Ok.let me see if I can explain it to you more directly.Once you join the Corps. they OWN YOU. Even after you retire. Your TRIBBLE belongs to them. No matter what for the rest of your life. and you can always be 'recalled' back into the line of service. And if your employed directly by the Govt...even if its not armed forces. All they work you do with them is 'classified' even after. You may not be 'forced' per say to stay quite but they have ways to make you. some even beneficial
aah i understand, thanks for clearing it up.
1 more reason not to join the force, my TRIBBLE belongs to me....
(wasnt slavery (being forced to do, or say,or think) banned long ago? /joke/)
if you started a fleet and you put in most of work and alot of real money. its your feet.
no one should be allowed to take away something u made and have worked so hard on.
for examples.
i stopped playing WoW for awhile and when i came back i had lost everything from the bank etc... a
and was kicked along with all my members. when i left the game there was no inavtive time limit.
even tho i never stopped paying for wow.
anyways i quit wow because of that, and the panda bears.
moral of the story is if the leader is inavtive and u dont like that MOVE to another fleet. no one is forcing you. its not fair on the persons that own said fleets.
All I can say is that your logic is flawed:
By your reasoning, if my wife and I have a disagreement about how to punish our son, then one of us should file for divorce rather than talk out the disagreement?
By your reasoning, if my employer decides to lay 50% of the company's workforce off so that the company survives an economic downturn, I should abandon the company and find work elsewhere rather than stay informed and available for my employer?
By your reasoning, if I fail to plan to pay my utility bills and the utility company sends a disconnect notice, I should cry and whine over excuses and go find another utility company?
moral of the story is if the leader is inavtive and u dont like that MOVE to another fleet. no one is forcing you. its not fair on the persons that own said fleets.
I'm not in a fleet, so forgive my ignorance, but I had gathered from reading the forums that it takes many resources from many people to hit the higher tiers of fleet holdings.
If so, seems kind of unfair to ask everyone to abandon their combined efforts, just because the fleet creator did. Not sure I would ever invest in a fleet knowing it would end the second the originator decides he/she is done.
no idea what fleet they would be in, but obviously it isn't the black watch or stonewall. both are awesome fleets.
yeah, any responsible fleets don't need that auto promote thing, they just pass the torch if the leader has real life stuff going on that precludes game play.
If someone got auto promoted, then that's not a good system. What if the next person in line (who actually logs in) is the ensign ricky of the fleet?
sometimes that happens. I'm sure that the "ensign ricky" might go on a power trip or loot the fleet holdings. not a good idea at all.
Well, the patch notes mention "next highest rank". So, I guess poor, power-hungry Ensign Ricky is out of luck.
and besides why punish the leader of the fleet when u already have setting in place so that a rank6 can do what the leader does anyways lol....I mean u can set the setting that way and if leader does go afk for abit stuff still gets done anyways...that how I have it set up so that if im gone for a day or so my guy can still put in projects to get stuff done
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By your reasoning, if my wife and I have a disagreement about how to punish our son, then one of us should file for divorce rather than talk out the disagreement?
By your reasoning, if my employer decides to lay 50% of the company's workforce off so that the company survives an economic downturn, I should abandon the company and find work elsewhere rather than stay informed and available for my employer?
By your reasoning, if I fail to plan to pay my utility bills and the utility company sends a disconnect notice, I should cry and whine over excuses and go find another utility company?
Yeah, your logic fails.
if your boss wants to down size then u cant do jack about it its his company his hard work his money his life etc.. you just work for him. go find another job.
I'm not in a fleet, so forgive my ignorance, but I had gathered from reading the forums that it takes many resources from many people to hit the higher tiers of fleet holdings.
If so, seems kind of unfair to ask everyone to abandon their combined efforts, just because the fleet creator did. Not sure I would ever invest in a fleet knowing it would end the second the originator decides he/she is done.
Well there are a lot of fleets that are basically trainer dictatorships, basically arrogant self-centered people who assume everything must be about them. Those are really the ones you should worry about. Good fleets (both large and small), that have more of a community to them, and aren't run like a private gulag are where you should go if you go into a fleet.
Maybe...but some people have to step up an make sacrifices however so the rest of the people around them can breathe a bit easier.
yeah, which is appreciated, by most people anyways...
but, having the need for people to stand up and make sacrifices...isnt that a thing to think about first?
i mean, sure its kill or be killed, eat or be someone's supper in this world...but, isnt that a totally wrong way of living in the first place?
sure i have people i dont like, some country's that are not my vacation destination...but still, pulling the trigger against it never did bring people good, for some time maybe...but there is always another mad men willing to take revenge, willing to pull another trigger....
i know its not realistic, but world peace sounds still better then world war....just wondering how the new video games will be then.....
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err.. you are mistaken, did u also factor in that pdt is also on daylight saving time too??
Yes thank you. I have teams across 5 timezones and it's still 17:xx GMT/UTC/Zulu. GMT is the baseline it doesn't move. If your clock is showing 18:xx you're in (or your computer thinks it in..) the UK, currently running BST on GMT+1. Bran's 17:30 UTC target is now in 10 mins.
Well there are a lot of fleets that are basically trainer dictatorships, basically arrogant self-centered people who assume everything must be about them. Those are really the ones you should worry about. Good fleets (both large and small), that have more of a community to them, and aren't run like a private gulag are where you should go if you go into a fleet.
and besides why punish the leader of the fleet when u already have setting in place so that a rank6 can do what the leader does anyways lol....I mean u can set the setting that way and if leader does go afk for abit stuff still gets done anyways...that how I have it set up so that if im gone for a day or so my guy can still put in projects to get stuff done
I think this just boils down to the people in the fleet, that can seem suspect.
I'm sure every fleet has that person that joined and you look at him and think
"I'm not sure about you"
I'm not in a fleet, so forgive my ignorance, but I had gathered from reading the forums that it takes many resources from many people to hit the higher tiers of fleet holdings.
If so, seems kind of unfair to ask everyone to abandon their combined efforts, just because the fleet creator did. Not sure I would ever invest in a fleet knowing it would end the second the originator decides he/she is done.
thers is some fleets out there with only a few members and TRIBBLE loads of real money spent getting them upto t4.
the fleet im in have 300(roughly) members and around 20 members that actualy log in and only 5 that really put any worth while time in
I agree with most the sane replies if your going to be away for long periods then change dictatorship er I mean leadership it is irresponsible to run a fleet like that. If you cant do that then you need to see your suffering delusions of grandeur and come back to the real world. No one person makes a fleet its a group effort, if I remember correctly you need a minimum of 5 people to start a fleet in the first place not ONE person but FIVE. Saying that I think some people here suffer multiple personality disorders and nerd rage.
No one likes me the world hates me I am superior to everyone because no one thinks like me !
By your reasoning, if my wife and I have a disagreement about how to punish our son, then one of us should file for divorce rather than talk out the disagreement?
By your reasoning, if my employer decides to lay 50% of the company's workforce off so that the company survives an economic downturn, I should abandon the company and find work elsewhere rather than stay informed and available for my employer?
By your reasoning, if I fail to plan to pay my utility bills and the utility company sends a disconnect notice, I should cry and whine over excuses and go find another utility company?
Yeah, your logic fails.
I think your logic fails. I can't even be bothered to explain why.....
i find it funny i'm refreshing the sto main page to see what todays give away is since it's past the time it's usually posted and i just laugh they take their time putting that up but sure rush the zen promotion sales up fast lol. http://sto.perfectworld.com/news/?p=960071 man heck with zen sales give me the post for todays giveaway Q_Q.
I think this just boils down to the people in the fleet, that can seem suspect.
I'm sure every fleet has that person that joined and you look at him and think
"I'm not sure about you"
Well yeah, but you don't put the people who just joined that you aren't certain about in a position of power. If you have one or two people you are unsure about, the likelihood that your leader would be gone for 180 days, AND once he was gone for 180 days nobody else of a higher rank was online would seem horribly unlikely. Though I am curious what would happen if nobody is online. Is it just whoever logs on next?
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in that cast it "should" be up in 19 mins, although interstellar gravities and temporal anomolies may interfere with this process
aah i understand, thanks for clearing it up.
1 more reason not to join the force, my TRIBBLE belongs to me....
(wasnt slavery (being forced to do, or say,or think) banned long ago? /joke/)
All I can say is that your logic is flawed:
By your reasoning, if my wife and I have a disagreement about how to punish our son, then one of us should file for divorce rather than talk out the disagreement?
By your reasoning, if my employer decides to lay 50% of the company's workforce off so that the company survives an economic downturn, I should abandon the company and find work elsewhere rather than stay informed and available for my employer?
By your reasoning, if I fail to plan to pay my utility bills and the utility company sends a disconnect notice, I should cry and whine over excuses and go find another utility company?
Yeah, your logic fails.
I'm not in a fleet, so forgive my ignorance, but I had gathered from reading the forums that it takes many resources from many people to hit the higher tiers of fleet holdings.
If so, seems kind of unfair to ask everyone to abandon their combined efforts, just because the fleet creator did. Not sure I would ever invest in a fleet knowing it would end the second the originator decides he/she is done.
err.. you are mistaken, did u also factor in that pdt is also on daylight saving time too??
Maybe...but some people have to step up an make sacrifices however so the rest of the people around them can breathe a bit easier.
"wont bind your legs" :P
Well, the patch notes mention "next highest rank". So, I guess poor, power-hungry Ensign Ricky is out of luck.
Strange...
It's never my legs that jeans 'bind up'.
:eek:
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if your boss wants to down size then u cant do jack about it its his company his hard work his money his life etc.. you just work for him. go find another job.
while he is in ruins and bankrupt
Well there are a lot of fleets that are basically trainer dictatorships, basically arrogant self-centered people who assume everything must be about them. Those are really the ones you should worry about. Good fleets (both large and small), that have more of a community to them, and aren't run like a private gulag are where you should go if you go into a fleet.
yeah, which is appreciated, by most people anyways...
but, having the need for people to stand up and make sacrifices...isnt that a thing to think about first?
i mean, sure its kill or be killed, eat or be someone's supper in this world...but, isnt that a totally wrong way of living in the first place?
sure i have people i dont like, some country's that are not my vacation destination...but still, pulling the trigger against it never did bring people good, for some time maybe...but there is always another mad men willing to take revenge, willing to pull another trigger....
i know its not realistic, but world peace sounds still better then world war....just wondering how the new video games will be then.....
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Yes thank you. I have teams across 5 timezones and it's still 17:xx GMT/UTC/Zulu. GMT is the baseline it doesn't move. If your clock is showing 18:xx you're in (or your computer thinks it in..) the UK, currently running BST on GMT+1. Bran's 17:30 UTC target is now in 10 mins.
We so need a "Like" button here !
I think this just boils down to the people in the fleet, that can seem suspect.
I'm sure every fleet has that person that joined and you look at him and think
"I'm not sure about you"
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thers is some fleets out there with only a few members and TRIBBLE loads of real money spent getting them upto t4.
the fleet im in have 300(roughly) members and around 20 members that actualy log in and only 5 that really put any worth while time in
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you could have done that 2 hrs ago...like i did
I agree with most the sane replies if your going to be away for long periods then change dictatorship er I mean leadership it is irresponsible to run a fleet like that. If you cant do that then you need to see your suffering delusions of grandeur and come back to the real world. No one person makes a fleet its a group effort, if I remember correctly you need a minimum of 5 people to start a fleet in the first place not ONE person but FIVE. Saying that I think some people here suffer multiple personality disorders and nerd rage.
No one likes me the world hates me I am superior to everyone because no one thinks like me !
one word, FREAKS !
I think your logic fails. I can't even be bothered to explain why.....
Well yeah, but you don't put the people who just joined that you aren't certain about in a position of power. If you have one or two people you are unsure about, the likelihood that your leader would be gone for 180 days, AND once he was gone for 180 days nobody else of a higher rank was online would seem horribly unlikely. Though I am curious what would happen if nobody is online. Is it just whoever logs on next?