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Which ship is better? Galaxy Retrofit or Nebula Retrofit?
captainlim
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I usually use the galaxy retrofit until cryptic givesaway the nebula retrofit. I still can't decide to use either ships so can anyone gives some suggestions on this and which power should i use on it? Thanks:)
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Nebula no matter what class you play.
If in doubt put another TAC BOFF into the unviersal slot and you'll have enough firepower.
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Advanced_Research_Vessel_Retrofit
Yes, it's Lt. not Lt.Cmdr. Still gives a very nice flexibility to the Nebula Boff setup when you take into consideration that it has Cmdr. Sci. and Lt.Cmdr. Engi. Boff slots.
Overall, the Nebula is a very solid ship for people that are not obsessed with DPS, the fleet version (that we all can get for 1 module now) has 34.000+ hull and 1.43 shield mod, making her a very good hull and shield tank both. Survivability seems to not be an issue with this ship, and it can carry quite a few buffs/holds/defuffs/team heals as well.
As for the Galaxy, well in this game it is clearly not the ship from the shows.
"You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon, taH pagh, taH be"
I think the Galaxy was Starfleet bluffing: we'll produce this really huge new ship and make everyone think it's incredibly powerful so they won't mess with us. And we'll put a throw-away Captain in charge of the Enterprise. He won't mind as it will seem like a huge step-up from the Constellation he flew in for 25 years.
Cruisers that are heavily engi focused compare poorly to one that does, this is because engineer abilities compare poorly to sci or tac abilities at this point in time.
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But you see they didn't have to fight. They negotiated their way out of danger. (Saves on budget costs)
Not sure how Jean Luc would enjoy being referred to as a "throw-away Captain". Still you could be on to something. Isn't the Galaxy just a Constellation with slightly more bling, a kindergarten and a shrink?
Tactical withdrawal maybe? Or emergency run home for more Earl Grey?
In all seriousness to the original post. What Talzerotwo said above.
"You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon, taH pagh, taH be"
It's Bridge Officer layout is more adaptable than the Galaxy-R.
Better turn rate.
And as mentioned earlier, Science abilities are in a better place than Engineering ones are.
Galaxy -R is simply the worst ship in the game.
Advantages to Galaxy Retrofit:
Saucer Separation (greater turn)
Cmdr and LtCmdr Eng slots (can slot DEM, RSP, Aux2SIF, EPtW, etc with abundance)
4/4 weapons layout
Greater hull strength
Advantages to Nebula Retrofit:
More balanced layout
Subsys Targeting
Sensor Analysis
Greater shield strength
Ideally, the Galaxy is a tank, and the Nebula is a more cruisery science ship.
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What the Nebula has though is it is a classic TNG ship. It also can use a "Venture" skin to share with the Galaxy & Gal-X ships.
Since when?
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I take issue with this and with the poster who called him Picoward...
Because seriously you are insulting a man who *takes a deep breath* Saved all reality, stopped a madman from making a star from blow up, killed a Klingon with his bare hands, survived Borg assimilation, swore at Klingons in Klingon without even a challenge raised, outsmarted nearly every species in the Alpha Quadrant at last once, stopped Time-Traveling life energy sucking aliens, made the Romulans and Omnipotent aliens bow to his gangsta, got the Chancellor of the Klingon Empire to loan him a ship for a mission, took the full brunt of a Vulcan's emotions to help a Diplomatic meeting, traveled back in time to save the future, and told off Superior Officers several ranks above him without so much as a reprimand in his file, and thwarted MULTIPLE attempts to hijack his ship.
And then he ends all this by kicking back with a cup of Earl Grey hot and Shakespeare.
Also keep in mind this guy ends up with Kirk whenever we debate Greatest Captains in Star Trek with never a clear winner.
Beware the nice ones indeed.
As to the Borg Cube the first time...keep in mind that while they did blow some nice big holes in the ship; the Borg were healing them just as quickly or even more quickly then they could be made and average volume size of a Borg Cube is 28 cubic Km. How big is the standard Galaxy class people?
Second, you do realize it was a joke, right? Thus the smileys.
Finally, think about Picard's career as if it were realistic. He served about the Stargazer for 25 years - 22 as the captain. The Constellation wasn't a great ship - even Picard states such while talking to Scotty. So effectively he was a guy given a crappy ship to command. He lost the ship in battle, got court martialed - which is standard for losing a ship - and then spent 9 years teaching rather then serving on another ship. So how much faith did Starfleet really have in him as they never gave him a good ship and made him a teacher?
Clearly he was put aboard the Galaxy as part of the subterfuge I talked about above. If he died, he died. No loss to Starfleet.
I'm suggesting that the Nebula can use a Venture-like skin... as in, "You know Cryptic, this ship would look even better if it had the option to use a Venture skin."
I know it does not have one!
Alternate Galaxy would more likely be a Mirror version.
That's not quite clear cut.
If you're gearing the Nebula up for tanking & defense, I'd venture to say that it is the equal of the Fleet Galaxy. The main thing is that the shields can be kept up much more easily with the Nebula, and shields in STO are your first and primary means of defense.
For one, the shield mod is high on the Nebula, a whopping 1.43 for the Fleet Nebula and 1.1 for the Fleet Galaxy (which has much higher hull). That means more shield points, and Covariants will go that much further on the Nebula.
Next, the Fleet Nebula does not have the Fleet Galaxy's 5 ENG Consoles, it's more balanced with 4/4 ENG/SCI Consoles. It can still be rugged ENG wise, but it will have stronger support for shield upkeep.
The Nebula has what it takes for a more balanced ENG + SCI defense. The Galaxy is all ENG and boatloads of hullpoints.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d734afLFPds
It also laughs at your silly demands for more turn rate. Turning, pssh.
However, the Nebula did not make me think of swapping out of my Excelsior on my main. I'm not even sure whether I like the Nebula above the Mirror Luna.
As stated: the Galaxy is close to being the worst endgame ship in the game.
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I highlighted green an issue with Fed Science Ships that Cryptic introduced, something that literally can do anything expected of a Sci Cruiser or even regular Cruiser. The Vesta is the end-all-be-all Science Ship. It is able to do practically anything.
In sense of gameplay, yes, there are far superior Sci Ships. Wells, Vesta package.
But if you want to fly an actual iconic Star Trek ship, none of those are viable.
The Nebula however is a well known TNG ship. And I still remember when STO came out how desperate Fed players were to get the Nebula into the game.
The Intrepid is a better science ship than the Nebula in STO ... and is more iconic in general Star Trek.
But the Vesta is iconic enough. It's captained in the books by Dax.
I remember the Nebula got crushed in player thread count by the most iconic cruiser that is in the game, and what the OP should fly if they were going to listen to both those early game players as well as the cryptic development team: The Excelsior.