it already has two big butt hangar bays. get rid of the school playground and other kiddie support and put a couple of big ol honking hangars in there. maybe a couple support pylons to support 4 Miranda class frigates...
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it already has two big butt hangar bays. get rid of the school playground and other kiddie support and put a couple of big ol honking hangars in there. maybe a couple support pylons to support 4 Miranda class frigates...
since when do miranda class frigates land anywhere? 2x defiant class would work better since they do land.
Pls not this jupiter thing - its ugly as hell.. Kind of like the new avenger
Hence the constantly-said statement that it would require a remodeling before its release... but IMO even the current one looks better than the Avenger.
The only thing that would make the Jupiter look good would be a fair sized antimatter weapon strategically placed somewhere in the middle of that flying pile of scrap.
The Galaxy has the bulk to make a decent sized carrier but would require a redesigned saucer to be convincing in that role but frankly I'm not supportive to efforts to breath new life into these old ships and would much prefer seeing new unique designs.
Both the Federation and the Klingons are overdue for a super capital class ship since the introduction of the Romulan ships some of which are enormous in comparison to their Federation and Klingon counterparts.
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Both the Federation and the Klingons are overdue for a super capital class ship since the introduction of the Romulan ships some of which are enormous in comparison to their Federation and Klingon counterparts.
lol The Federation and KDF already have their captial ships that were released in 2409 and we're still in the same year even - the Odyssey and Botrasqu' classes.
Don't take Romulan ships as an example, the Romulans always had ridiculously huge ships in the shows, but the Federation or KDF never followed that model. And think about it, do we really need KDF and Fed versions the size of a Scimitar clogging sector space and respawn points into a complete mess?
lol The Federation and KDF already have their captial ships that were released in 2409 and we're still in the same year even - the Odyssey and Botrasqu' classes.
Don't take Romulan ships as an example, the Romulans always had ridiculously huge ships in the shows, but the Federation or KDF never followed that model. And think about it, do we really need KDF and Fed versions the size of a Scimitar clogging sector space and respawn points into a complete mess?
I agree Romulan design has always been about ships that can operate alone or in pairs. I can not recall seeing more than three Romulan ships on screen at once, besides one time when that massive fleet goes past Deep Space Nine to attack the Dominion "Homeworld." While the KDF has always been about many small ships and Starfleet likes to build mission specific ships. Neither KDF or Strafleet is likely to build "super capital ships."
Also, I would like to point out that the Galaxy is not a weapon of war. Yes it can defend itself, but the design is around 40 years old. (For comparison the U.S.S. Enterprise CVN-65 was in service for exactly 50 years.) The Galaxy-X, which one can assume is a compete refit of the Galaxy-class, however, has no such excuse. That thing is designed for war and should have much more offensive capabilities.
Edit: I just looked at my technical manual for the Enterprise-D and saw the U.S.S. Galaxy was launched in 2356 and commissioned in 2357 making her 53 years old as of 2409.
im so tired of pointing out how stupid this is, that im thinking of just putting the answer in notepad...
just to navigate in space at 1% lightspeed mandates passively resisting impacts from bits of dust that hit with the destructive force of a hiroshima bomb.
weapons dedicated to damaging a space-ship need to beat not only that, but the active defences.
if thats to complicated, the blatantly obvious to all who arent indoctrinated, is that if the federation wasnt equally or more militarily capable than the kdf, earth, vulcan, andoria & risa etc, would all be protectorate worlds of the kdf.
Are you arguing with me or agreeing with me here? Because, it looks like your doing both... at the same time...
you can look at your manual all you want, any galaxy in game with mk12 systems is a complete refit if not just new build.
if its got a venture or monarch hull, its definitely new build.
The Monarch and Venture builds are new, I agree and was forgetting about those. Thank you for pointing them out to me.
However, I must disagree with you when you say putting MK XII phasers on a Galaxy makes it a new build. There about a dozen major systems on a starship and hundreds more minor ones. Also, there is a little matter of structural engineering, given how much Starfleet ship design has changed since the Galaxy-class was launched and how radically different a "modern" design like say the Odyssey is when compared to the Galaxy. That combined with advances in warp physics it might be fair to say that the hull itself is becoming obsolete. Also, we should keep in mind that completely gutting a starship and replacing its insides might not be as economically viable as building new ships instead.
Of course, this is a VIDEO GAME and so economics have nothing to do with anything here :P (well unless you count Cryptic needing to make money). Actually, none of this actually matters on why the Galaxy shouldn't still be a useful end game ship. Heck you can even make the same arguments applying to why we shouldn't get a T5 Constitution. Doesn't stop me from wanting one though .
Call me crazy, but the idea of the Galaxy Y carrier makes sense to me. I see the Galaxy X as the natural evolution of a longstanding, expensive, strong starframe into a warship. There were obviously a very large number of these things built while the Federation was on a war footing during and immediately after the Dominion War. It stands to reason that many of the Galaxy class ships that were built would be refit into support and/or workhorse roles, as newer, shinier ships of the line such as the Odyssey, Regent and Vesta serving as envoys in diplomatic missions and functioning as capital ships.
With this perspective in mind, I can fully see a refit of the Galaxy as complete as the Dreadnought refit to function as a carrier. I see the star drive being refit essentially the same way as the Galaxy X with three nacelles in order to facilitate the extra tonnage of the carrier-saucer, but with the obvious balance of NO lance. The saucer would be refit to support one wing of small fighters on the order of Scorpions or something else like that.
When going into battle, this ship would drop the saucer to function as the support vehicle for the wing of fighters while the battle section goes off to fight like a light cruiser. The Galaxy class is begging to be converted into a self contained light assault squadron. I don't think this is too much of a stretch in game. I'm still a noob so I'm not sure exactly how this would be balanced in-game, but it doesn't seem like it would be overly difficult to do.
it has been suggested on multiple occasions that the Jupiter class would make a good carrier.
Jupiter? YES
But please not as a carrier ... the game doesn't need more imo
But on the other hand ... a Fed ship with Defiant Escort Frigates (or basically any Escort-Frigate) would be pretty cool XD
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Just give it some more lens flare and be done with it
since when do miranda class frigates land anywhere? 2x defiant class would work better since they do land.
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Hence the constantly-said statement that it would require a remodeling before its release... but IMO even the current one looks better than the Avenger.
Don't forget to lego-ize it....
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Agreed, major redesign... Like a total overhaul of it's appearance so it looks nothing like the original model.
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It could carry what soverign classes as its frigates.. the thing is HUGE mungous...
Eh if were fighting dinosaurs may as well HEHEHHE;)
The Galaxy has the bulk to make a decent sized carrier but would require a redesigned saucer to be convincing in that role but frankly I'm not supportive to efforts to breath new life into these old ships and would much prefer seeing new unique designs.
Both the Federation and the Klingons are overdue for a super capital class ship since the introduction of the Romulan ships some of which are enormous in comparison to their Federation and Klingon counterparts.
lol The Federation and KDF already have their captial ships that were released in 2409 and we're still in the same year even - the Odyssey and Botrasqu' classes.
Don't take Romulan ships as an example, the Romulans always had ridiculously huge ships in the shows, but the Federation or KDF never followed that model. And think about it, do we really need KDF and Fed versions the size of a Scimitar clogging sector space and respawn points into a complete mess?
Sounds incredibly over-powered.
I agree Romulan design has always been about ships that can operate alone or in pairs. I can not recall seeing more than three Romulan ships on screen at once, besides one time when that massive fleet goes past Deep Space Nine to attack the Dominion "Homeworld." While the KDF has always been about many small ships and Starfleet likes to build mission specific ships. Neither KDF or Strafleet is likely to build "super capital ships."
Also, I would like to point out that the Galaxy is not a weapon of war. Yes it can defend itself, but the design is around 40 years old. (For comparison the U.S.S. Enterprise CVN-65 was in service for exactly 50 years.) The Galaxy-X, which one can assume is a compete refit of the Galaxy-class, however, has no such excuse. That thing is designed for war and should have much more offensive capabilities.
Edit: I just looked at my technical manual for the Enterprise-D and saw the U.S.S. Galaxy was launched in 2356 and commissioned in 2357 making her 53 years old as of 2409.
Are you arguing with me or agreeing with me here? Because, it looks like your doing both... at the same time...
The Monarch and Venture builds are new, I agree and was forgetting about those. Thank you for pointing them out to me.
However, I must disagree with you when you say putting MK XII phasers on a Galaxy makes it a new build. There about a dozen major systems on a starship and hundreds more minor ones. Also, there is a little matter of structural engineering, given how much Starfleet ship design has changed since the Galaxy-class was launched and how radically different a "modern" design like say the Odyssey is when compared to the Galaxy. That combined with advances in warp physics it might be fair to say that the hull itself is becoming obsolete. Also, we should keep in mind that completely gutting a starship and replacing its insides might not be as economically viable as building new ships instead.
Of course, this is a VIDEO GAME and so economics have nothing to do with anything here :P (well unless you count Cryptic needing to make money). Actually, none of this actually matters on why the Galaxy shouldn't still be a useful end game ship. Heck you can even make the same arguments applying to why we shouldn't get a T5 Constitution. Doesn't stop me from wanting one though .
Cryptic does not have the licensing rights to lens flare.
With this perspective in mind, I can fully see a refit of the Galaxy as complete as the Dreadnought refit to function as a carrier. I see the star drive being refit essentially the same way as the Galaxy X with three nacelles in order to facilitate the extra tonnage of the carrier-saucer, but with the obvious balance of NO lance. The saucer would be refit to support one wing of small fighters on the order of Scorpions or something else like that.
When going into battle, this ship would drop the saucer to function as the support vehicle for the wing of fighters while the battle section goes off to fight like a light cruiser. The Galaxy class is begging to be converted into a self contained light assault squadron. I don't think this is too much of a stretch in game. I'm still a noob so I'm not sure exactly how this would be balanced in-game, but it doesn't seem like it would be overly difficult to do.
I'd like to hear some thoughts on this.
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Rob
Jupiter? YES
But please not as a carrier ... the game doesn't need more imo
But on the other hand ... a Fed ship with Defiant Escort Frigates (or basically any Escort-Frigate) would be pretty cool XD