with the Romulan M.A.C.O./Honor Guard alternative?
- The Romulan Environmental Sutit, the one Mr.Stahl said he's already seen like 3.5 months ago?
- Are there ever going to be Romulan Doffs to recruit from achieving commendation levels?
- When will everyone cease calling me 'Starfleet' and adress me for who I am?
(Anyone can add to this list, I know there's much more, but I just didn't want to make the oppening post a long list)
I really hate to be "that" guy, but some of this stuff really blows to be. I just feel thrown off whenever everyone adresses my Romulan as Starfleet. And having us entering a new season without this issues ironed out and fixed really seems like they're already on the back burner and my Klingon experience tells me that when something is on the back burner you have to wonder 'when' and 'if' it would actually be fixed.
I don't want to be on the devs' case so much, but I feel that it's our responsibility to bring these issues on the table if the quality of delivery is not apropriate, what I believe to be the case here.
- What the heck happened with the Romulan M.A.C.O./Honor Guard alternative?
- The Romulan Environmental Sutit, the one Mr.Stahl said he's already seen like 3.5 months ago?
- Are there ever going to be Romulan Doffs to recruit from achieving commendation levels?
- When will everyone cease calling me 'Starfleet' and adress me for who I am?
(Anyone can add to this list, I know there's much more, but I just didn't want to make the oppening post a long list)
I really hate to be "that" guy, but some of this stuff really blows to be. I just feel thrown off whenever everyone adresses my Romulan as Starfleet. And having us entering a new season without this issues ironed out and fixed really seems like they're already on the back burner and my Klingon experience tells me that when something is on the back burner you have to wonder 'when' and 'if' it would actually be fixed.
I don't want to be on the devs' case so much, but I feel that it's our responsibility to bring these issues on the table if the quality of delivery is not apropriate, what I believe to be the case here.
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- Will we ever see another Romulan science warbird? Ever?
At release we got 1 plus a mirror and fleet variant. That's 3 out of a total of 28 ships. All that's been added since is the non-warbird, lockbox, temporal one which is hugely expensive. And the sciency' tac Tulwar.
I've never played any MMO where a single class/profession/playstyle is so blatantly shafted. I understand tac ships are more useful/popular while levelling. I also understand that originally Romulans were to have access to all the ships of their allies. Especially on the fed side that includes a healthy selection of science ships. But that was changed. And I understand that it takes time to develop and test new ships.
But you also have to understand that players look at what's in front of them and the offerings for a Romulan science captain are sad and droopy.
Is it worth anyone continuing to play a Romulan science captain or would you recommend they play federation characters instead? Will Romulans ever get more science ships?
Yes, I hate it too.. But reality is they really want us to be fed or klingon. Thats why the new little sub escort "cruiser" with more capability than a frikkin mogai and nearly a scimitar. They dont want romulans, they want money..
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A long time ago. Why, did they actually fix that or you're pointing out how absurd the situation is when you're on your Republic Romulan?
Will just be GREEN.
When we finally do get it.
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I have really enjoyed the initial Romulan missions. I like the way your initial bridge officers are worked into the story line. I'm also glad you start at level 1. I was disappointed that I ended up having to choose between the Feds and KDF. But I guess the game mechanics need you to belong to one of two factions. Others have told me that a third faction doesn't work out too well in faction-based games.
I had a lvl 31 Lethean character. When I created it, I was disappointed that it started at level 20. When I saw that had been changed, I sold every item I could, transferred the EC to the account bank, deleted the character, and re-created him. It's just a game, and it's not like the character had all kinds of great stuff. I haven't gone too far into the KDF tutorial, but I like it much more than the one I used about a year ago.
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That depends on who you talk to. Developers of MMOs with three factions just won't shut up about how it's the panacea for all potential population balance issues in PvP. Of course it isn't but why let facts get in the way of well oiled PR? :P
Three factions can work just fine but this game is based on an IP focused entirely on one of the game's factions, ergo Federation will probably always be more popular. The fact that they're older means they've also had more development time spent on them. They have a much wider selection of ships so even someone who's never watched Star Trek might look at them and decide to go fed.
Making Romulans an entirely separate third faction would probably only compound the problem. Plus there's the issue of money existing players may already have spent on ships etc. That could have been an enormous turn off for existing players to try Romulans and spend any money on them. Romulans allying with Fed or KDF means that money wasn't necessarily wasted because at least you can still equip those consoles.
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Yeah, but at the same time it could also be a missed opportunity to make the game grow.
While it's ok to cater to your current population like you mentioned, it's still your current population. If some of them have an issue with trying out Romulans because they can't use the consoles that they bought as Feds. or KDF (which is extremely childish IMHO), you'll still have them as Feds or KDF.
But on the other hand, you may have people that are pure Romulan fans that didn't play STO, heard/read about LoR somewhere and tried the faction only to be dissapointed at the RR not being a complete faction and left again. Missed opportunity to grow. (Just to be clear, I'm not saying RR isn't a full faction because the alliance system, but because of some of the issues I mentioned in the OP and others have mentioned in the thread. They could have at least made it so everyone remains calling you 'Romulan' after the Republic arc. After the high standards set by the new missions and the level of quality and immersion they offered, getting to level 50 an feeling like generic Starfleet really feels like a flop.)
Going back to the Vulcan example. I and several others noted when it was added that this mission would greatly benefit from the tech to know what race the player was. And that was a long time before LoR. Why? It's Vulcan. Vulcan characters could be reasonably expected to have all the data that your character runs around and collects on Vulcan.
LoR was the release of the new stuff that needed it and anything prior didn't have it. Hopefully that will change soon.
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Nothing wrong with that
*accepts energy credit tranfer from the Romulan diplomat*
I also would have preferred Romulans as a proper faction.
I just think the reason you suggested - 3 factions in a game doesn't work - isn't true and suggested what I think their reasoning was.
For starters, with a game this old the current population is your main audience. The chance of any expansion bringing in lots of new players isn't high, no matter how substantial it is. So it does make sense to cater to existing players.
As for anyone being childish, I think we need to be mindful of the game's business model. The cost of vessels is not insignificant, especially if we also consider lockbox vessels which are character bound. It's conceivable that some players will have poured over a thousand dollars into their existing fed character(s).
It wouldn't be childish of them to look at a new faction which can't use the majority of federation ships etc. and not be enticed by it. It's called investment. They've invested a lot of money in federation faction stuff and if they can't bring that to a new faction then that is a factor which will weigh against it.
I'm sure many made a Romulan and played through the missions. There were warbirds aplenty when LOR launched. But what matters (at the business level) is how much money they spent on their Romulan characters. Whether we like it or not that is what drives development decisions.
By making Romulans a semi-faction the devs have at least allowed purchased Fed/KDF consoles to be used by Romulan characters and also allowed them to stay with existing Fed/KDF fleets. It removes/lowers a few barriers to players spending money on Romulan content.
Like I said, I'm in the camp who'd prefer Romulans as a proper faction and you've raised some genuine quality of play problems which should be simple to fix.
Personally I stopped playing for a while after they screwed us all with the infiltrator/subterfuge change. I lost the ambush duration bonus from several hard won Reman boffs which would have cost me about $30 worth of ec to replace. Possibly drove others away too? I'm still not happy about that but it's clear they're not going to fix it (I know they could) so I've finally started deleting those now useless Reman boffs.
If they finally offer another sci warbird I'd probably buy it but having been mugged by them makes me much less inclined to spend money on the game. I've already bought 2 tier 5 fed sci vessels so I'm still slightly tempted to throw in the towel on Romulans.