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Gorn Phalanx in Elite STF
thissler
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQoUs40SsKw&feature=youtu.be
What the title says. Of course at that level the ship was very repair heavy. That's fine. I've never been in an Elite PUG that had a surplus of cross healing going on.
In any case this was done specifically because it was stated that it COULDN'T be done.
Shuttles have been used. So anyway. More to the point.
Being in a top class ship doesn't make a top class player. A good understanding of the ship basics is where you start.
ANYONE can do that. ANYONE can do this. So anyone can enjoy all the nice endgame content that STO offers.
And THAT is what this is about. Getting away from the "I need elite gear or elite ships or elite blah blah blah" mindset. Or even worse.....
Telling OTHERS that THEY need elite gear, weapons, ships, blah blah blah.
Because they certainly don't. If they want to come in your sandbox and play, it's O.K.
Cheers and enjoy! Take it for what it is.
What the title says. Of course at that level the ship was very repair heavy. That's fine. I've never been in an Elite PUG that had a surplus of cross healing going on.
In any case this was done specifically because it was stated that it COULDN'T be done.
Shuttles have been used. So anyway. More to the point.
Being in a top class ship doesn't make a top class player. A good understanding of the ship basics is where you start.
ANYONE can do that. ANYONE can do this. So anyone can enjoy all the nice endgame content that STO offers.
And THAT is what this is about. Getting away from the "I need elite gear or elite ships or elite blah blah blah" mindset. Or even worse.....
Telling OTHERS that THEY need elite gear, weapons, ships, blah blah blah.
Because they certainly don't. If they want to come in your sandbox and play, it's O.K.
Cheers and enjoy! Take it for what it is.
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My only concern is that some players may start considering using lower tier vessels and joining PUG matches. Combined with lack of knowledge regarding how to actually do the STFs I can see a lot of new players going "boom" very quickly. I can also see the sheer amount of abuse that less tolerant individuals might throw around team chat. I don't condone that behaviour but we all know it happens.
Might I suggest you add a disclaimer saying: This is for fun only, make sure if using low tier ships you are doing it within a privately organised STF.
Its fair to say you could probably get away with it in normal PUGs providing you know what you're doing but in Elites that would cause serious issues with underpowered ships running around. I'm not trying to be an elitist here but there is a certain amount of DPS you should be bringing to an elite STF so your team doesn't end up doing most of the work.
As a side note the Phalanx barrier console is quite useful in Infected when things go awry. It can certainly block the path of nanite probes/spheres. Still better to use it on a higher tier ship. Theres plenty of cheap Mirror Universe ships on the exchange people can use at VA level that would serve you better than a Commander Tier 3 vessel.
"You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon, taH pagh, taH be"
So anyways watch it again, it seems you missed a bit.
And those are elites in the vids. And yes you do need to bring some DPS. CC and Debuffing and Repairing all contribute to team damage. So there you go, there's your added damage vs someone that say, brings an escort and just plinks away with beams.
Beyond that, people already do bring low tier ships into PUGs. If someone actually does watch the vid, and chooses to take some of the actual Budget Build videos and use them they'll be fine. The PUGs will be fine. STO won't break, I promise.
You aren't being Elitist, you're being misinformed. I can PROMISE you I was in many Elite STF's (the EASY ONE) with top tier ships, lock box ships, all being useless. No CC, destroying targets out of turn, or just generally sucking and getting themselves blown up.
It isn't the ship or the gear, it is the knowledge, and that is what those vids are about. It's gonna be OK!!
EDIT: I added MORE disclaimers. Hope that helps!
Hey no fair I did watch it properly.:P It just flashed up and said "heres my Tier 3 vessel, now lets take it into Elite STFs". Plus at no point did you say "Make sure you know what you're getting into before trying this in a public game".
The other point about being an asset and not a hindrance that flashes up only occurs if you actually know what you're doing. You clearly do, many don't. So as to my reasoning for what I said I'm sticking too.
lol. I'm not misinformed at all thank you but I won't take that remark seriously.:P I'm well aware of inexperienced players rushing into Elite STFs in their brand new shiny Scimitars with questionable gear builds and going boom very quickly. Its not the ships, its the captains.
I hope you're right but if I go into my next STF and 4 other players are running Phalanx vessels and still make a mess of things then I'll blame you because you said it would be ok.
Yeah it does. Besides you're the one who corrupted my Orion Tac into using a fleet K'tinga. She simply won't go near an escort now.:)
"You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon, taH pagh, taH be"
That won't go well, tis true!
The misinformed bit is about DPS. And don't feel poorly. You may actually UNDERSTAND it completely. But when you say DPS others may not know that each and every action inside of an event can be converted to a DPS value. That's really why DPS was initially used. It is a convention whereby otherwise disparate things can be compared with a relative value.
So when I use GW to cluster probes, thats a multiplier on my Torpedo Spread. It is also a slow. That increases the amount of time that the team has to do the required damage. So in both cases I've increased damage done.
So again you may know that from having experience, but a brand new player may not. They may think DPS is a straight up bit of info off the tooltips.
"I'm not trying to be an elitist here but there is a certain amount of DPS you should be bringing to an elite STF "
That's the ONLY bit you said I was referring to. A new player may not fully understand all the ways to bring DPS to the fight so when they see that they may feel put off or go down the wrong road of button mashing.
PS: I like that sig! And ty for commenting, make sure you comment on the channel!!
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- Anne Bredon
The other day in a pug infected cure i was in a group where our total dps output was around 15k (i was at 6k and the rest of the group was 4k,2k,2k and less then 1k) we still completed the optional with 90 seconds to spare. Pretty much if you every person does at least 3k dps and does things like protect the kang or control nanite spheres you can get the optional.
With a organized group i bet you could go as low as tier 2 escorts and still get the optional.
Things like fleet ships and uber powered c-store ships like the scimitar are never needed for pve at best they will cut a couple minutes off a estf.
Wonderful job.
Dreadnought class. Two times the size, three times the speed. Advanced weaponry. Modified for a minimal crew. Unlike most Federation vessels, it's built solely for combat.
Elite STFs are a test of using your buffs, and having a sound ship. You don't need tho have any MK XII peices to have a sound ship, altho, things are less stressy for you if you have them. But things get very stressy when you find out that you hadn't properly braced your hull... or set up strong enough shields... or haven't prepared for a serious deck ablaze. Point is: Top-end equipment NOT required; Anti-borg preparations ARE required.
I'm not sure why you're posting this. I mean this message is what almost the entirety of my channel is about.
So I'm hoping what you mean is "oh heck I agree".
Anyways cheers and happy flying! Go comment on my damn channel, give the place some life:eek:
I like the way you think.
The Gorn in the Plastic Bubble!:D
Heck, let's give both consoles a Set Bonus that makes a field capable of blocking Thalaron Blasts and Borg Plasma Bolt Torps from the Unimatrix ships.
EDIT: Of course this would come at the expense of Weapon and Auxiliary Power.
Myself with 7 others flying B'Rel Bird of Prey's and two people flying Vo'Quv Carriers with B'Rel Pets, we've curb stomped ESTFs.
You can even get away with flying a full wing of Lietenant level B'Rels easily without vo'quv carriers even.
Just a matter of how coordinated you are as a strike force and calling targets/engaging targets together.
Quad Disruptor Cannon
Advanced Fleet Disruptor Dual Heavy Cannon (DMG 3 Acc)
complete borg set including cutting beam except for the Torpedo.
Standard mk 10 warp core, and then a disruptor energy damage increasing device.
I have to Engineer officers and 1 Sci BOff.
all for shield rebuilds.
I play this for the sake of fun. And I take it into all STFs mainly Elite STFs, and never have issues contributing to the team.
It's not the ship, it's the equipment you use.
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