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capemike4capemike4 Member Posts: 394 Arc User
edited October 2013 in The Academy
Well, I finally made it to 50 on my 1st character...yay, me! :D

Several levels back, I picked up a Reman Prototype Covariant Shield...; in addition to being quite nice and making my ship look pretty neat, it seems to be part of a 3-piece 'set', which will grant bonus stuff I can find the other 2 pieces.

As I understand it, and please correct me if I'm wrong, gaining reputation with the Romulans will allow me to acquire the other 2, correct? If so, am I further correct in assuming the 'Romulan Marks' I've started earning on some missions(after talking to a Romulan ambassador in ESD) are the key to this?

I'd really like to complete the set before I finish the main storylines, and any help anyone can give is greatly appreciated...thanks! :)
When in doubt...Gravity Well TO THE FACE!! :D
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  • hasukurobihasukurobi Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    capemike4 wrote: »
    Well, I finally made it to 50 on my 1st character...yay, me! :D

    Several levels back, I picked up a Reman Prototype Covariant Shield...; in addition to being quite nice and making my ship look pretty neat, it seems to be part of a 3-piece 'set', which will grant bonus stuff I can find the other 2 pieces.

    As I understand it, and please correct me if I'm wrong, gaining reputation with the Romulans will allow me to acquire the other 2, correct? If so, am I further correct in assuming the 'Romulan Marks' I've started earning on some missions(after talking to a Romulan ambassador in ESD) are the key to this?

    I'd really like to complete the set before I finish the main storylines, and any help anyone can give is greatly appreciated...thanks! :)

    You are correct on both counts BUT the Romulan/Reman sets are pretty bad sets to use.
  • gofasternowgofasternow Member Posts: 1,390 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    capemike4 wrote: »
    Well, I finally made it to 50 on my 1st character...yay, me! :D

    Several levels back, I picked up a Reman Prototype Covariant Shield...; in addition to being quite nice and making my ship look pretty neat, it seems to be part of a 3-piece 'set', which will grant bonus stuff I can find the other 2 pieces.

    As I understand it, and please correct me if I'm wrong, gaining reputation with the Romulans will allow me to acquire the other 2, correct? If so, am I further correct in assuming the 'Romulan Marks' I've started earning on some missions(after talking to a Romulan ambassador in ESD) are the key to this?

    I'd really like to complete the set before I finish the main storylines, and any help anyone can give is greatly appreciated...thanks! :)

    Yeah, like hasukurobi said, Reman Prototype Set isn't the best. Looks pretty, but it's probably better with Romulan gear than anything else, if that. Now, the Jem'Hadar set that you get with the Cardassian Struggle storyline, that's a whole lot better, as is the Adapted Borg Mk X which you get from Omega Task Force line.
  • capemike4capemike4 Member Posts: 394 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I'm actually working my way through the Cardassian Struggle storyline now...I'll have to keep a lookout for that.... :)
    When in doubt...Gravity Well TO THE FACE!! :D
  • turbomagnusturbomagnus Member Posts: 3,479 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    It's ironic really; except for the Borg set, the two 'free' space gear sets you get just by playing (and replaying) the "2800" and "Cold War" (is that the name?), anyway, the Dominion and Breen Featured Episode series are pretty much better than most of the sets you have to work for... (especially the crafting Aegis set...)
    "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross; but it's not for the timid." -- Q, TNG: "Q-Who?"
    ^Words that every player should keep in mind, especially whenever there's a problem with the game...
  • mandoknight89mandoknight89 Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    It's ironic really; except for the Borg set, the two 'free' space gear sets you get just by playing (and replaying) the "2800" and "Cold War" (is that the name?), anyway, the Dominion and Breen Featured Episode series are pretty much better than most of the sets you have to work for... (especially the crafting Aegis set...)

    The Dominion set needs 200 Lobi (and preferably Polaron weapons and one of those oh-so-expensive Dominion ships) to compete, and the Breen set is simply left in the dust if you're not running a Transphasic bomber, partly due to not having a Mk XII version.

    The MACO shield is a top contender (IIRC, it's equivalent to [Cap]x3 [Pla] with a power proc and +10% all energy resist on top, rivaling Fleet shields but losing out if you can fit in a Plasmonic Leech console), and both the MACO and KHG set bonuses have their uses (as well as having decent stats to the gear itself). Borg Engine/Deflector and MACO or Elite Fleet shield is fairly popular, at least last I checked.
  • yiweitechyiweitech Member Posts: 122 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I suggest you use the Jem Hadar set running polaron (cheapest on the exchange AND benefits from the Jem set) weapons until you unlock the Omega reputation system. Before jumping into endless hours of grinding, you should go ahead and complete the storyline, some pretty neat stuff there. I used the Jem set as an in-between until I got my Rep set (Mk XII M.A.C.O. Shields + Deflector, Mk XII Adapted M.A.C.O. Engines, worked very nicely, the deflector was pretty bad but the bonus and everything is good, the antiproton sweep is good for the scimitar in Khitomer Vortex and other cloaked ships. All the other reward sets don't even compare.
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  • zordar01zordar01 Member Posts: 318
    edited October 2013
    The Jem set is made for sci. The deflector is worth using just to get the 2-piece polaron boost, but it's a boon for a sci captain.
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  • shurato2099shurato2099 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I'd been debating mixing and matching between the two MACO sets, myself.

    Adapted MACO Deflector and Covarient Shields + regular MACO engines for the Asynchronous Warp field.

    Viable?
  • capemike4capemike4 Member Posts: 394 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    yiweitech wrote: »
    I suggest you use the Jem Hadar set running polaron (cheapest on the exchange AND benefits from the Jem set) weapons until you unlock the Omega reputation system. Before jumping into endless hours of grinding, you should go ahead and complete the storyline, some pretty neat stuff there. I used the Jem set as an in-between until I got my Rep set (Mk XII M.A.C.O. Shields + Deflector, Mk XII Adapted M.A.C.O. Engines, worked very nicely, the deflector was pretty bad but the bonus and everything is good, the antiproton sweep is good for the scimitar in Khitomer Vortex and other cloaked ships. All the other reward sets don't even compare.

    As I'm a Free member for the foreseeable future(stupid unemployment), I'm having to go pretty much with whatever presents itself 1st and is the most efficient 'bang for the buck'...; the Reman set did so 1st, and I figured it'd give me a nice intro to 'set' collecting.

    Keep in mind I'm also still a new player...barely 2 weeks in, so I still don't quite get a lot of things, especially post-50, as a world of new options have opened up; especially in PvE queues! :)

    Grinding is something I'm not normally fond of, but if it becomes necessary, then I guess a bit won't hurt too much...still, it's nice knowing I've got options!

    p.s.: I'm admittedly disappointed that I didn't get another ship upon reaching 50, but my current Science ship will suffice for the time being...actually managed to scare up about 70-75 Zen via exchanging the Dil I'd earned, and am hoping I'll be able to have enough Zen before too long for a better Science ship....
    When in doubt...Gravity Well TO THE FACE!! :D
  • yiweitechyiweitech Member Posts: 122 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    zordar01 wrote: »
    The Jem set is made for sci. The deflector is worth using just to get the 2-piece polaron boost, but it's a boon for a sci captain.

    I agree, but it's an amazing set for escorts. The crew bracing works really well to keep your crew alive, surprising as all the Jem'Hadar in the show seem to die a couple seconds into combat... Anyway, it's best for escorts, and decent for cruisers, but sci is pretty bad.
    Exia@yiweitech
    U.S.S. Omega
    Assimilation is Futile

    Nimoy's Task Force
  • yiweitechyiweitech Member Posts: 122 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    I'd been debating mixing and matching between the two MACO sets, myself.

    Adapted MACO Deflector and Covarient Shields + regular MACO engines for the Asynchronous Warp field.

    Viable?

    Go right ahead, I'd actually go with the opposite, as I personally find the stats better, the heavy graviton beam is very useful, but trust me, you're never going to use the regular MACO engine. By the time you can get a MACO set, the only way you will travel is via Quantum Slipstream and Transwarp, and you will stay at ESD next to the exchange console for 99% of your game time, the warp 12 really isn't worth it compared to the AMACO engine.
    Exia@yiweitech
    U.S.S. Omega
    Assimilation is Futile

    Nimoy's Task Force
  • yiweitechyiweitech Member Posts: 122 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    capemike4 wrote: »
    As I'm a Free member for the foreseeable future(stupid unemployment), I'm having to go pretty much with whatever presents itself 1st and is the most efficient 'bang for the buck'...; the Reman set did so 1st, and I figured it'd give me a nice intro to 'set' collecting.

    Keep in mind I'm also still a new player...barely 2 weeks in, so I still don't quite get a lot of things, especially post-50, as a world of new options have opened up; especially in PvE queues! :)

    Grinding is something I'm not normally fond of, but if it becomes necessary, then I guess a bit won't hurt too much...still, it's nice knowing I've got options!

    p.s.: I'm admittedly disappointed that I didn't get another ship upon reaching 50, but my current Science ship will suffice for the time being...actually managed to scare up about 70-75 Zen via exchanging the Dil I'd earned, and am hoping I'll be able to have enough Zen before too long for a better Science ship....

    Definitely get the Jem set if that's the case, it's a solid set throughout the game. Seeing how you're a new player, I'll do some shameless self promotion XD, check out my Tips of the Day thread here, I think you'll find it helpful. The lack of organization is getting out-of-hand, but I'll do something about it soon... The best PvE are definitely the Elite STFs, they are very difficult, but you can find good guides online for beating them, and practice makes perfect and they reward very handsomely. By the time you finish grinding your way through T5 of the Omega reputation, you have enough dilithium to buy most endgame (Just go for Mk XII, don't bother with the Mk X or XIs) gear.

    Grinding is definitely tiresome and essential for anything good, the only way for Cryptic to make money, after all...

    Yeah, the ships you get, or rather, don't get, are very disappointing, and you'll find yourself wanting fleet ships very soon, tons of grinding, but definitely worth it.
    Exia@yiweitech
    U.S.S. Omega
    Assimilation is Futile

    Nimoy's Task Force
  • capemike4capemike4 Member Posts: 394 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    yiweitech wrote: »
    Definitely get the Jem set if that's the case, it's a solid set throughout the game. Seeing how you're a new player, I'll do some shameless self promotion XD, check out my Tips of the Day thread here, I think you'll find it helpful. The lack of organization is getting out-of-hand, but I'll do something about it soon... The best PvE are definitely the Elite STFs, they are very difficult, but you can find good guides online for beating them, and practice makes perfect and they reward very handsomely. By the time you finish grinding your way through T5 of the Omega reputation, you have enough dilithium to buy most endgame (Just go for Mk XII, don't bother with the Mk X or XIs) gear.

    Grinding is definitely tiresome and essential for anything good, the only way for Cryptic to make money, after all...

    Yeah, the ships you get, or rather, don't get, are very disappointing, and you'll find yourself wanting fleet ships very soon, tons of grinding, but definitely worth it.

    I've actually been reading that page as of late.... :)

    Had a few last second(or near-last second, at least) saves in a PvE queue earlier...was the one where you have to save some freighters, then repair 3 facilities, all while fighting off the baddies in space...; managed to target an ally in trouble, get in range, then use Extend Shields and help repair his shields in the process...one ally had lost practically all his shields and was down to something like 43% hull strength...he survived.... :D

    Saving allies from certain doom like that, and then bunch up the enemies with Gravity Well for said allies to shred them just gives me a warm, happy feeling of accomplishment...not bad for a Science Vice Admiral newbie and a Science ship, eh? :D
    When in doubt...Gravity Well TO THE FACE!! :D
  • shurato2099shurato2099 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    yiweitech wrote: »
    Go right ahead, I'd actually go with the opposite, as I personally find the stats better, the heavy graviton beam is very useful, but trust me, you're never going to use the regular MACO engine. By the time you can get a MACO set, the only way you will travel is via Quantum Slipstream and Transwarp, and you will stay at ESD next to the exchange console for 99% of your game time, the warp 12 really isn't worth it compared to the AMACO engine.

    Yeah, the AMACO engines are pretty good for power levels and as a SCI captain the two-piece AMACO bonus is even better for my AUX levels.
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,942 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    capemike4 wrote: »
    As I'm a Free member for the foreseeable future(stupid unemployment), I'm having to go pretty much with whatever presents itself 1st and is the most efficient 'bang for the buck'...; the Reman set did so 1st, and I figured it'd give me a nice intro to 'set' collecting.

    Keep in mind I'm also still a new player...barely 2 weeks in, so I still don't quite get a lot of things, especially post-50, as a world of new options have opened up; especially in PvE queues! :)

    Grinding is something I'm not normally fond of, but if it becomes necessary, then I guess a bit won't hurt too much...still, it's nice knowing I've got options!

    p.s.: I'm admittedly disappointed that I didn't get another ship upon reaching 50, but my current Science ship will suffice for the time being...actually managed to scare up about 70-75 Zen via exchanging the Dil I'd earned, and am hoping I'll be able to have enough Zen before too long for a better Science ship....

    You can buy pretty much any sci ship on the exchange except the c stores if you insist on science, farm dil sell to zen and get the vesta.
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  • yiweitechyiweitech Member Posts: 122 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    You can buy pretty much any sci ship on the exchange except the c stores if you insist on science, farm dil sell to zen and get the vesta.

    To clarify, he meant mirror universe ships
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  • capemike4capemike4 Member Posts: 394 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    yiweitech wrote: »
    To clarify, he meant mirror universe ships

    Speaking of that, I've seen a LOT of Mirror Universe ships on the exchange for stunningly low prices...20-30k EC...they're either not very good, or the drops are frighteningly common, is what I originally assumed...would any of the Science ships be of any use to me, or should I keep trying to scrounge up Zen when/where I can via Dil trading?
    When in doubt...Gravity Well TO THE FACE!! :D
  • lordfuzunlordfuzun Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    capemike4 wrote: »
    p.s.: I'm admittedly disappointed that I didn't get another ship upon reaching 50, but my current Science ship will suffice for the time being...actually managed to scare up about 70-75 Zen via exchanging the Dil I'd earned, and am hoping I'll be able to have enough Zen before too long for a better Science ship....

    Don't worry the C-Store ships or Lockbox ships. The Free T5 Science ship you currently have is all you need for end game. The "better" ships aren't really that much better. There have a lot of gimmicks but they aren't required for the end game. My first character I created in the Head start of the game used a Recon Science Vessel for nearly all of the game. I did everything at end game in that ship. I did the end game grind to get all of it's AP weapons. I ran the old STFs and the new STFs to get my Mk X Borg Space set. I can do anything on that ship.

    The only reason I stopped using the ship is because I got bored with the character because I played her so much. I had to get a new ship to make playing the character interesting again. But I still have the Luna Class Recon ships ready to be taken up again. In fact I may do that soon as I'm starting to miss the old girl.
  • lordfuzunlordfuzun Member Posts: 54 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    capemike4 wrote: »
    Speaking of that, I've seen a LOT of Mirror Universe ships on the exchange for stunningly low prices...20-30k EC...they're either not very good, or the drops are frighteningly common, is what I originally assumed...would any of the Science ships be of any use to me, or should I keep trying to scrounge up Zen when/where I can via Dil trading?

    The reason the ships are so cheap is market supply/demand force. Way too much supply. The ship themselves are just fine. Once of my level 50 uses a Mirror Assault cruiser because I've got the Nomad class ship skin. I use them on the cruiser with the Mirror U colors. I love that ship skin.
  • capemike4capemike4 Member Posts: 394 Arc User
    edited October 2013
    lordfuzun wrote: »
    The reason the ships are so cheap is market supply/demand force. Way too much supply. The ship themselves are just fine. Once of my level 50 uses a Mirror Assault cruiser because I've got the Nomad class ship skin. I use them on the cruiser with the Mirror U colors. I love that ship skin.

    So, would you personally recommend any of the Mirror Science ships? I'd like to try one of them...feel free to toss me a message or mail in-game! :)
    When in doubt...Gravity Well TO THE FACE!! :D
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