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The old [Acc] [CritH] [Borg] weapons.
dknight0001
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I've just refit my old [Acc] [CritH] [Borg] Mk XII Disruptor DHCs with fancy new Polarised Disruptor DHCs [Acc] [CritH] (Good enough for PVE) and i'm wondering since these weapons are no longer available is it worth hanging onto them? The Borg proc isn't the greatest and when I got them it was a very quick way to get Mk XII weapons while grinding for that damned salvage.
But now I'm thinking maybe I should scrap them, since the [Borg] proc doesn't seem to be as good anymore. Especially when I can get a Polaron Proc or heck the new shield ignoring Elachi Disruptors. The catch is once there gone, they can't be replaced.
I've got Flow caps & Plasmonic Leech so the idea behind the Polarised Disruptors was it's even more drain on those unfortunate targets. And it seemed to mesh with the Garumba nicely. I'm thinking of trying Hazard Emitters 1 with Energy Siphon 1 on it too.
But now I'm thinking maybe I should scrap them, since the [Borg] proc doesn't seem to be as good anymore. Especially when I can get a Polaron Proc or heck the new shield ignoring Elachi Disruptors. The catch is once there gone, they can't be replaced.
I've got Flow caps & Plasmonic Leech so the idea behind the Polarised Disruptors was it's even more drain on those unfortunate targets. And it seemed to mesh with the Garumba nicely. I'm thinking of trying Hazard Emitters 1 with Energy Siphon 1 on it too.
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I upgraded to Advanced Fleet weapons and ditched the borg weapons. Mark XII ultra-rare with x2 (Acc)? Yes please.
For PVP [Acc] is king as much as possible is still not enough, but in PVE more than a single [Acc] isn't necessary, (especially when you got skills in targetting). Hence my [Acc] [CrtH] [Polaron] Disruptors are more useful to me. Flow Caps and the Polaron Proc help pull the power out of the Enemy, Disruptors cause the pain. The Disruptor Coils power both Guns and the Javelin and if you proc the Disruptor you Proc the Polaron so their hull and shields weaken together if their still even up.
I replaced them not so much to get more punch, but to get a more interesting Proc that really fits the idea behind the ship.
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Here are my suggestions to make the [Borg] modifer more useful:
-ALWAYS adds bonus damage to Borg NPCs on top of the damage caused by the weapon damage rolls.
-Chance to do damge to Borg modified ships in PvP. A Borg Modified ship would be one that has equipped at least one piece of the Borg Assimilated Shield/Deflector/Engine set, OR at least one piece from the Omega Adapted Borg Weapon/Console set.
-Base Weapon Proc always activates against Borg NPCs (Phasers alwyas disable a subsystem, Plasma always ignites burn, Polarons conitually pile on subsystem drain until NPC's subsystem power=0, Tetryons Strip NPC Borg Shields, Disruptor adds weakness with every hit to Borg NPCs until defnese=0)
Is this too much to ask? As most of these only affect specific NPCs, is it really breaking the game? If these suggestions work, then it could be the basis for creating anti-Romulan, Anti-Tholian, and Anti-Dominion weapons.
Even a small increase to the Weapon Proc rate for the Borg modifier would be awesome. 100% would be too good. One salvo of Phasers or Polarons and the Borg are dead in space.
The chance for the 1000 (which ignores shields BTW) to hit a player with Borg tech on his ship would be hilarious in PVP as everybody has the Assimilated Module.
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If it is on a torpedo I would keep it. the proc has a much higher chance of going off compared to energy weapons, and is guarenteed to go off once through torp spread whenever it is used. Also considering most ships only equip one or two of them, it is a minimal loss of space to keep them in your inventory to swap them out with more conventional torps to use in other missions.
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And make players consider the merits of whether they really want to equip one of those two sets or not. It would add an additional element to PvP. If nothing else, it would serve to "weaken" or "balance" those sets compaired to players who do not use (or have not yet earned) them.
I held onto mine on various characters, as they are great backup sets. If I want to experiment with semi-geared secondary ships, it's excellent. I also don't really notice the performance difference vs "better" weapons. Then there's the tac for which I got some last minute anti-proton weapons before S7 launched...
Sounds like the bug is the NPC ships not being properly identified as Borg rather than the weapon.
True, but I just replaced them with a set of MK XII [Acc][CrtH]. I guess I'm keeping them on one of my unused ships for now at least.
I suppose it also depends on if you have a starbase that you can get the Advanced Fleet Weapons from. Not that I recall if you can actually get them with a [Acc][CrtH] combo on.
On the Elachi weapons, I was a little surprised to see they replaced the Disruptor Proc completely I was expecting them to be Hybrid's their basically an all new weapon type that just happens to be boosted by Disruptor Consoles.
They actually make me want to make a Fed style Cannon Cruiser (Singles Cannons for those who don't get the joke) because it would look awesome firing. Hmm, they did give me a free Maruader today.
Oh and for the record it looks like I'm keeping those DHC's & Turrets a bit longer.
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It is a shame we never had a replacement for the Borg torp. The devs placed a similar proc to the Borg energy weapon in the rep system but never put a similar replacement in the rep system for the Borg torps and mines
The torpedo rep system replacement is just so useless with its 95% nerf for no apparent reason I can see.
Actually, I remember coming across a dev statement to that effect at some point. Some of them are recognised, some of them aren't. Mostly, it's the Klingon-Borg stuff and their spawns that's still coded/recognised as Klingon, and Donatra and her TB mines that's marked as Romulan.
It seems that adapted stuff is still heavily based on the original code, confusing the [borg] proc. I guess un-breaking it was a lot of work, involving lots of code and the potential to break other things...
Which is why they need to put a hold on all the new gimicks and giveaways and put a large chuck of time just fixing the bugs. Then they could do a "re-launch" much as they did for Europe's "Re-launch". I can go for a few months without new material; there is so much to complete and earn (as far as fleet advnacement, Reputation, and accolades), that we need time to digest it all. And for those who have only one of two characters, they could easily spend that time leveling/reputation advancing a new character or two.