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The Doctor and the Alternate Universe
steamwright
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No, I'm not kicking off another JJVerse discussion.
During Doctor Who's 10th Doctor's run, there was a storyline about punching through to an alternate universe, foiling that universe's cybermen plot, and eventually getting Rose, her family, the human Doctor and a Tardis seedling to settle into said Alternate Universe.
Hypothetical: The current Doctor Who series sticks to a limit regeneration viewpoint, and closes the book at some point on the story of the Doctor.
Question: Assuming the right production team and actors, would you be interested in a Alternate Universe Doctor Who series?
I'm not talking about bringing David Tennant back, except maybe to kick off the series. Say 10.5, as he's sometimes known, sets off to find the A.U. version of the Doctor, and discovers A.U. Doctor #1. The story then continues with A.U. Doctor #1. Using a classic "timey-wimey" meeting, this could allow two very different looks at a Doctor:
1. Younger Doctor: We'd be able to meet and follow a younger Doctor #1, who may experience events differently to those of the Prime Universe's old gentleman we know and love. For one, he may have a family at first. For another, he may acquire the mark 40 TARDIS in a different fashion.
2. Different People & Personalities: Here's where it gets interesting IMHO: different events means both encountering different companions, and undergoing different regenerations. Doctor #1's moment of regeneration is different, so he no longer become Patrick Troughton, instead he becomes...oh...Peter Dinklage. Doctor #2 does not have his regeneration forced upon him, and #3, never white-haired, is not banished to Earth, and travels with someone other than Jo and Sara. Etc., etc.
So would such a thing appeal to people? Can they form an emotional attachment to an Alternate Universe?
During Doctor Who's 10th Doctor's run, there was a storyline about punching through to an alternate universe, foiling that universe's cybermen plot, and eventually getting Rose, her family, the human Doctor and a Tardis seedling to settle into said Alternate Universe.
Hypothetical: The current Doctor Who series sticks to a limit regeneration viewpoint, and closes the book at some point on the story of the Doctor.
Question: Assuming the right production team and actors, would you be interested in a Alternate Universe Doctor Who series?
I'm not talking about bringing David Tennant back, except maybe to kick off the series. Say 10.5, as he's sometimes known, sets off to find the A.U. version of the Doctor, and discovers A.U. Doctor #1. The story then continues with A.U. Doctor #1. Using a classic "timey-wimey" meeting, this could allow two very different looks at a Doctor:
1. Younger Doctor: We'd be able to meet and follow a younger Doctor #1, who may experience events differently to those of the Prime Universe's old gentleman we know and love. For one, he may have a family at first. For another, he may acquire the mark 40 TARDIS in a different fashion.
2. Different People & Personalities: Here's where it gets interesting IMHO: different events means both encountering different companions, and undergoing different regenerations. Doctor #1's moment of regeneration is different, so he no longer become Patrick Troughton, instead he becomes...oh...Peter Dinklage. Doctor #2 does not have his regeneration forced upon him, and #3, never white-haired, is not banished to Earth, and travels with someone other than Jo and Sara. Etc., etc.
So would such a thing appeal to people? Can they form an emotional attachment to an Alternate Universe?
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There already has been an Alternate Universe Doctor Who series. A series of 8 Audio Dramas called Doctor Who: Unbound, 2 of them feature David Warner playing the Doctor http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Masters_of_War_(audio_story)
I don't think tennants double doctor has a tardis
I also remember reading somewhere that regenerations can go on forever. It was a rule installed by Rassilon to stop Timelords literally being immortal that they stop after 13 lives. I don't know how true this is, but if it is, then there goes the need to stop the current show. At least until he gets back to Tranzalore. Which will be an episode we never see, hence the show runs forever.
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Id like to grow a rose tyler;)
But sumthing i have noticed is that there is not one movie based on the series.
If im wrong, sorry, Let me no plz!?! would like to watch one.:)
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There was a movie in 1996 starring Paul Mcgann's 8th Doctor.
There were also 2 in the 60's but they weren't canonical, starring Peter Cushing as the Doctor they were based on 2 Classic serials, The Daleks and The Dalek Invasion of Earth
And the 50th anniversary episode will be a film in cinemas, Earthshock was also feature length.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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I don't recall her giving her regenerations to the Doctor, she just used all her regeneration energy to bring him back to normal life
Of this I was unaware. Interesting. Is it the same Alternate Universe (AU) that was seen in David Tennant run?
Also, I think some of you misunderstand me. I'm merely setting up a hypothetical. I'm not asking to do away with the current show or timeline. I'm only curious how people would respond if Doctor Who someday created an AU storyline like the current Star Trek movies have for their franchise.
No it's completely different, there's even a Female Doctor in there too played by Arabella Weir http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Exile_(audio_story) and an appearance from the Valeyard http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/He_Jests_at_Scars..._(audio_story).
This series is all about What If's. What if The Doctor never left Gallifrey, what if he never became UNIT's scientific advisor, what if the Valeyard had defeated the Doctor, what if he spent his life going around changing history.
It was done in Let's Kill Hitler. River gave up her regenerations to save the Doctor. Regeneration energy seems to be what causes Regenerations to occur. Every Time Lord has enough Regeneration energy to do 12 or 13 regenerations. The Time Lord Council offered to give the Master more regenerations if he did something for them so that either means the Council was lying or they can transfer regenerations.
Besides without some way to give the Doctor more regenerations, then there would just be one or two more Doctors and they would have to end it. Being able to replenish regenerations through sacrifice is one way to do it. Another is to make the Doctor become some being beyond Time Lords.
Do you refer to the body snatching events in the 1990s movie and The Keeper of Traken? I've wondered of late if they would ever consider using the body snatching technique of the Master with the Doctor, but with a twist. The Doctor would travel with a companion who would be willing to act as a new host. Rather than destroy the host personality, the Doctor would blend with it. And yes, as I think of it, that's similar to a Trill. when I first considered it, I was excited because it meant that potentially the Doctor could then travel with Jackson Lake (the one-shot companion from "The Next Doctor"), allowing David Morrissey to take the mantle eventually. I really like his portrayal of "The Doctor".
But in fact, you've pointed out one of the growing number of excuses they've planted that they could drum up to extend his life: the "second big bang". There's also the "bottle Gallifrey, gain infinite regenerations" theory, and the "use River's regenerations" theory. Possibly a couple of others I've forgotten.
The trouble with the 1990's movie "Deathworm Morphant" (that's what the snakelike form's called) is that bodies taken over don't last long, the first body the Master took over after he escaped death in the Eye of Harmony only lasted 5 years.
Also I don't think the Doctor would use the bodysnatching manouever, it seems out of character for him, he'd either accept his death or somehow come across a way to give himself a new regeneration cycle IMO
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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works fine so long as you don't stand anywhere near Rassalon or his tomb. Otherwise...:eek: