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tiekosoratiekosora Member Posts: 325 Arc User
edited October 2013 in Ten Forward
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/29120/-star-trek-could-be-revived-for-tv

Good news for the JJTrek haters is that with the licensing differences there will be no JJTrek TV show. So how would we want it to start? I say a reboot, TOS from the beginning. Perhaps an epic pilot where we show Kirk's last mission as XO of the Farrugut, and his promotion to captain of the Enterprise, and jumping right into some action. Not rewrite of history, but Trek Prime universe.

Some things that should probably be considered -

* New actors to play the iconic roles.
* Five year mission = five year series run. Can't finish up an epic series within that time, take it to the big screen.
* No lens flares, no shaky cameras a la Abrams, BSG, Whedon.
* Traditional ship designs - TOS Connie for the series. I can see as a flash forward/end credits scene for the series finale, the crew taking their places on the new bridge of the refit TMP Connie, getting ready to take her out for their first film.
* New opportunity for an Animated Series reboot too. The original is still wildly popular, and I remember watching it as a kid.

I myself would love a reboot. I do like the new movies, but they aren't the Trek I grew up with, and I know a lot of fans around the world would love to see Trek on the small screen again, with the familiar characters and ships we all love.
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  • voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Honestly, and Keep in mind any talk of a trek series is pure speculation at this point, I don't think you need to reboot/redo the series.

    Take it off from the end of DS9/Voyager. There is still plenty of story to tell in the Prime verse and there is plenty of Galaxy left.

    Any redo isn't going to bring in the die hards as much as continuing where the series originally left off, and I don't think any series is going to be successful unless you bring in the trek fans.
  • tiekosoratiekosora Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Most of the actors from DS9 and Voyager are well into their 50's or more, so I could only see cameos from them in a new series, with new characters. What big new threat could be out there between then and 2409, that hasn't been revealed in the game now? Maybe pick it up following the events of the destruction of Romulus. Ambassador Picard could make a few appearances along with D'Tan. But it would have to revolve around a new ship, and new crew.
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Prequel series? enterprise tell me again how that series turned out

    Personaly i think if there is a new TV series i think they should get permission from cryptic to use shon and the enterprise -f and make a series utulising the first andorian enterprise captain.

    this would be a good chance to learn more about the andorians more then we already know it would be very interesting.
  • captz1ppcaptz1pp Member Posts: 931 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    TOS was made in the 60's, that alone requires a reboot*, lol.


    *As far as set design and fashion is concerned.
  • gurugeorgegurugeorge Member Posts: 421 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Wouldn't a new series have to take place after the events in this game?

    Is the game considered canon anyway?
  • tiekosoratiekosora Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    While I would welcome a new series set at pretty much any point, I think a TOS reboot would be the best way to go. Introduce three new actors as the Holy Trinity and focus on the stories that were not told between episodes made in the 60's. No problem referencing back to the encounter with Khan, but no need to retell it.

    I personally liked Enterprise as a series. Through that series we know they can bring TOS up to a more modern look, without compromising the story. And I disagree, I think that old Trek fans like myself would flock to it, if it stayed true to the Trek we have known all our lives.
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  • gholendhorgholendhor Member Posts: 447 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    If a new series comes,I'd like to see "Star Trek Star Fleet Academy" the first 4 years would be based on earth with a huge supporting cast,we could have a web site for the series where we could vote on characters to see who gets to be posted to the newest star fleet experimental ship on year 5.There are many possibilities for interesting story arcs.
  • drajoradrajora Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I am slightly concerned that the current "trend" for TV is darker and grittier, plus origin stories and reboots with big confusing Myth arcs, thanks to BSG, Lost, Breaking Bad and their ilk. Those are apparently what will 'sell well', and make no mistake, Star Trek will be nothing without viewer numbers, and numbers are king in terms of selling advertisements.

    I can think of a couple of potential story areas which might be explored that fit the above scenarios

    #1) Post Breen-attack Earth, set in SF. Basically a DS9 on Earth, a security team helps rebuild Starfleet HQ. Big enemy is Section 31, trying to get its hooks in everywhere. The allegories to 9/11 are just begging to be exploited.

    #2) Post Romulus Destruction. While there might be an Enterprise-F, STO is not considered canon. I doubt we'd follow their adventures. (ie TOS Series had 1701, Movies had 1701-A, TNG had 1701-D, movies had 1701-E). Possibly a reconstruction team in Romulan space, SCE-style mini-arcs. Enemy is naturally the Tal Shiar, but the 'scary' Borg might make a reappearance again.

    #3) A Deep Space Exploration cruiser, kind of like Voyager, but on the edge of the Federation in a different direction. A callback to the TNG series. One can hope, but it'll be challenge to come up with stories that aren't alternating between "weird culture" and next week "negative space wedgie"

    #4) An "Origin Reboot" set after Enterprise but before TOS. Personally I don't think that's such a brilliant idea, but the writers were getting better S4 of ENT. You never know.

    #5) A direct TOS Reboot. New actors for old roles. Carries a gargantuan risk of fan backlash and you run a serious risk of the ENT phenomena where the older ships are more advanced than the newer ones.

    #6) Do a 200-year jump like between TOS and TNG. Watch the Enterprise-J explore the Andromeda Galaxy via a wormhole. Could even have the formation of an "Andromedan Federation" as a central plot point. Would let you channel almost any era you wanted.

    Anyway, these are just some random ideas off the top of my head, and I can almost guarantee that whatever is chosen, assuming the show goes ahead, will not be any of the above points.

    Edit: Spelling.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Post Dominion War era would be a fine setting to begin. As a matter of fact, I say even further past it. Where we can have alot new designs, new uniforms, and even different politics of the Alpha Quadrant.

    A new Star Trek set in such a way would have alot more creative freedom and space to grow into, look different from the TNG/DS9/VOY/Dominion War era shows and movies. And still be able to draw upon the rich history of Star Trek.

    I just can't take remakes of well established, fleshed out characters with different actors anymore. Don't do it with the TOS/TMP crew anymore. Not even the TNG guys. Hell, don't even do it for any of the existing series characters.

    If Star Trek needs to be actually "new" then go all the way. Make it it's own, but at the same time, respect what's been done prior.
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  • philipclaybergphilipclayberg Member Posts: 1,680
    edited October 2013
    Why not have it take place in 2409, then? Plenty of material already available. Have Shevet and Starswordc write the scripts.
  • linyivelinyive Member Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Its too early for another Star Trek series.
  • bronzephantombronzephantom Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Star Trek the FactionNameHere*

    What life is like inside the FactionNameHere*

    *Klingon Empire/Romulan Empire/Breen Confederacy/Cardassian Union/WhatOtherFactionName.
  • tiekosoratiekosora Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Well now that would be an interesting new series, one with Klingons or Cardassians, or even the Romulans as the primary characters. Have interactions with Starfleet on an occasional basis only.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Prequel series? enterprise tell me again how that series turned out
    It was awesome, and died too early. ;)
  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    orangeitis wrote: »
    It was awesome, and died too early. ;)

    exactly it died too early

    prequels dont work they retell a story we already know after the new wears off it gets old fast.

    Its better to go forward then backwards theres alot left to tell in the prime universe we dont need prequels or returds to retell what we already know.
  • daan2006daan2006 Member Posts: 5,346 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    exactly it died too early

    prequels dont work they retell a story we already know after the new wears off it gets old fast.

    Its better to go forward then backwards theres alot left to tell in the prime universe we dont need prequels or returds to retell what we already know.

    that is the whole reason i did not like ST ENT because of the lets go a 150 years before Captain Kirk i dont care for the past unless it a 2 part time travel EP
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  • jorantomalakjorantomalak Member Posts: 7,133 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    daan2006 wrote: »
    that is the whole reason i did not like ST ENT because of the lets go a 150 years before Captain Kirk i dont care for the past unless it a 2 part time travel EP

    couldnt have said it better myself ^^^^^^^^^^
  • brewtolomusbrewtolomus Member Posts: 277
    edited October 2013
    tiekosora wrote: »
    While I would welcome a new series set at pretty much any point, I think a TOS reboot would be the best way to go. Introduce three new actors as the Holy Trinity and focus on the stories that were not told between episodes made in the 60's. No problem referencing back to the encounter with Khan, but no need to retell it.

    I personally liked Enterprise as a series. Through that series we know they can bring TOS up to a more modern look, without compromising the story. And I disagree, I think that old Trek fans like myself would flock to it, if it stayed true to the Trek we have known all our lives.

    Agreed on all points.
  • tiekosoratiekosora Member Posts: 325 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I think that most of you that are opposed to "returds" as it was called, are missing something. When the first of the new Trek movies was announced, and it was revealed that it would be in the TOS era, there was a lot of excitement by us old Trek fans. What lost a lot of people was that it was basically rewriting everything, changing most, of what we knew about Trek and the characters. Kirk as a degenerate bar fly? Uhura and Spock together even at the academy? Checkov as a commissioned officer before the age of 17, when he was introduced on TOS at age 23?

    If there were to be aq reboot done back to TOS, I am pretty sure the vocal majority of fans would be screaming for purity. Trek Prime universe, characters we know as we know them, telling the many stories still out there. Just in the screenplays that were turned down alone, I am sure there are enough episodes for two seasons, and some of them are probably more suited for today's technology than the 60's. I have seen many of the episodes they went back and upgraded to high definition, and they look great in regards to the planets and this ships. Use that, and just slightly modernize the ship interiors.

    And while yes, there is still much of the galaxy left to explore, there is also much not shown being explored from TOS on through TNG.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,009 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    What about a episodic series set in the AGT 25th century, one season lets us accompany a Starfleet vessel at the edges of Federation space, the next season lets us follow a Klingon crew etc.
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  • lterlter Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    If they're doing another Star Trek series, It'll probably be 100-200 years past TNG/DS9/Voy, like TNG was setted after the TOS era. It'll be a good way to clean and start over with the spirit of TOS and TNG, a series of adventures, with a new crew, new captain, new Enterprise, retaining iconic elements but exploring further away.
  • azniadeetazniadeet Member Posts: 1,871 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Why does a new show need a gimmick? Why not just do a next next generation?
  • steamwrightsteamwright Member Posts: 2,820
    edited October 2013
    I don't care what era it is set in (though admittedly, I'd prefer it stay away from the 29th century and the time travel group).

    What I would like to see is stronger family connections. The best we got was DS9 via the Siskos and the O'Briens, and there were some powerful family stories with them. TNG had some amazing stories, such as Family, yet it felt like families were a card to be played, kept at a distance until a clever story could be told, rather than a thought always on the minds of the characters. I've never been in the service, though many, many friends have, and I think the lives of our service personnel should influence the design of the next crew and show. I keep hearing how military in distance war zones keep trying stay in contact with home, and vice-versa, despite the danger and the distance. I'd like stories where the red shirt survived a few episodes, was shown to be someone I could care about, and then when he inevitably died, I get to see the impact on the family back home, too. There should be moments where the father first sees his child, via 3D holography over lightyears (the James T. Kirk birth at the opening of the first JJTrek film had something of this impact) My emotions should be engaged.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that the characters, regardless of species, should feel like real flesh-and-blood people, not just clever set pieces.
  • lookmanohandslookmanohands Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    Original Universe or Abramsverse? Doesnt matter!
    Sequel, Prequel or Reboot? Nobody really cares!
    New characters or new actors playing established characters? Nobody gives a damn!
    This gimmick or that gimmick? Its all the same!



    If they are ever going to make a new Star Trek TV-Show there is only one thing that matters:
    The writers have to have a message, a question, an idea.



    At least every second episode of TOS, TNG and DS9 had something relevant to say. The writers had a question to ask, a puzzle to challenge us with, sometimes a preachy sermon (:rolleyes:), but often something that made us go: "Hey! Not to say that this was totally new, but I have never seen this thought or idea get represented quite this way!"


    They can do whatever the hell they want, as long as they have stories. Nobody cares whether its set in this or that century, wether its about these or those adversaries, empires, politics, make belief BS....

    Either they have a load of good stories or they dont. The rest is just packaging.
  • kriskniveskrisknives Member Posts: 78 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    If they make a new series I, really, really, really don't want to see a reboot. We already have that in the movies and what you can do with new characters, setting, ideas and the like is far greater than what you can do with old characters "reimagined".

    I wouldn't mind if they recycled some material from the aborted new animated series they were working on where an Omega based explosion destroys subspace and splits the federation in half keeping much of the alpha quadrant separated for over 100 years and following the adventures of a scout ship sent out to reestablish contact after subspace finally healed again enough for warp travel. But I wouldn't mind seeing a new direction either. I just hope we see them continue forward with some interesting ideas and continue to evolved the federation, The Romulan Empire, the Klingons, The Cardassian Union etc. etc. I loved how they really did something new with the Klingons in TOS and (to a lesser extent) again with the Cardassian in DS9 and hope they wouldn't just play up the pre-established tropes.
  • hawkwing43hawkwing43 Member Posts: 1,701 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I have a feeling any new Trek Show, will be a reboot of TNG, and it will be placed in JJ Verse. They will get new actors to play the roles, and you will get cameos from the Original cast from time to time. Plus the fact you can switch up the roles a bit from the original storyline. Have Worf in the KDF as a main player, and not on the Enterprise like before. No Crushers on the Ship, have a new doctor play the role. And dare I say it, have a younger Captain Picard this time around. Or Have him as a Fleet Admiral, and William Riker gets the Ship this time out. Again this just opens the door to doing alot of things different, and you have me personally I don't have an issue with that.

    BTW, Trek writer Bob Orci met with CBS about bringing the franchise back to TV.


    http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/10/11/bob-orci-says-hes-had-a-meeting-with-cbs-about-bringing-star-trek-back-to-tv/
  • lazarus51166lazarus51166 Member Posts: 646 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    If a new series comes,I'd like to see "Star Trek Star Fleet Academy" the first 4 years would be based on earth with a huge supporting cast,we could have a web site for the series where we could vote on characters to see who gets to be posted to the newest star fleet experimental ship on year 5.There are many possibilities for interesting story arcs.

    Won't work. You can't have a tv series of any kind with a 'huge supporting cast.' The writing, production and costs make it very unfeasible. As for 'voting' that is absurd. A tv series isn't american idol. Such a series would be dropped by the network faster than a fat guy on a bucket of KFC, due to writing problems leading to lack of viewers.

    That being said, the whole academy thing wouldn't work either. TV series set in schools suffer from a lack of direction when it comes to where the series is supposed to go. Look what happened to boston public
    #3) A Deep Space Exploration cruiser, kind of like Voyager, but on the edge of the Federation in a different direction. A callback to the TNG series. One can hope, but it'll be challenge to come up with stories that aren't alternating between "weird culture" and next week "negative space wedgie"

    Frankly this is the only idea I can see getting anywhere in a prime universe series these days. Mainly because the storylines have been largely played out as far as local space goes. Its mostly a rehash. But it you take it to the edge of known space, you're starting with essentially a blank slate and can make it up as you go as far as writing goes. Something like TOS did

    Though I take it i'm the only one who noticed that CBS explicitly said they weren't interested in a star trek tv series, even on that link that started this discussion? You do know they were talking about a series in general and not a movie universe one, right?
  • felixhexfelixhex Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I have thought about what a new Star Trek series could be like, what I would like. Honestly i would like just about anything. Here are my thoughts...

    1. Set in the future, sometime after Voyager, a new crew on a new Enterprise. Use previous characters to add that feeling of history to ship and crew. For example, kirks relative, etc.

    2. Set at Starfleet Academy. It will follow a group of people. I like this idea because I would like to see Earth attacked in Star Trek. I mean an all out assault by someone old or new. This group is catapulted into this new conflict and we will see Starfleet turned to ashes and eventually be resurected by the now decorated and seasoned officers that we started with.

    3. A whole new ship, name, and crew.

    out of all these my favorite is number 2
  • linyivelinyive Member Posts: 1,086 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    "Star Trek" has already said everything that needed to be said for this generation. Regardless about how fast they put it onto the small screen, the reality is that "Star Trek" needs a good twenty to thirty year hiatus. Its way-way-way too soon for another series.

    If the studio releases a new "Star Trek" series tomorrow, the show will be a hollow and cgi bloated gimmick.

    Patience.
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