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New factions again part of fed/kdf war?
johnsteward
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Someone was just mentioning the cardassian union as a possible new faction down the road and i remember stahlsaying that all new factions would be like the roms are now.
So my question is just how that could be done storywise?
While it might make at least some kind of sense for romulan survivors to split up and join on a person basis fed or kdf, it wouldnt make much sense for the cardassians. Maybe some true way/mirror universe thing where our cardis join fed and the mirror cardis join kdf or what would you think how they will explain it?
So my question is just how that could be done storywise?
While it might make at least some kind of sense for romulan survivors to split up and join on a person basis fed or kdf, it wouldnt make much sense for the cardassians. Maybe some true way/mirror universe thing where our cardis join fed and the mirror cardis join kdf or what would you think how they will explain it?
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Then you need the Feds and KDF both willing to offer assistance. Then you have 1 planet divided into two philosophies of life.
As per how it would be set up; most likely you'd start as a civilian, acquire one of these limited Cardassian ships, to then be sent on some kind of quest to gather intel on an unknown. Here, a threat or story would likely unfold which would eventually tie in with the Federation/Klingon war in where you'd have to choose a side.
My bet would be to include two independent mini mini-factions, one of each joining Fed/KDF. Since Cardassians are anyways de facto a Federation protectorate, they would have to join Fed.
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If a 4th faction comes it has to be the Cardassians, they are one of the big 4 races in territories and back story. Yes they have suffered a battering (30 years ago in game) but like the 'crippled' Romulans they have kept hold of most there territory , even if they have used the good will of the federation to do so.
Cardassians are abit like Germany told they could only hold a very limited military, though times change Germany now are becoming one of the most powerful countries again and own half of Europe via bale outs. Cardassia has been keeping to its self really building up resources yes the True way have/are making that harder.
It would be easy to believe that though Cardassia have said they aren't making a new fleet they infact secretly are they got away with it before, this time they might just be doing it for security incase they are pulled into the war and to help with the Borg threat.
Any new faction would be implemented as the Romulans have been and the Cardassian's story easily fits this mould, yes they wouldn't be the Dukat cardssians from season 1-6 of ds9 they would be the Demar 'free Cardassians' as they are now set in cannon by the end of ds9 as a race with a new mind set, also soft Cannon builds there new way up more , like the book Andrew Robinson wrote himself about Garak's life and what he does now. ('stitch in time' I think its called something like that).
My last point brings me to a great idea people have mentioned Andrew Robinson coming in to do the voicing and Garak being our go to guy. I don't think it would take much to get him in he loves the character!
As for the Cardassians and Klingons history of hatred , is it not similar to the Klingons hating Romulns and Romulans hating Klingons? So really that as a factor of them not wanting to be allied is kinda null and void.
As for ships its not much of an issue in KDF you have various BoP through the tiers , sure this could happen with the Hideki to quote meory alpha (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Hideki_class)
"The class was used as an attack ship, a patrol ship, and a shuttlecraft."
So they could stretch that out about like have shuttle Hideki maybe the C-store shuttle for CDF and then a Hideki attack ship for commander level , then maybe even a retrofit for T5.
Galor class has had various incarnations the TNG one is Different to the DS9 one (size mainly) for example, maybe the lock box one can be said to be the mid range between the TNG Galor T-3 and the DS9 T-4, Then the T-5 retrofit. A Damar class (t-5 keldon refit or an escort of some sort) can be made and named after Damar for his actions in to reclaim Cardassia.
I hope they make it happen , the Cardassian's as the 4th faction or second demi-faction, but it should be 18 months time a year minimum.
Dominion should not be part of the Fed-KDF binary, but then again neither should the Romulans, and Cryptic has already shown us they will break Star Trek if its cheaper/easier to do it that way.
The Dominion itself has had only one hostile encounter with any player factions, which their Vorta claimed was instigated by the USS Rapier, not themselves. Everything else is Laas's pets and some very confused time travelers.
The Detapa Council is pretty much in the same states as New Romulus - it's pretty much helpless, treaty bound against fielding a sufficient military to meet current threats. Their inclusion in Task Force Omega is a formality meant to let them know the grown ups will be shooting Borg in their space, and their ambassador is very quick to remind you of this repeatedly. It has known pro- and anti-Federation political groups currently active.
It's like they were setting up for a Cardassian split faction in the Romulan Republic style all along, and just changed gears around season 7 to make it Romulans instead.
I think is about time that cryptic see to it that they do. This is why we have Romulans being called Fed officers when clearly they are not. Same can be said about the KDF, sure I know it going to be a huge undertake. but like I said it should be done all else we will keep getting the same problems and they will find themselves against the wall with all their storyline mess up.
So no, I don't want whatever limited man-power the company has to make two micro-micro-Factions just because someone doesn't want to be called a Fed Rom. People are going to find things to complain and give each other grief about whether it's a Fed Rom moniker or something else entirely.
I complete agree with you on this, but truelly wouldn't you say it about time they sorted out this copy and paste mission that they give everyone which breaks everything about telling a good story. I mean I choose the play the Romulan because I wanted a different storyline but oh no they have to go and copy some of the storyline from other faction into other not make the factions story feel very Unique
Yeah...where the Cardassians are now they would fit well into a RR like story pretty well.