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michlo
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Greetings,
please consider changing the way we are addressed. I'm tired of seeing those I interact with calling me "Rear Admiral Upper Half". It is rather silly. Wouldn't "Admiral" be more appropriate?
Cheers.
please consider changing the way we are addressed. I'm tired of seeing those I interact with calling me "Rear Admiral Upper Half". It is rather silly. Wouldn't "Admiral" be more appropriate?
Cheers.
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and to the above poster, oooh, i so hope they add starship away teams soon. that'd add a really high level of epicness to drop out of warp in some missions with a fleet of cruisers next to me. =D
Thank you.
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The Ask Cryptics have pretty much confirmed that the next level cap will have us create our own personal fleet where we can fight with our unused ships. Having lockbox ships and C-Store ships being unused seems like a waste when we can send them out on missions like the duty officer assignments and have them fight with us.
Cryptic could remove the more rediculous ones, such as 'moist', but even if they didn't, no one can see it in any dialog boxes except you.
And I really hope they never promote us to 5 pip Fleet Admirals - I mean seriously - what's next, promoting us to 'President of the Federation' when they raise the level cap after that?
They should have just stopped at the canon 'hero' rank of Captain for everyone. And then had ongoing levels in that, like Captain 60, Captain 70, etc, etc. The 'Admiral' title should have been reserved for Fleet (guild) Leaders.
arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline/#/discussion/1203368/pve-content-a-list-of-gamewide-polishing-pass-suggestions
And the devs have confirmed in the Ask Cryptics that when the level cap increase has occurred, we will be full Admirals were we can control our own fleet. Some of us like commanding a fleet of our own. We are an Admiral so we should like to be able to do Admiral content. This is from November's Ask Cryptic.
"Q: (cbp4964) Will we ever be able to send out bridge officers off on separate missions, or have them accompany us to battle in ships we assign them from our own selection?
Dstahl: We have some pretty awesome plans for when we increase ranks to Admiral level 60 which make good use of your bridge officers, ships, and crew. We ultimately want full Admirals to command their fleets. You?ll have to wait until at least Season 9 to get more details though."
As far as promotions beyond that, there is no possible way to become President of the Federation while still part of Starfleet. Of course, plans could change due to it being unfeasible, but it is simply something I hope I am right and you are wrong and we will see who is right in the years to come. Dan Stahl has mentioned his desire to allow us to become Full Admirals and we are simply playing Cryptic's version of what Star Trek is not your version or my version of what Star Trek is. If Cryptic wants thousands of full Admirals and a Liberated Borg faction, then we will have to deal with it if it is feasible and the majority don't care about it or want it.
Note what it DOES NOT SAY... and that is that these ships will join us in battle. Is it a possibility, sure... but lets not jump to conclusions...
Star Trek Online, Now with out the Trek....
How is it jumping to conclusions? Commanding a fleet means that will fight. There are two types of content that is in that statement. We send our unused ships off on missions similar to the duty officer assignments and we summon our unused ships to help us in combat against some foe. Sure it is possible that only certain maps allow us to summon our fleet like defending Earth from invasion where each teammate can summon their fleet resulting in 25 ships or the fleet summon only lasts a couple of minutes with a 10 minute cooldown.
It is possible that the first step of this system could include the basics of getting our unused ships Fleet ready like deciding which bridge officers to use and which Captain to use for each ship and the duty officer type system while the second step of having the fleet join us in battle and give us an appropriate command system similar to what our away team has. So it is not necessary to have the complete system available when it is initially released.
Ens 10-19
Lt junior grade 20-29
Lcdr 30-39
Cdr 40-49
Capt 50
Fleet capt 60
Commodore 70
Rear admiral 80
Vice adm 90
Adm 100
That would require completely changing the game. Cadet means that we would have to spend a couple of hours at Starfleet Academy. Ensign would mean that we are not in control of the ship, but some npc is. Commodore is a rank that was used a lot in TOS, but only one episode in TNG and even then it was in the past tense by 2364 so it is no longer used.
But honestly, like others have stated; rank should be divorced from level. IMO, we should all be max rank of Captain right now. Rank of Admiral should come in a future Season if/when some sort of fleet action is put out. Or Commodore.
Indeed, the right move would be for Cryptic to alter all the mission text and remove the code tag that automatically references a player's rank (leading to you being addressed as "Rear Admiral Upper Half" etc), and simply replace it with "Captain", because the correct form of address for the commanding officer of a ship is "Captain", regardless of the officer's actual rank. That's what I'm doing for the Foundry series I'm working on, so that's that.
That aside, to reconcile this I've invented a needlessly complicated rationalization in my mind, where everyone's rank is "provisional" (i.e. battlefield promotions), and as such doesn't translate to real authority in Starfleet. Given the level of autonomy your average STO player has, we're all more like privateers rather than members of the rank-and-file.
And this is completely incorrect which is why generalizations are usually wrong. Since I want to be an Admiral and control a fleet of ships, then your statement is invalid. "No one should be an Admiral" is an opinion that some agree with. More would agree with it if it is a choice of commanding a ship or being stuck behind a desk where mission rewards are getting a more comfortable chair and a bigger desk.
As the game is currently, there is no difference between any rank. Admiral content where you can send ships out on missions similar to duty officer assignments and help fight with you in combat would actually give some needed depth to the game. The worst thing IMO about this game besides no missions on the ship and very few non-combat missions is that people spend $25 and above for a ship and it just collects dust at the shipyard because something cooler came along. Being able to have these unused ships fight with you or able to send them on missions would make them not seem like a waste.
Rank should be determined through our titles, but only some titles should be used. There are just some titles that should not be used as rank.
It is too late for that since the Admiral ranks are already in the game and people expect Admiral content for being an Admiral. People don't like forced demotions for their characters. The ranks are already screwed up since Lieutenants are commanding decent sized ships which should be only for people at a higher rank.
What the devs should do is add the Admiral title for getting to level 60, but have a person's rank associated to certain titles. Could add the Fleet Captain title as a reward for getting to level 60 as well. So once a person is level 30, they can select the Captain rank and stay there or they could choose something like Master Chef, Diplomat, Master Explorer, or any other title that sounds like a possible rank.
actually there are historical examples of junior officers commanding vessels Ens and LtJG (O-2) often commanded patrol boats in the USN in Vietnam. LT's commanded PT boats and sometimes submarines in ww2. DE's were commanded by Lts and LCDRs, as were fleet subs. LCDRs and junior commanders skippered destroyers. you did not see a captain command a ship till you got to Cruisers and carriers. (still that way)