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dragonhawke777
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I recently got back into STO after it went ftp and I am looking for a fleet to join as i get closer to the level cap and endgame. I am a Christian and would like to group with people who are like minded or at least try to keep their chat channels clean. So I am wondering if there are any active Christian or family friendly fleets. I did some searches but most of the posts seem to be old and I am wondering how many if any are still active.
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Just avoid Starfleet Dental. Other than that you wont get a lot of behaviour that will upset you. Well, any more than you normally would in an environment where anonymity is rampant.
If a bit of foul language bothers you you probably shouldn't be playing games with adults.
Damn.
If you can't find a Christian fleet we would welcome you.
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Why is your real-life religion a factor when choosing a fleet? In the TV show, the vast majority of the Federation is atheist. Why do you have to set yourself apart from everyone else because to follow the teachings of a middle-eastern carpenter, rather than any of the other gods? Why does it matter if you are in a fleet with Hindus, Bhuddists, Pagans and Atheists?
I have yet to see any purely Pagan fleets, or purely Atheist fleets, or purely Jewish fleets, but I have lost count of the number of Christian fleets I've seen. And to me, that reeks of an arrogance that is unbecoming to anyone who wishes to emulate Star Trek principles.
I'm not bashing your religion, I just want to know why you feel it's important for something that only affects real life to also be a factor in a game.
I'll give your question a whack... Its the OP's RL Religion is a factor when choosing a fleet, because... well this isn't the show, we really aren't in command of Starships, or Fleets, or what not... hey if you want to RP from your bridge, more power to ya.
It is you who are arrogant here. The OP wasn't trying to get everyone to become, well anything... he/she simply was looking for like-minded individuals to enjoy this GAME with.
As far as not bashing his/her religion.. then you probably should have left out the "And to me, that reeks of an arrogance" part.
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If I wanted to bash Christianity, I could have said so much worse.
Actually many of the Christian guilds i have been part of in a variety of MMOs have NOT excluded nonchristians (WoW, CoH, GW2, and SWTOR). They have certain language/behavior codes that you have to follow, but that is it.
As far as looking for like minded individuals it just gives me another place to talk about things that interest/concern me without having to worry about being trolled for my point of view. And before the topic comes up, no I am not against honest debate, but in general I have found you dont get that in MMOs or forums (barring forums setup for that kind of debate).
We believe in respect for all, whatever their beliefs may be. To be a Christian fleet does not mean to be a fleet or group that thumbs its nose at everyone else. We take all harassment and incivility issues seriously, regardless of who has done it and who is on the receiving end. Nor is sexual harassment permitted; women can come here and find a welcoming and respectful atmosphere (not sure if that is a relevant issue for you?).
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OP, I wish you luck and I hope you find a great fleet
And to the other poster it's not necessarily discrimination to exclude certain people if the club and/or fleet is private. In the real world a club can have selective membership if it remains private but will most likely not benefit from any tax breaks.
If the club is on public land use it can not do that. Anyway, yeah the OP find whatever fleet makes him/her happy and don't impede them.
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I completely agree GrayFox.
Some people here talk about the atheist approach of Star Trek Online and yes Roddenberry didn't touch on religion much because of his beliefs. But I strongly believe that in the era Star Trek is set, everyone is so accepting of each other that it never needs to be raised in discussion, heck they go to other civilisations and you never see them discriminating against their beliefs. You even see in some episodes where they try to learn more about other cultures, that is the idea of Star Trek.
The OP didn't open up a can of worms by being disrespectful towards others who may not follow Christianity, so it is only fair that we all give the same level of respect that he did. This is no different to players wanting Hispanic, Australian, German, British, RP, PVP, PVE, Race Specific or Military Fleets etc.
I wish you the best luck in finding the right fleet for you and don't be deterred by the negative comments you have received
If the species in "Star Trek" can have religious belief systems, I see no problem with players separating themselves into religious fleets.
"Star Trek" is not about atheism.
"Star Trek" is about absolute tolerance. Regardless about a person's culture, sexuality, philosophy, and handicap, the overall message behind "Star Trek" is to achieve absolute tolerance and unity.
While Gene Roddenberry may be an atheist, Lenard Nemoy and William Shatner are Jewish.
As leader of a scientific, family-friendly fleet with international members in all sorts of religious and non-religious belief, my input is the OP has every right to find the community in which he/she feels most comfortable in. It's a personal matter and others should not interfere in a person's personal fleet decision. I don't care what belief a person has within our fleet, so long they respect their fellow members and don't impose their beliefs on others. The OP happens to be religious, and for non-religious people the sentiment against religious oppression is strong as we are constantly bombarded with religious propaganda in the real world, along with the historical awareness of intolerance for freedom of thought.
However, if you're a non-religious person, you would want to be in a fleet where you would feel comfortable, just as the OP wants. If we as scientific minds (and I disdain the word atheist as it implies a tone of discrimination) are truly forward thinkers, then we should not emulate contrary examples, but be the wiser and treat people as human beings regardless of their belief, which is their personal business. Perhaps some of you don't feel treated with that same respect and I understand, but if you want to rise above that, don't copy disrespectful behavior as it only gives an excuse for blanket rhetoric. I wish the best of luck to the OP, I hope you find a fleet were you feel comfortable and are able to enjoy the game with.
I am in a LGBT fleet so for me I wouldn't want to be in a fleet where narrow minded, egotistical, sanctimonious people would pester someone like me just because they have issues concerning their own sexuality
I don't care who you are or what faith you choose to put in with if your a jack TRIBBLE to me am not going to talk you and I will report you to the GM if you bother me with insults. Star Trek is about embracing difference and not seeing it as an enemy but a major asset and that always came through on the shows
So if a purely Christian fleet suits your tastes then go for it just make sure you do plenty of research on them look at posts from various members that can give you a good flavor of what kind of fleet it is.
Also are they a multi game fleet or single just in case you play say Neverwinter for example :P. Last but not least if you find that your not happy in your fleet and your leaders are not dealing with the issue then don't be afraid to leave.
For example I got kicked out of a fleet because I dared to air an :eek: opinion apparently went against the collective of the leaders lol.
Starfleet Dental is far more religious than you. All I would advise the OP is to be careful not to include any religious references in your signature. We have had members receive forum warnings for religious content where some have quoted from our holy book.
As with any general fleet advice. Research and try out some fleets but feel obliged to stay if you don't like the behaviour.
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Hello fellow Christian. I'm not in a fleet but I'm glad there are like minded people out there who can keep it clean and not cloud the air with Plasma Exhaust.:D
Maybe I just caught different episodes than you, but they always came across as diverse and accepting, and not at all as though they all generally atheists. In some cases characters solved problems by participating in the religious rites of peers or aliens.
There must be something greater than us out there, and I don't know what, but maybe we'll find it someday. :cool:
The person who started this thread asked a simple question. There was nothing offensive about it or overtly religious. It was not against the forum rules to ask it. It is totally unnecessary to have a debate about it.
Any post which is not a simple answer to the OP's question is posting off-topic and derailing the thread. I would also like to point out that both pro- and anti- religious discussions of any nature are expressly forbidden by the forum rules.
Do I need to start editing posts and issuing official warnings?
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If I may take off my mod hat for a moment, I'd like to echo markhawkman here.
Please visit our fleet forum here: http://z15.invisionfree.com/Federation_Reborn
We're not specifically a Christian fleet, but unlike here our fleet forums do not forbid friendly discussion of religious topics and you're under no obligation to join our fleet in order to participate on our forums.
We have a very simple code of ethics that's summed up at the bottom of my signature and we are friendly to both casual players and to those who prefer a family-friendly atmosphere.
Even if you don't join us, we'd love to have you as a friend.
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