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Guild life in STO,fleets....we live in interesting times that's for sure.In the past month I have seen and heard things that at the least would raise an eyebrow,and more often than not,just jaw dropping.
I saw a fleet completely disintegrate the moment all their fleet holdings were maxed.All of a sudden paranoia hits the 2 fleet leaders,the idea that 'someone might overthrow them' and take over the fleet had them so scared they put the fleet on a complete lock down.In their idiotic quest to find people 'worthy' of staying,they forced most people out by making life miserable.To add insult to injury,the fleet leaders' contribution to the fleet holdings were questionable at best,and when confronted with that fact they claimed to have put in resources 'secretly' and that the numbers were skewed.I mean...really?How dumb does someone have to be to come up with a crazy story like that?Very Gullible Obtuse people apparently.
Or fleets where members are put on trial.When I first heard of it I just laughed it off and thought they were joking or taking their RP a bit too seriously.But fact is stranger than fiction,I mean a trial with a judge,prosecutors,defense council,a full jury, a 'star witness'....the whole 9 yards.You are laughing now,but I tell you right now,these people were dead serious,this wasn't 'extreme RP'ing',they meant every bit of it.
It really makes you wonder about people's sanity and what guild/fleet dynamics do to those people already on the edge.
Well,that was it for now,if I have something new to share I'll update the thread.In the meantime feel free to share your stories of guild/fleet soap/drama/insanity.
I saw a fleet completely disintegrate the moment all their fleet holdings were maxed.All of a sudden paranoia hits the 2 fleet leaders,the idea that 'someone might overthrow them' and take over the fleet had them so scared they put the fleet on a complete lock down.In their idiotic quest to find people 'worthy' of staying,they forced most people out by making life miserable.To add insult to injury,the fleet leaders' contribution to the fleet holdings were questionable at best,and when confronted with that fact they claimed to have put in resources 'secretly' and that the numbers were skewed.I mean...really?How dumb does someone have to be to come up with a crazy story like that?Very Gullible Obtuse people apparently.
Or fleets where members are put on trial.When I first heard of it I just laughed it off and thought they were joking or taking their RP a bit too seriously.But fact is stranger than fiction,I mean a trial with a judge,prosecutors,defense council,a full jury, a 'star witness'....the whole 9 yards.You are laughing now,but I tell you right now,these people were dead serious,this wasn't 'extreme RP'ing',they meant every bit of it.
It really makes you wonder about people's sanity and what guild/fleet dynamics do to those people already on the edge.
Well,that was it for now,if I have something new to share I'll update the thread.In the meantime feel free to share your stories of guild/fleet soap/drama/insanity.
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That's just... like... beyond ridiculously funny.
Then there was speculation what happned then after that infighting began everyone wanting word what happened finally i tried to joke with a fleet mate he took it serious i got disgusted and left the fleet just to take a break from them.
well the two who were in charge were squablling back and forth what to do one sent me copys of messages and even copys of fleet chatter.
Then he asked me my opinion on what was going on so i gave my opinion even though i said up front it was based entirley off what i had read and was probably not the best opinions or even advice.
well when i left i told them i was only gonna be gone for a short time but would rejoin in a week or two it was ok'd and i was told i could return no hassle.
well after everything i asked to return i was then told it would have to be decided by the hierarchy btw which had not existed as far as i knew till this point.
then for no reason the co leader dropped me off his friends list i was kicked from the cross channel chat aswell as KDFdefera for no reason at all.
so you think you got drama try that pisser on for size man....and thus i wont ever and i mean EVER consider joining a fleet again a cold day in hell is not long enough.
Btw the leaders are not the actual leader as far as i know he is still not active
Probably someone we wouldn't give an early promotion to or something. Oh well.
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I met this Texan in game,on the surface a normal and reasonable guy.But when met with some adversity,a whole new personality came to the surface.Like an instant meal 'just add water' he turned into a racist conspiracy theorist,who blamed everything on the government and people south of the border.The 'if you are not with me,you are a 'snake in the grass' and out to get me' personality.Hearing this guy on voice chat,going on and on with his crazy far fetched conspiracy theories and sounding like Forrest Gump's and Yosemite Sam's love child....I couldn't decide who to call first,Jeff Foxworthy that I found a new punchline to his 'You might be a redneck...' routine or the nearest mental hospital. 'You might be a redneck....if you think the government puts micro tracking devices in your food to track your TRIBBLE'. I see the look on your face and you think I'm joking here,but that is really what he believes.
You might have noticed with some people that their efforts to cover up a (perceived) weakness or flaw in themselves they will actually draw a lot of attention to it.His major thing are the words 'dumb' and 'stupid'.Mentioning either word around him in any sentence will have him in a fit of rage,and he responds the same way every time....'Are you calling me dumb,are you calling me stupid?I have street smarts!You (beep beep)!'.
Well,before you opened your mouth....but now....high school diploma trumps street smarts?
Like I said,for the most part there are normal,everyday people in this game....but there are people like him,barely holding on to reality,and they do find their way into fleets.
Keep sharing your experiences,we will be better for it.....or at least give us a good laugh.
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This is a game and should be fun and we should enjoy ourselves. Bringing drama in takes away from that.
Then i hear about fleets that have contributions requirements, enforce fleet uniforms at meetings, etc etc, okay i get it, micro military culture, thats okay i guess, you can choose it if you want it
then theres the next level, people get acused of spying, stealing, attempted hostile takeovers , the whole **** hitting the fan kind of stuff, I just don't understand what would make anybody want to be in that by choice, especially when there are far better alternative fleets
( mine is recruiting by the way and we don't give you any BS , shameless promotion i know )
I'm guessing Tal Shiar and Section 31 wannabes. :rolleyes:
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HAHA that sounds about right
Does arguing with a comics fan that Aquaman is the most useless character ever, constitute drama? I do it for laughs for the fleet to have, but, you know.
However there is a small demographic of people out there who seem to exist just to be drama llamas. Best thing to do is ignore them or ditch them because a game is never worth all that TRIBBLE.
The reason there is a thing as fleet drama in the first place....."psycho,racist,conspiracy nut,wacko,makes Gump look like a genius,schizo,pathological liar" maniacs.....are just very,very good at pretending to be normal everyday people....and most of the time you won't find out until it's too late.
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Bureaucracy: You can't live with it, and you can't kill it.
My fleet is very simple, I am the fleet admin, and until I grow tired of being the fleet admin that is just how it is. You can call me a tyrant, dictator, or what ever else makes you feel well, but I care not, this is a game and I'm here to have fun, not play at politics. Though I only enforce one rule: Have fun but not at the expense of others. I have more than double the fleet holdings than any other member, including my wife and our RL friend that plays -- which all together we hold about 80% of the fleet's net holdings. So, the way it works is it is my fleet, and anyone unhappy with that fact can remove themselves from the fleet just as easy as they accepted the invite. Short, simple, no drama, no fuss.
We recruited a member who was just a 15 yr old kid now we don't have an age limit rule in our fleet but we do ask you to be mature. He was a real chatterbox in fleet chat which was fine he was invited to team speak but his parents would not let him but then they agreed to let him use team speak and that's where the nightmare began.
He would ask members to help him level up and due missions once you teamed with him he went afk. On team speak he would sing non stop if he was not singing he would play his music or he would ask the same question over and over and over and over.
We tried different corrective actions on this member from muting his mic to creating a room and putting him in it for a time out. And I cannot count how many times we sat him down and warned him.
In the end it got to the point where our team speak became a ghost town because our members didn't want to deal with him So we had to let him go from the fleet.
Our members stopped using team speak because they didn't want to be disrespectful to this member. We all wish him well and hope he learned from his mistakes and we hope he can find a new fleet he can call home.
How could this be fixed?
I think that Cryptic should take a serious look at being able to ally fleets so that a fleet at top tier in everything is able to ally with a newer fleet, either one they make themselves or just any beginning fleet, and once allied all members from both fleets are able to access both fleets projects and fleet vendors according to rank privilege's set by the top tier fleet.
Wait. Someone actually believes Aquaman ISN'T
useless?
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Well, that and the occasional new guy who comes in and immediately starts ******** about our fleet rank structure (we gate our fleet access according to project contributions, with the stores being unlocked at 100k) and leaves five minutes later.
'Course he isn't. He's just got a very particular skillset that often isn't applicable.
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I speak from experience since I am in a Clan since 2004, called StarFleetXtreme [SFX]. This Clan was born on the great game Bridge Commander (google it) and we always had a military structure in the clan.
We had many problems with power hunger members when they get to the Admiralty ranks and we lost many good people because of it. Our story is long, with good and bad moments.
Since the last 6 years more or less, when we were part of Star Wars Galaxies and one of the biggest and well know clan out there, we started to see things that were breaking the clan again.
Someone toke over, and it is still today the leader of my clan, my Fleet.
We consider each others friends, family and partners. We have girls, we have boys, what we do not have is teens, kids less then 18 years old.
Most of us are mature men between 25 and 40. I think I am the second oldest lol about to make 41 in November. :eek:
The point of all this small story is, that today, we have strict rules about our fleet in STO. As a clan we keep the military tradition of SFX since our ranks are something we get by working hard, for the clan, not just the game.
We are proud of our ranks, from Cadet to Fleet Capitan, I had a great time living with SFX. I am proud of what we achieve.
Regarding STO, we have a lot of strict rules about our things. I can tell you, we never got scamed, never happen a member empty the fleet bank of money or items, and we use well the ranks and permissions in the game for this.
With the starbases, mine, embassy all that stuff, we also implemented rules. About 90% of the members cannot buy things that cost provisions, not because we do not have enough, but it is a system to be abused.
We have a special rank for members that contribute the most, I have the honor of be in that rank, so I never need to ask permission when I want to buy something that cost provisions, the door is always open to me and plus 4. Why? Because we give our blood, sweat and (censured lol) for the fleet projects.
We earned that right and privilege because of our effort.
I think many people in the gaming community, not just on STO would be surprised the way we run our clan (fleet in this case).
That is the problem I see many times for example here on STO, people get pissed because leaders disappear, cannot get anything from the starbase and so on.
We can smell a person that is genuine interested in been part of a family from a guy that thinks he can earn our trust just to empty our stuff. Good luck with that.
What really makes me sad, is that, fleets, guilds, clans, whatever, should be used to have fun, to make friends and build on something good with trust and honor, and every time I ear stories like this one or even others worst, I just think "glad I am in a honored and great clan".
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