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Hive Elite

jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
edited September 2013 in Federation Discussion
Ok so how messed is this still

Stay nr queen Boom
Fly under them Boom..

Anyone else found this almost impossible to do

Oh and i was less than 1KM away from it and it lanced me!! yer ok WHATEVER!
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  • shurato2099shurato2099 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    We were having some problems with the normal version today as well. Getting lanced from both sides while close to the Queen and I got hit with something that knocked me from ~1km from the Queen to over 5km below ship 1. Did the Borg get TBR all of a sudden?
  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I don't get it. . When did they get Feedback Pulse also
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  • shurato2099shurato2099 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    jam3s1701 wrote: »
    I don't get it. . When did they get Feedback Pulse also

    Feeback Pulse is one that I've seen before from some of the probes before, not very often but I've seen it.
  • theuser2021theuser2021 Member Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    They fixed the Hive like they fixed hangar pet AI :rolleyes:. After reading the patch notes my friends and I decided to give the Hive a try. I was right on top of the queen, I even checked my bar to see that I had the under the guns buff, and I still got lazored!! I like a challenge as much as the next guy, but this just amounts to hitting your head against a brick wall.
  • macroniusmacronius Member Posts: 2,526
    edited September 2013
    I was looking forward to trying this again. I guess I shouldn't surprised that TRIBBLE-tic failed again. Too bad as it was one fun mission.
    "With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

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  • kintishokintisho Member Posts: 1,040 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Im still offline (about 2 weeks now) for PC repair, but HSE is possible (hive space elite) just heavily annoying 1HK all day, the Devs have repeatedly "fixed" this mission but yes they typically just make matters even worse if you can see that...
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    well, did they at least fix the infinite lance distance?
  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    deaftravis05 wrote: »
    well, did they at least fix the infinite lance distance?

    yer this has been fixed but the other issue hasn't by the looks of it lol
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  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    Then it's back to pre-lor.
  • jam3s1701jam3s1701 Member Posts: 1,825 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I completed this lots pre LOR and i can tell u it isnt lol

    I wish it was thou i love this b4 the mess up :-(
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  • eurialoeurialo Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I tried it today...

    The lace one shotted all of us several time, using ACT we notice from 200k damage up to 600k!!!! :eek: No matter how many armor or defensive buff you have, it's too much.

    also FBP is a bit too strong.
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  • porchsongporchsong Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    No offense guys, but Hive Elite (HSE) is really not that hard. In fact, we wiped it out in 3:02 minutes of playtime.

    http://www.twitch.tv/ryansto/c/2888357

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  • eurialoeurialo Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    porchsong wrote: »
    No offense guys, but Hive Elite (HSE) is really not that hard. In fact, we wiped it out in 3:02 minutes of playtime.

    http://www.twitch.tv/ryansto/c/2888357

    Porch Song

    yes, HSE is not so hard, it's the lance that is overpowered.


    and about your timing, I can't see the video but I know there are some op builds... so I do not wonder!
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    Playing STO spamming FAW is like playing chess using always the computer's suggested moves
  • nithanathnithanath Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    eurialo wrote: »
    it's the lance that is overpowered.

    The lance is supposed to kill you. What do you expect? It does not matter if it hits with 600k or a million. Or do you want to build a space-brick cruiser and tank the lance shots?

    The conditions where the lance cannot target you ("under the guns", etc.) should work though. Maybe a dev could confirm that they do and that they have tested it.

    An animation that shows you that you are targeted by the lance and that you have to take immediate action or you will die would be cool. Something similar to the ground version.

    And even Ryan in his "op build" dies. But I see no tears in his eyes...
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  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    nithanath wrote: »
    The conditions where the lance cannot target you ("under the guns", etc.) should work though. Maybe a dev could confirm that they do and that they have tested it.

    To re-iterate the point which you have missed:

    The lance was patched with the aim to not be able to target you when beyond 20km, cloaked or at full impulse. It would also traditionally not target you when close to the Queen.

    None of these conditions now apply. Unimatrixes will now hit you with 100k+ whenever their bugged AI feels like it. There is no skill involved in this. Boasting with some faceroll PvE video changes nothing.
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  • bridgernbridgern Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    I played the mission after it was fixed with the last patch both space and ground were working absolutely fine.
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  • eurialoeurialo Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    nithanath wrote: »
    The lance is supposed to kill you. What do you expect? It does not matter if it hits with 600k or a million. Or do you want to build a space-brick cruiser and tank the lance shots?


    The problem is that when the vessels start firing the lance, it's like a BFaW... not always they start to do so, but when they start it's like that. Moreover you can try to reach the queen's ship at full impulse, but if something shot at you then the second hit is the lance. IMHO all the mission should be harder, but not because of things like a instant kill weapon.

    The conditions where the lance cannot target you ("under the guns", etc.) should work though. Maybe a dev could confirm that they do and that they have tested it.

    yes, it works (at least 99%). The problem is some camera behaviour but most often if you are hit while FI, often you receive the lance too.
    And even Ryan in his "op build" dies. But I see no tears in his eyes...

    my answers was about the timing only... because his post was like "It's easy because I can do ii in 3 minutes"...
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  • djdamcdjdamc Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The more HSE cry topics I read the more i realize that most of you guys can't really tell the difference between getting killed by a lance or a Torpedo Spread III...
    So please don't say bull**** like "I got lanced when I was near the queen for 12135134963 minutes, it doesn't work". If you see that happening all the time, then record and post a video of it... I'd be glad to prove you wrong.
  • djdamcdjdamc Member Posts: 61 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Another 'everyone is wrong except me' post? And another example of you missing the point that you've only done this in an organised premade team and it tends to be PuGs that experience this problem.

    It really isn't much good spouting off about how everyone is wrong when you haven't actually experienced the enviroment that the bug tends to occur in - but I guess you are just too good to participate in a PuG and you'd rather just sit in judgement of everyone else's inability to be as uber as you consider yourself to be.

    This is becoming quite a habit for you.

    I've shown you a video of me with a PuG team. Your first reaction was "You liar, this was recorded before lances could kill people", now you claim it was a premade? lol
    Anyways, what's so bad about an organized team? STO is the only MMO I've ever seen
    in which people completely despise premades...

    As I've said before, please show me proof of the bug, I'd be glad to admit I was wrong, assuming there is valid evidence.
  • cptniteusercptniteuser Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited September 2013
    The real question of this elite STF?

    Difficulty vs. Reward <--Think the reward is lacking big time, considering the amount of repair components one must use. The time it takes to que a pug team, and the people that just leave and give up is another big area of concern.

    And that's why it not worth my time to play hardly at all if ever.
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