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rweninger
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Let's face it!
STO Developers slowly run out of Canon Ship Design and many (free) Cryptic designs are Ugly as hell. (Many Galaxy and Sovy Variants for example). They look more as placeholder ships then real ships.
But almost every Romulan Ship is great.
However I am not here to troll.
I do like the Kumari. What about bringing more Andorian Ships into STO.
Due the fact they are Cryptic only designs, they wont have a legal issue and of course can design them totally new. Imagine a Andorian Escort Carrier or Cruiser. Maybe a total new Kind of ship. A big Tactical Carrier for example. Would be nice. The only limitation you have is your imagination and that the ship should be recogniced as Andorian design. So it shouldnt look totally different.
STO Developers slowly run out of Canon Ship Design and many (free) Cryptic designs are Ugly as hell. (Many Galaxy and Sovy Variants for example). They look more as placeholder ships then real ships.
But almost every Romulan Ship is great.
However I am not here to troll.
I do like the Kumari. What about bringing more Andorian Ships into STO.
Due the fact they are Cryptic only designs, they wont have a legal issue and of course can design them totally new. Imagine a Andorian Escort Carrier or Cruiser. Maybe a total new Kind of ship. A big Tactical Carrier for example. Would be nice. The only limitation you have is your imagination and that the ship should be recogniced as Andorian design. So it shouldnt look totally different.
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I mean the general design is not really my taste, but i would welcome some more Federation members ships.
There could be some Andorian Cruisers, or something like tactical crusiers.
On the other hand i also would like to see some more Vulcan ships, escpecially Destroyer types or some all round cruisers.
Vulcans of the TNG era don't have any actual warships (TNG:"Reunification" pt.2).
So while the D'Kyr would make some sense and perhaps even some Sciency Cruiser, destroyers/escorts actually don't.
Though more member states ships and a revamp of the Galaxy-X would be nice! :-)
Cruisers somehow lack a special ability in this Escrot and Carrier dominated game!
Believe it or not, they were explicitly called "Vulcan Science Vessels" in the episodes in question.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Vulcan_science_vessel_%2824th_century%29
Yeah an P'Jem was a Monastery! I dont trust people who suppress their Emotions! :-)
Look at the Star Trek Reboot. Spock is a total different character ... cold blooded.
Also the Star Trek Enterprise Science Vessels have got more Firepower then Earth Ships. Ok, now you can argue that they are more advanced, and so ... though. When they got respectable Firepower in the 22nd century, why not now?
Also a Weapons Lab is Science! :-)
I'll just point out the obvious: the model that is used as a science vessel in STO is designated a Combat Cruiser on "Enterprise".
Do you understand the difference?
The science vessels we saw were not science vessels.
And STO is not the canon timeline as CBS pointed out. So whats the Problem with having more ships? I even wouldnt care an Andorian Science Vessel. But I am sure that Andorians arent that scientific.
So I am not here to argue about "Science" Vessels from the Vulcans. This topic is about more member state ships in gerneral.
Really. I dont care if there will be a Vulcan Combat Cruiser in future and if the canon there was never one on screen in the 24th century shows.
It is just nice to see that other races also got freedom of doing stuff in the Federation. And it is boring to see always the same kind of ships just a bit different.
As JamJamz previously pointed out the in Sovereign Saucer Seperation thread, the fact that the game is not canon doesn't mean they can do whatever they want.
They can't break canon on a whim. And as you should have noticed I'm not against member ships in general.
I never said I am.
I'm just against the idea that the post-Kir'Shara Vulcans (the ones that aren't the a-holes we saw when Berman and Braga were calling the shots) that are clearly and explicitly called "pacifists" on screen have destroyers because that would break canon.
Or in the words of the Ferengi warship trader from "Reunification":
"Who would want a Vulcan ship...
Vulcans are pacifists...
I deal in warships...
can somebody get me a napkin... ?"
I'd actually want a decent Tellarite ship that would be something you don't see every day.
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You mean the one that's available at tier 1 for people who bought the Hero of the North Founder?s Pack for Neverwinter?
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Andorian_Light_Escort
However, the Kumari made it in the game. And the dev's could do the same thing they did to the other variations of the foreignowned ships, develop variations. Let's face it, any of the Cryptic designed ships are just variations of the existing ships from the tv shows. And by the way, most of these variations I like even better than the originals. So, just take the marking traits of the Kumari and get it done.
By the way, I am a fan of any other ship beside the federation design. I do not deslike the Fed design, but it got old.
I doubt they'd acquire such advanced technology without being somewhat scientific :P
I'd guess he meant the so-called "Andorian Broadsider"
The day will not save them. And we own the night.
It's the same rubbish people bring up about pretty much every species that's not Human or Vulcan...because everyone must wear a hat in Star Trek.
And only Humans and a few select others are allowed to be actually "smart"...it's probably more partiotic that way.:rolleyes:
Ah, the Loch Ness Monster of STO.
I'm still not convinced it'll ever come but is instead some fan-invention like the "transphasic battlecloak" for the Regent.
yes that's the one
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*splutters* WHAT?
Ha'Feh, Ha'Nom, Ha'anything else. Dhelan, T'Liss (T1)?!? These are good looking to you?
I mean yeah, Mogai, D'D - good lookin' ships. But seriously?
Also, I do fly a Kumari but I'm not a huge fan of the styling - the problem is the nose. It's too big, it's too bulky, and it doesn't fit the rest of the ship. S'how it was in Canon so fine by me, but I really wouldn't call it beautiful.
It's no Galaxy class, or even Thunderchild (love that ship)
EDIT: For Alien ships, the JHEC. Phoooaaarrr.
http://images-cdn.perfectworld.com/www/92/f9/92f96acdd8e267d61fae740a6ec3e7d51358883574.jpg
^^ Gotta be one of the best designs from some angles. It looks so mean...
Kirk's Protege.
I don't know if this is off topic now, but i would like to see one or two ships from the First Federation, assumed they have joined the Federation. Having a spherical (non Borg) federation ship would be interesting IMO.
And yeah, a tellarite ship would definitely be intersting. But as always the art team had to find a way to restrain themselves and not make it look like a Battlestar or something like that.
The big hindrance is that in the following 100 years the Vulcans have changed from the militaristic morons we saw in the B&B era who didn't actually like to explore anything to the peaceful actually logical explorers of TOS where they became so beloved by the fans to the TNG era where the words "vulcan ship" and "warship" are mutually exclusive.
And one thing I wouldn't doubt is that a Ferengi warhship dealer knows a warship when he sees one.
So why would they suddenly relapse 250 years and build warships again?
Wasn't that one of the big issues with Enterprise: that the Vulcans in that show acted so much out of character that even the authors who wrote them out of character admitted in their own scripts they were out of character...and thus admitted they had no idea what they were doing?
A Vulcan Defense Cruiser or a Survey Cruiser would fit the respected Vulcans we both grew up with much better than the treacherous pseudo-Romulans B&B made out of them.
Remember already by the end of Enterprise's 4th season the High Command had been disbanded. And in this game the mightiest combat cruiser of the Enterprise era has become a science vessel.
It's an idea for a new ship so why should it be off-topic?
I don't think it even has to resemble Battlestar in any way.:)
Even on ships crewed entirely by vulcans, they still had human writing on the name.
Anyway, bak on topic. How about a soft canon andorian design, like the Shran class battlecruiser?
It has a rough description, good idea for the obligatory bank trash special console/ability and would be an excellent candidate for a broadsider.
Would be awesome.
There was a thread in favour of it somewhere, can;t remeber where though. Probably necroed by now.
Then please fill out my dissertation survey on feline attachment, it'd be a massive help (-:
https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/87XKSGH
When I found the other wings for the Dhelan it really grew on me.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
With all the canon irregularities in STO, it think this game has begun to slownly dulling my mind, lol.:o
Then maybe Cryptics could make something like a Vulcan defensive Cruiser.
This could be a Science heavy Cruiser, unlike the D'Kyr which is a full science ship.
It could look similar to the Suurok or Surak class (whatever spelling you prefer
In my 3 years of STO i have learned to expect almost everything from Cryptics art team.
The T'Liss is ugly, but the Ha'apax variants all look great! The The Ha'apax is big, powerful, and intimidating. The wings are not drooping down like most Romulan wing design, which makes it look even MORE intimidating, the hull clearly resembles a Bird of Prey or Raptor, and the MU hull looks absolutely stunning. I love how the Ha'apax looks. The Mogai? That's one of the ugliest ships ever, up there with the Dhelan. The D'deridex looks cool, but it's kinda silly, all that wasted space between the hulls and all.
I actually dislike how the Galaxy-class looks. I think it's pretty damn ugly! Just like the Ambassador, it's like they thought "Let's make a big ship with lots of curves and a sleek design!" And then shoved a bunch of non-sleek shapes like L-shaped pylons and superthin areas on the back of the hull, and went with an ugly oval-shaped saucer instead of what is in my opinion a more aesthetically-pleasing round saucer, and even worse, on the Ambassador? The neck is a RECTANGLE. WITH STRAIGHT HORIZONTAL LINES.
Then they got their heads cleared and make streamlined ships like the Voyager and everything was right again.
Maybe we only saw the human branch of starfleet ships, how about creating Vulcan or Andorian inspired Starfleet ship designs?