Far as I know, yep, that's it. One project that gives 2000 rep xp; one that gives 800. You can get marks as fast as the cooldowns for the various STFs go, but the reputation projects and their 20 hr runtime will remain your choke-point.
Omega - run infected elite once a day Any and all Borg Elite STF's pay out well, infected is the fastest
Nukara - run crystalline entity Normal once a day. Don't forget to pick up your box before you warp out! Normal is quick and easy, don't pug CE elite. Also Transdimensional Ground. 1 easy boss for 45 marks. Bring an EV suit.
Romulan - tag eppohs once a day. then purchase an eppoh once you reach 5 eppoh research . Raise eppoh via doff missions @ the eppoh fields. Elder eppoh =400 romulan marks. Averages to about 80 marks a day. While there pickup some rad reports. I wanna say 300 gets you 60 marks.
Tau Dewa patrol, you can run the same map 5 times for 75 marks.
Mine Trap, with a good team and optionals you can nab about 100 makrs.
Get ground equipment from vendor... Unless someone knows someplace cheaper.
Get space equipment from cargo ship outside Sol.
I hate grinding but that's what we all have to do in order to get the goodies.
On a more serious note, stop complaining. If you think 20 hours is bad, just keep this in mind. For players who were here at the start of S7 when rep was first introduced, you have NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING on them as cost and grind go.
At that time, the timers on the rep missions were 40 hours (yes, 40), and all the rep increasing missions were about twice as expensive in commodities, expertise, and marks as they are now. Oh, and the tier ups also required dilithium. Refined dilithium. So please OP, take your watered down cheap, fast rep requirements, and shut up.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
The whole rep system is time gated so dont try to grind up marks except for doing 1 a day. thats 3 different events everyday until the rep is completed and the rest of your playing time can be used for doing other things.
The only time you should grind for marks is when you are going to buy something. A good thing to do is buy the cheapest set right away then only use marks for rep and save until T5 is complete. Once T5 is complete then you should have extra marks for buying the top end gear to replace the first set with a minimal grind for whats missing. So buy the MK X version right away then the MK XII when the rep is done. I just hit T5 in omega and rom today and had enough marks to get the assimilated engine and deflector without running any ESTF and have 2 of the ground maco kits started. Have plenty of rom marks i dont have any plans for too. Wasnt a grind to get there, but i am relieved its done because of the amount of time it takes only not the amount of repeating content.
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There are lots of threads about how unfun the reputation system is. It is comical to read the devs posts and interviews about "leveling" captains after the last level.
Rep is tedious, limited in missions, requires constant logging in and is consuming.
STO is a casual gamer game with how they handle content. Nothing wrong with that, but they require the casual gamer to log in every single stinking day to update their projects. It is too time consuming. There should be 20, 40, 60, 80.....hour missions that require multiples of materials.
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I have yet to lose a CE Pug on Elite and you can get 80 Marks from it (during Mark Event). Why do it on normal?
Just did it in less than 15 mins 2 sec ago too
If you have multiple toons the Nukara mark per minute rate is faster on normal if you can switch through your toons than if you do elite on all. If efficiency and multiple toons is not your concern then Elite is best, otherwise I recommend Normal.
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Get a few Mark XIII space weapons etc and the mark X ground set.
Run ISE, KASE and only spend marks on reputation as you then end with T5 and enough marks to get what you want.
After you unlock T5 just run STF's and get when items you prefer, I still elite space STF's in Assimilated mark X gear as it's not worth the grind for much else
Get a few Mark XIII space weapons etc and the mark X ground set.
Run ISE, KASE and only spend marks on reputation as you then end with T5 and enough marks to get what you want.
After you unlock T5 just run STF's and get when items you prefer, I still elite space STF's in Assimilated mark X gear as it's not worth the grind for much else
Question:
Where do I get mk XIII weapons? I have full mk XII purples, but I would like to get my paws on some mk XIIIs.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
For your information. I've been playing since BETA. So thats seasons 1 through 7. The reason why I havent took any stock in rep is because until recently I never fully understood how it worked.
Next time you try flaming someone, consider that! Also if you have nothing constructive to say, STFU!
So you get a little butt-hurt from a comment and then pull the "I'm from Beta" card. Ok. I will pull the "I don't honestly care" card and just tell you that despite that fact, when you finally decided to take stock in what rep is you have a watered down version, so stop complaining. I have tier V omega rep on all my lvl 50 characters, and omega is the easiest out of ALL of them. All it takes is 35 days of doing the 2k and 800 ones. And omega has the easiest to acquire marks out of ALL of them. It also has the cheapest commodities out of the three. So yes, I will just laugh.
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
I think the answer to my question is: No you can only do the assignments that are available to get rep.
However I'd like to ask anyway.
Obviously you do assignments to gain rep, you know the 20hr ones that take FOREVER to get you up a tier. Is there any other way of doing it?
20hrs to get around 3000 rep is harsh and I refuse to todo the smaller ones as the price is not worth the reward in my opinion.
I'm not at my computer so that I can accurately tell you how much rep is earned by by each assignment. Just a question thats all.
I agree that 20 hours is too long and I'll go even further by saying there shouldn't be a time sink whatsoever.
Apparently, that doesn't matter to people who spend 16+ hours in front of their computers each and every day with one week blurring into another but for NORMAL players...bleh.
The least Cryptic could do is make the Rep unlocks account-wide.
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I've been through all three reps on 4 toons so far, and find the timeline acceptable based on the rewards.
Had you been around when the rep system was introduced, the early adopters were faced with 20 hour periods for items as well. Currently they are 2 min - be thankful. Many of us had to wait a lot longer.
And for the items to acquired in a reasonable time-frame, you'll need the time to build your bank. The waiting periods work fine for that.
Where do I get mk XIII weapons? I have full mk XII purples, but I would like to get my paws on some mk XIIIs.
For all intents and purpose advanced fleet would be MK XIII purple if compared to the exchange MK XII purples. They are just marked as MK XII ultra rare but then look at how the rarity works. MK XI green is MK XII white, Blue is green, Purple is blue, Ultra rare would ofcourse be purple.
So there you have the answer on where to get MK XIII purple weapons!
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On a more serious note, stop complaining. If you think 20 hours is bad, just keep this in mind. For players who were here at the start of S7 when rep was first introduced, you have NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING on them as cost and grind go.
At that time, the timers on the rep missions were 40 hours (yes, 40), and all the rep increasing missions were about twice as expensive in commodities, expertise, and marks as they are now. Oh, and the tier ups also required dilithium. Refined dilithium. So please OP, take your watered down cheap, fast rep requirements, and shut up.
YOU shut up. Its a legitimate complaint, just because things used to be worse doesn't mean they shouldn't be better than they are right now. :P
I agree with the OP. The most annoying thing about the Rep system is how time-demanding it is, and especially how this affects alts. Even if you hit every day from the start, it takes you a minimum of 35 days - over a month - to level up a reputation system.
That, and if you play like me, there's a dead zone for your character between hitting VA and getting to tier 5 omega rep - a dead zone where you literally have nothing to do except log on and fill those projects, then log off, unless you need marks, then you play 1 elite STF and you're set. Its dull.
If they changed it so you could turn in marks for more reputation, or completing the STFs themselves gave you reputation, that would be better, because
1) It rewards grinding your balls off - fitting with the rest of this game's endstyle
2) It allows people on alts who just want it to be over to get it done in maybe a week by playing ESTFs 2-3 hours a day.
Do you know why 20 hours seems so long? It's because you have nothing else in life to do. Some of us either work full time or go to school full time (some do both). Waiting 20 hours is not that long when you come down to it. You're just greedy and want everything all the time. Go outside and play for a bit. That's healthy. Staying indoors and playing games every waking hour, that's not healthy.
A simple 20 hour cool down is not that excessive. You're just in too big a rush to get everything. Have a bit of patience. Try helping those who can't be online playing STO as long as you. The knowledge you have amassed by playing all the time can be a great benefit. Not only to yourself but, to the community as a whole. Teaching others what you have learned enables you to look good and helps others to get better. Think about that before you start whining that it's taking too long, costing too much to achieve everything.
My comment was not directed to you specifically recon. You and I apparently share the same amount of available game time. You cannot deny though that many are just greedy and in a rush to finish everything.
The whole point of my comment was: Slow down and enjoy the game for what it is...entertainment. It's not a competition.
YOU shut up. Its a legitimate complaint, just because things used to be worse doesn't mean they shouldn't be better than they are right now. :P
I agree with the OP. The most annoying thing about the Rep system is how time-demanding it is, and especially how this affects alts. Even if you hit every day from the start, it takes you a minimum of 35 days - over a month - to level up a reputation system.
That, and if you play like me, there's a dead zone for your character between hitting VA and getting to tier 5 omega rep - a dead zone where you literally have nothing to do except log on and fill those projects, then log off, unless you need marks, then you play 1 elite STF and you're set. Its dull.
If they changed it so you could turn in marks for more reputation, or completing the STFs themselves gave you reputation, that would be better, because
1) It rewards grinding your balls off - fitting with the rest of this game's endstyle
2) It allows people on alts who just want it to be over to get it done in maybe a week by playing ESTFs 2-3 hours a day.
*sigh*...
Instant gratification...
It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once.
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So for 28,000 marks @ 50 marks per 5 xp, but it would only take about 2 and a half hours to 'cook'.
(you'd also have 280,000 dili to refine!)
Added my 2 cents in blue.
Tholian bosses are 35 marks unless it's the bonus event. Which makes them give 50 instead.
Oh man, this thread... OP, you are lulzy as hell.
On a more serious note, stop complaining. If you think 20 hours is bad, just keep this in mind. For players who were here at the start of S7 when rep was first introduced, you have NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING on them as cost and grind go.
At that time, the timers on the rep missions were 40 hours (yes, 40), and all the rep increasing missions were about twice as expensive in commodities, expertise, and marks as they are now. Oh, and the tier ups also required dilithium. Refined dilithium. So please OP, take your watered down cheap, fast rep requirements, and shut up.
The only time you should grind for marks is when you are going to buy something. A good thing to do is buy the cheapest set right away then only use marks for rep and save until T5 is complete. Once T5 is complete then you should have extra marks for buying the top end gear to replace the first set with a minimal grind for whats missing. So buy the MK X version right away then the MK XII when the rep is done. I just hit T5 in omega and rom today and had enough marks to get the assimilated engine and deflector without running any ESTF and have 2 of the ground maco kits started. Have plenty of rom marks i dont have any plans for too. Wasnt a grind to get there, but i am relieved its done because of the amount of time it takes only not the amount of repeating content.
"I'm drunk, whats your excuse for being an idiot?" - Unknown drunk man. :eek:
Rep is tedious, limited in missions, requires constant logging in and is consuming.
STO is a casual gamer game with how they handle content. Nothing wrong with that, but they require the casual gamer to log in every single stinking day to update their projects. It is too time consuming. There should be 20, 40, 60, 80.....hour missions that require multiples of materials.
I have yet to lose a CE Pug on Elite and you can get 80 Marks from it (during Mark Event). Why do it on normal?
Just did it in less than 15 mins 2 sec ago too
If you have multiple toons the Nukara mark per minute rate is faster on normal if you can switch through your toons than if you do elite on all. If efficiency and multiple toons is not your concern then Elite is best, otherwise I recommend Normal.
Run ISE, KASE and only spend marks on reputation as you then end with T5 and enough marks to get what you want.
After you unlock T5 just run STF's and get when items you prefer, I still elite space STF's in Assimilated mark X gear as it's not worth the grind for much else
Question:
Where do I get mk XIII weapons? I have full mk XII purples, but I would like to get my paws on some mk XIIIs.
So you get a little butt-hurt from a comment and then pull the "I'm from Beta" card. Ok. I will pull the "I don't honestly care" card and just tell you that despite that fact, when you finally decided to take stock in what rep is you have a watered down version, so stop complaining. I have tier V omega rep on all my lvl 50 characters, and omega is the easiest out of ALL of them. All it takes is 35 days of doing the 2k and 800 ones. And omega has the easiest to acquire marks out of ALL of them. It also has the cheapest commodities out of the three. So yes, I will just laugh.
Try leveling up a fleet base with only two members in your fleet. That is a frigging grind. :mad:
and this one unless it is bonus hour only gives 60 marks
I agree that 20 hours is too long and I'll go even further by saying there shouldn't be a time sink whatsoever.
Apparently, that doesn't matter to people who spend 16+ hours in front of their computers each and every day with one week blurring into another but for NORMAL players...bleh.
The least Cryptic could do is make the Rep unlocks account-wide.
RIP KDF and PvP 2014-07-17 Season 9.5 - Death by Dev
I've been through all three reps on 4 toons so far, and find the timeline acceptable based on the rewards.
Had you been around when the rep system was introduced, the early adopters were faced with 20 hour periods for items as well. Currently they are 2 min - be thankful. Many of us had to wait a lot longer.
And for the items to acquired in a reasonable time-frame, you'll need the time to build your bank. The waiting periods work fine for that.
For all intents and purpose advanced fleet would be MK XIII purple if compared to the exchange MK XII purples. They are just marked as MK XII ultra rare but then look at how the rarity works. MK XI green is MK XII white, Blue is green, Purple is blue, Ultra rare would ofcourse be purple.
So there you have the answer on where to get MK XIII purple weapons!
"I'm drunk, whats your excuse for being an idiot?" - Unknown drunk man. :eek:
YOU shut up. Its a legitimate complaint, just because things used to be worse doesn't mean they shouldn't be better than they are right now. :P
I agree with the OP. The most annoying thing about the Rep system is how time-demanding it is, and especially how this affects alts. Even if you hit every day from the start, it takes you a minimum of 35 days - over a month - to level up a reputation system.
That, and if you play like me, there's a dead zone for your character between hitting VA and getting to tier 5 omega rep - a dead zone where you literally have nothing to do except log on and fill those projects, then log off, unless you need marks, then you play 1 elite STF and you're set. Its dull.
If they changed it so you could turn in marks for more reputation, or completing the STFs themselves gave you reputation, that would be better, because
1) It rewards grinding your balls off - fitting with the rest of this game's endstyle
2) It allows people on alts who just want it to be over to get it done in maybe a week by playing ESTFs 2-3 hours a day.
A simple 20 hour cool down is not that excessive. You're just in too big a rush to get everything. Have a bit of patience. Try helping those who can't be online playing STO as long as you. The knowledge you have amassed by playing all the time can be a great benefit. Not only to yourself but, to the community as a whole. Teaching others what you have learned enables you to look good and helps others to get better. Think about that before you start whining that it's taking too long, costing too much to achieve everything.
That's my 2 cents worth.
My comment was not directed to you specifically recon. You and I apparently share the same amount of available game time. You cannot deny though that many are just greedy and in a rush to finish everything.
The whole point of my comment was: Slow down and enjoy the game for what it is...entertainment. It's not a competition.
*sigh*...
Instant gratification...