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willamsheridan
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Hi I am thinking about buying the Bortasqu Pack but need some advice. I know that its relatively rare ingame (compared to odysseys) and so i was thinking is the Turnrate to slow (from 9? in the Negh Var to 5.5) and are cannons and the Consoles effective enough for the price.
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I recently went from a Mirror Vo'quv to a Jem'Hadar Dreadnought Carrier. I use(d) DHCs on both of them without too much of a problem. Just keep engine batteries and evasive maneuvers handy. I also use Attack Pattern: Omega and Deuterium Surplus to make up for my lesser maneuverability. Also, consider using Auxiliary power to inertial dampeners for some extra turn rate plus some damage resist.
In PvE, enemies are rather predictable, so keeping them in your 45-degree arc is easy once you get used to being slower than average.
If you are having issues with the turn rate, go with single cannons or a full beam boat.
KDF Tac: Bortasqu' Tactical
Fed Tac: Fleet Gal-X
Keep those big guns a-thunderin'
i bought the three pack when it became available. if i were able to i would happily give them to you. it was very slow to do anything; turn, start/stop, etc, despite a proper spec, rcs, aux2damp and whatnot. it was a pretty miserable experience. imo id rather fly a freebie bop than a borty again.
but it has also occurred to me that i havent tried to use a borty since the rcs-console buff, let alone the fleet mine consoles. so who knows? maybe it doesnt need to be as bad as i remember.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erPP8gt4X7M&list=TL5BxXq1CpvPI Long ago Bortasqu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkw-h3boACc&list=TLNT6ZL1Z93TY Very recent.
Very good ship for PVE
The damage output is decent along with the proc's from the weapons although it doesn't seem very Klingon with beams the autocannon every 3 minutes is the basic klingon you can get out of it lol.
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IMO the other ships like the Negh and whatnot are fare better and much more effective.
The Bort was just a bad concept when it was introduced, IMO. NOW, with recent advancements and introductions of all the new super escorts and all the Rom ships there is no reason EVER to pay for the Bort. It's just a leftover ship from a previous age of this game.
That's my editorial on the ship. Save your money.
I'll set my terrible bort up and 1v1 your Fed your Fed cruiser when I get back from work or later this week if you want. Shouldn't be a challenge for you if you think its so bad.
There's just something that makes the Bortas a terrible ship to play. It's hard to define. Otherwise it's a decent, solid, ship -- but its the worst of the lot. Every other ship does the job better. It's just not worth the money.
First, try it out on Tribble. Don't drop $50 on a ship people either love or hate.
Second, on the Bort beams are easy. Cannons are tricky but doable, but you need to focus a lot more on piloting. Have an idea about where you're going to need to be and avoid wallowing about (and the Bort is great at wallowing). Reverse is your friend here.
The autocannon console is nice. The snare is good but in a pug you have to be careful not to TRIBBLE up your teammates alphas. Just be mindful. Not sure about the pet. I heard it sucked but recently got a buff, so I need to mess around with it.
Good vids.
____They tank the borg well in PVE and can do good damage. Since your targets are fixed and/or you know exactly where & how they'll move, they're easy to keep under the guns.
____I don't use RCS consoles, I focus on dmg output and surviving one on one & nose to nose with a cube. (And sticking in as close to a gate as possible for as long as possible.) You can use Doff's to reduce your EM cooldown if you really feel you need it. (I don't have purple ones, a few green or blue is good enough.)
____I have very little PVP experience. But in that time, they pretty well sucked at PVP. I tried to make a beam boat with very little success. But I didn't have many of the rare consoles or fleet equipment that help create a top notch beam tank. So that may just be me. The bort is so big and slow it seems like the entire other team targets it first and then moves on to your teammates once you're dead.
____I bought all three, but atm I don't use the bort consoles. I am intending to build the tactical one with all dual heavy fleet distruptors plus the quad cannon as a bonus, but for general use, you don't need them.
____The ship you can send out doesn't do any damage, doesn't fly very smart, dies quickly, and has a long cooldown.
____The snare has too long a cooldown to be of any real use. Tractor beams work just as well and you can use them a LOT more often.
____Also, the BOFF layout is very limited. You can achieve exactly the same BOFF layout with either of the three ships. (depending on what you're trying to do) So it's really all about the consoles you have access to.
____I wish I had done this before I ground out enough dilithium to buy 2500 zen. I have to admit that my first attempts to fly the bort were so disappointing that I wished I'd bought the fleet B'rel instead. (same cost in zen) But now that I've gotten input here on the forums, I'm earning upper tier rewards in PVE's and I can survive my suicidal tendencies without a lot of difficulty.
P.S. I wouldn't pay real $$ for them. It takes a long time to grind out the dilith to get them free, but If I'd actually bought them and then had to work this hard to make them playable I'd have to...
and then I'd...
and they'd be cleaning up their...
for months...
And it probably would have made the news.
If you got a Tac Officer, no ship will even come close to the destructive power you have. I love mine immensly. No ship is better.
It's even funner obliterating the Scimitar and Oddyssy pilots. Neither even compare to the Bort.
You should introduce him to an entire array of dual heavy cannons. For a ship that's slow, the Bort has no issues keeping something like an Odyssy in its crosshairs. I've destroyed 82 Odds now, including 22 Scimitars, I've yet to be destroyed by either.
Dreads are, however, quite different. Thanks to their carrier pets :rolleyes:
With STO ships, it is the very epitome that you either truly love this ship / ship pack, or despise it to no end. The more common opinion is that more hate this ship (it's there in the plethora of hateful posts about this ship). Go into First City Zone Chat or whatever channel and ask for opinions on the Bortasqu'. You'll get some colorful words.
I have misgivings with this ship, but it can be built to be quite nasty. But if you know how to handle slow handling ships and do not mind that at all, then you have overcome the first major detractor of this ship.
I have issues also with most of the consoles of the Bortasqu' pack. I question most of their usefulness, though the Disruptor Autocannon rocks, but is stuck on a very slow turning ship. The 2 piece bonus is laughable, most notably the increase of... hold on tight now... an increase of 0.5 to your turn rate!
WHEWWWWW!!!!!
Its a good pve ship and I liked it but there are simply better ships than this one. I mean if it got a buff or the console set bonus gets reworked then itd be better. And if you do buy it only buy one not the pack because also contrary to benovide's belief the 3 consoles are not a god mode for the ship.
On different note, if you want a similar ship --pending you were intending to put a Tac in the Uni Lt. Comm of the Bortasqu' -- but much faster, try the Fleet Tor'Kaht. It lacks the toys and has the console layout of the Command Cruiser(instead of the 5 Tac console layout of the War variant), but getting DHCs on target is so much easier than the Bortasqu' while still retaining quite a bit of tankiness. The Tor'kaht can also be made into a fully canon Vor'cha ship in the ship tailor if something like that interests you.