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Show some love for the D'Kyr ship (illogical!)

redshirtthefirstredshirtthefirst Member Posts: 415 Arc User
edited August 2013 in Federation Discussion
There is one thing about me, it is my love for all things Vulcan, I about collected what I could related to that species. One thing missing is the D'Kyr science ship, but 2,000 Zen for a T4 ship is a little steep. I know it comes with a shuttle, but still...

Could we see, in the near future, a retrofit/fleet version of this ship? Maybe even a 3 ship pack with tac/eng versions? In addition, any possibility to pull the shuttle off the pack and sale it by itself in the C-store?

Bottom line, I would love to see this ship being revived and brought forward. The graphic asset is there for the most part. All we need is reviving stats and find a spot for it in the ship balance system. I know you would find one happy player, and I am sure there will be quite a few who would buy one...

Thanks...

Live Long and Prosper.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lol :D I guess I share your love for the Vulcans as well. :) My favourite Trek species.

    I actually asked this in the latest 'Ask Cryptic' and I guess we'll see if it gets answered. Particulary I asked about a fleet version of the D'kyr and the possibilty of a unique Vulcan bridge to come attached to the fleet version.
    I have also heard some speculations that Cpt.Geko is working on somekind of "Founders of the Federation" starship pack which would have a Vulcan cruiser (the one from ENT I think), but for now this is pure speculation as far as I know, a dev. may shed some light in this thread if they feel like it. ;)

    Also, I'd like to note that the D'kyr is not a T4 ship, but rather T5. I don't think it needs reviving her stats, but rather boost them a bit on a fleet variant. Other than that I actually like the D'kyr the way it is. I wouldn't take away the shuttle from the ship on purchase as well, it's kinda' part of the D'kyr. However I think they could make it availible for separate purchase only as a shuttle.

    It would be lovely to see the Sh'Ran cruiser or even the Surak class make an appearance in STO, I'd buy both of them in a heartbeat.

    Just as you said, here is one more player that would be extremely happy to see any new Vulcan assets in STO. :)
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    All it needs to be competitive is the ensign sci replaced with a uni. Should be done for all of them with 3 sci stations, actually. These older sci ships with 3 sci stations reflect a style of gameplay that is no longer viable.
  • calistobradycalistobrady Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'll sign this too.

    Vulcans are basically just as important in the founding of the Federation and should get more representation in star ships. I own the D'Kyr and found it to be a neat little ship but agree it needs to be brought up to the end-game content that exists today. Give it another unique feature or up it stats and BOFF slots.
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    I'd say wait for the new Vulcan ship before you go purchasing the D'Kyr...but that's me.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    lianthelia wrote: »
    I'd say wait for the new Vulcan ship before you go purchasing the D'Kyr...but that's me.

    You say it as you know a new Vulcan ship is comming, so I'm going to ask anyway - Do you have some info that such a ship is comming?
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  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    they have said in many podcasts that a fleet version was in the works
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  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,881 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Rumors going around or well one I read about some type of Founders of the Federation pack having a Vulcan, Andorian, and Tellarite ship.

    I don't have links to any of the tweets but I remember reading them somewhere and there is this link as well.

    http://www.stoacademy.com/blog/index.php?post=new_ships_for_sto
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  • terppa123terppa123 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    There is one thing about me, it is my love for all things Vulcan, I about collected what I could related to that species. One thing missing is the D'Kyr science ship, but 2,000 Zen for a T4 ship is a little steep. I know it comes with a shuttle, but still...

    Could we see, in the near future, a retrofit/fleet version of this ship? Maybe even a 3 ship pack with tac/eng versions? In addition, any possibility to pull the shuttle off the pack and sale it by itself in the C-store?

    Bottom line, I would love to see this ship being revived and brought forward. The graphic asset is there for the most part. All we need is reviving stats and find a spot for it in the ship balance system. I know you would find one happy player, and I am sure there will be quite a few who would buy one...

    Thanks...

    Live Long and Prosper.

    I sign it also.

    We want more vulkan stuff.

    Also from enterprice series would like to see costume options for vulkans.
  • dknight0001dknight0001 Member Posts: 1,542
    edited August 2013
    There is one thing about me, it is my love for all things Vulcan, I about collected what I could related to that species. One thing missing is the D'Kyr science ship, but 2,000 Zen for a T4 ship is a little steep. I know it comes with a shuttle, but still...

    Except it's a Tier 5 ship. It just doesn't have a Fleet variant, and Fleet is Tier 5+.

    The ship you get at L40 is T5.
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    The irony is that the skin they used for the D'kyr (science heavy as hell) in game is actually the Vulcan Command Cruiser from the show. Which means that if anything, the D'kyr should have been Eng Major, Tac Minor, Sci using what's leftover. BUUUUT seeing as it's a pure sci boat, I am inclined to agree with ursusmorologus. Replacing that ens sci with a uni (or a tac/eng) would be the best way to go. Uni preferred of course.

    Sufficed to say, if they did make a fleet version of that, I would probably end up buying it, because out of all the Vulcan ships, that skin was always a fave of mine, ever since I saw one on Enterprise.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    The irony is that the skin they used for the D'kyr (science heavy as hell) in game is actually the Vulcan Command Cruiser from the show. Which means that if anything, the D'kyr should have been Eng Major, Tac Minor, Sci using what's leftover. BUUUUT seeing as it's a pure sci boat, I am inclined to agree with ursusmorologus. Replacing that ens sci with a uni (or a tac/eng) would be the best way to go. Uni preferred of course.

    Sufficed to say, if they did make a fleet version of that, I would probably end up buying it, because out of all the Vulcan ships, that skin was always a fave of mine, ever since I saw one on Enterprise.

    Oh man, I love the classic look of Starfleet ships, but the Vulcan ones are pure beauty. I could take the D'kyr and fly it around in sector space just to look at it. :)

    We have seen improving the animations of the D'kyr being mentioned in Tribble patch notes lately, so maybe this is a signal we'll be getting a fleet version? I do hope that the fleet one has that ens. universal like you suggested.

    And about the eng.major Vulcan ship you mentioned, I'm hoping that it would be the Surak class making her appearance in STO. It is a cruiser and it could be one as well in STO. That would mean one more awesome Vulcan ship for us! :)
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  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    Oh man, I love the classic look of Starfleet ships, but the Vulcan ones are pure beauty. I could take the D'kyr and fly it around in sector space just to look at it. :)

    We have seen improving the animations of the D'kyr being mentioned in Tribble patch notes lately, so maybe this is a signal we'll be getting a fleet version? I do hope that the fleet one has that ens. universal like you suggested.

    And about the eng.major Vulcan ship you mentioned, I'm hoping that it would be the Surak class making her appearance in STO. It is a cruiser and it could be one as well in STO. That would mean one more awesome Vulcan ship for us! :)

    I hope we'll see the Surak Class in a forseeable time as a science cruiser in STO.
    I think it's a very beautyful and unique ship, just as the D'Kyr.
    Because of it's slim shape, i think a 25th century version of the surak class should be scaled up, so compared to other ship in STO it wouldn't look tiny next to a Odyssey or D'Deridex.


    OT:
    I haven't bought the D'kyr myself, because it's BOFF layout just isn't my cup of tea and certainly not worth 200 ZEN from me.
    In my opinion, it would be "logical" to have the Science Lt and ensign BOFF slots become universal. I wouldn't hesitate to buy that ship right away.
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  • shpoksshpoks Member Posts: 6,967 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    yreodred wrote: »
    I hope we'll see the Surak Class in a forseeable time as a science cruiser in STO.
    I think it's a very beautyful and unique ship, just as the D'Kyr.
    Because of it's slim shape, i think a 25th century version of the surak class should be scaled up, so compared to other ship in STO it wouldn't look tiny next to a Odyssey or D'Deridex.

    I would hope for that as well. If the Surak class is brought to STO, I'd hope they make it a wee larger than it was in ENT, because in STO that would look too small for a cruiser. In ENT it's dimensions were smaller than the D'kyr.

    However, I wouldn't want it to become too big, like some ridiculously oversized things in game. I'd say make it the size of the Excelsior, maybe a just bit longer/wider and it's fine.
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  • yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    shpoks wrote: »
    I would hope for that as well. If the Surak class is brought to STO, I'd hope they make it a wee larger than it was in ENT, because in STO that would look too small for a cruiser. In ENT it's dimensions were smaller than the D'kyr.

    However, I wouldn't want it to become too big, like some ridiculously oversized things in game. I'd say make it the size of the Excelsior, maybe a just bit longer/wider and it's fine.

    Yes it would look strange if it where too big, like let's say a Scimitar. But on the other hand we shouldn't forget that it is essentially just a narow cigar with a ring attached. So i think it can be made about as long as a Sovereign or even a bit longer, without looking too massive.
    "...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--" - (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie

    A tale of two Picards
    (also applies to Star Trek in general)
  • kiriseekirisee Member Posts: 446 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Signed x10 since i love the ship
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  • mvp333mvp333 Member Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited August 2013
    Personally, I think that TWO more Vulcan ships should be introduced, they should all become regular Dilithium ships (But not available via free ship token), and they should be replaced in the C-Store by some other ship that would realistically be more rare/from somewhere further away...
    (From the future)

    GTFO, stupid F2Per. Like all F2P games, you have to pay to get cool stuff. Quit whining about how everything isn't handed to you and about how poor you are.

    Sorry, just my opinion. IMO, a F2P game doesn't need to (basically) restrict every cool, non-"standard" thing to a cash shop just to succeed financially.

    ...But yeah, it really should at least be improved. The BOff layout isn't worth getting the ship, as pretty as it is. I'd really like to throw the Jem'Hadar set on it though, because that would look AWESOME assuming it works the way I think it does.
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