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cardnal76cardnal76 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
Is there a way to change the sex of your character, Please advise.
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  • flash525flash525 Member Posts: 5,441 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I think there's a clinic on Risa for that sort of thing. ;)
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  • jetwtfjetwtf Member Posts: 1,207
    edited July 2013
    It would make Cryptic some money if they offered a token for 500 zen that would allow you to do that. Infact a token for sex change, race change, and career change at 500 zen each would make allot of money. Why they are affraid to add them I dont know, guess they don't like making money.
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  • binebanebinebane Member Posts: 557 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    more like 1000 zen. ok sex change maybe 500 since it doesnt change anything.
  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    jetwtf wrote: »
    It would make Cryptic some money if they offered a token for 500 zen that would allow you to do that. Infact a token for sex change, race change, and career change at 500 zen each would make allot of money. Why they are affraid to add them I dont know, guess they don't like making money.

    Right, because the smartest move is allowing to play everything with only 3 free character slots, 3 sets of BOs, 3 characters who need doff slot expansion etc. Why not also a token for faction change? So you only need one character slot and don't have to live with the consequences of any choices you make?
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  • ussdelphin2ussdelphin2 Member Posts: 525 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    cardnal76 wrote: »
    Is there a way to change the sex of your character, Please advise.

    Male to female, maybe, ask a Klingon with a sharp Bat'leth to assist you :P

    Female to male, no, your best just rolling another character.
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  • vamerrasvamerras Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    For joined trill captains it should be free.
  • jetwtfjetwtf Member Posts: 1,207
    edited July 2013
    Right, because the smartest move is allowing to play everything with only 3 free character slots, 3 sets of BOs, 3 characters who need doff slot expansion etc. Why not also a token for faction change? So you only need one character slot and don't have to live with the consequences of any choices you make?



    3 characters is what we get and enough to try each career 500 zen to change one of those 3 is 500 zen that may not have been used on new slots, adding a token to change those 3 parts will not hurt the bottom line but add to it because many people will buy one because they get attached to a character. So they get attached to a character and buy a new slot for making an alt. very few will change career just to see what its like and if they do there is the large possibilty they will buy another because they do not like the career.

    For race some may even buy race tokens often just to swap for the race trait depending on what they are doing but not buy new slots just to try a new race. Thats a money maker right there.

    Sex change? Well someone might buy a 500 zen token rather than DELETE the character because they decided thwey want a differant one. And deleting characters because they are disatisfied makes Crytpic/PWE less money than being able to change one. Think about that!

    As for the faction change... No. each free character slot should be locked to a faction and if its not then Cryptic/PWE does not like making money!

    But really i have no idea where you are coming from, lock us players down and want cryptic/pwe to make less money?

    *edit and a huge WTF!! on your logic...

    Make 1 free character and buy all those tokens with zen at $5 a pop to try everything possible is way more money than buying 4 extra slots or 2 extra slots. $15 just to do each token once! and that does not include the retrait or reskill token that may be needed!
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  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    jetwtf wrote: »
    3 characters is what we get and enough to try each career 500 zen to change one of those 3 is 500 zen that may not have been used on new slots,

    May. Cryptic/PWE can make more money by making incentives to create new characters by selling them slots, T1-T4 C-Store ships, doff slots, BO slots,special BOs etc.
    jetwtf wrote: »
    adding a token to change those 3 parts will not hurt the bottom line but add to it because many people will buy one because they get attached to a character. So they get attached to a character and buy a new slot for making an alt. very few will change career just to see what its like and if they do there is the large possibilty they will buy another because they do not like the career.

    For race some may even buy race tokens often just to swap for the race trait depending on what they are doing but not buy new slots just to try a new race. Thats a money maker right there.

    Sex change? Well someone might buy a 500 zen token rather than DELETE the character because they decided thwey want a differant one. And deleting characters because they are disatisfied makes Crytpic/PWE less money than being able to change one. Think about that!

    Changing one's character from a male Klingon scientist to a female Vulcan engineer does not make one "attached to a character" but "too lazy and cheap to level a new one". A new character needs more stuff from the C-Store. Just changing him into a completely new one allows him to re-use everything. THAT would be bad business.
    jetwtf wrote: »
    As for the faction change... No. each free character slot should be locked to a faction and if its not then Cryptic/PWE does not like making money!

    But really i have no idea where you are coming from, lock us players down and want cryptic/pwe to make less money?

    *edit and a huge WTF!! on your logic...

    Make 1 free character and buy all those tokens with zen at $5 a pop to try everything possible is way more money than buying 4 extra slots or 2 extra slots. $15 just to do each token once! and that does not include the retrait or reskill token that may be needed!

    Does not include retrait or reskill? Considering that all species have different trait pools there had to be a retrait included otherwise we'd get mind-melding Klingons.
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  • captainednacaptainedna Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Right, because the smartest move is allowing to play everything with only 3 free character slots, 3 sets of BOs, 3 characters who need doff slot expansion etc. Why not also a token for faction change? So you only need one character slot and don't have to live with the consequences of any choices you make?

    yes because people will grind all rep and sheet many times for the same slot and after you spend 5-6 months grinding you simply delete your toon just to experice other toon.

    that person said 500 zen...that is the price for a toon slot.

    /facepalm
  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    yes because people will grind all rep and sheet many times for the same slot and after you spend 5-6 months grinding you simply delete your toon just to experice other toon.

    Who needs 5-6 months to grind? My Romulan is going to have finished the last reputation in a few days. And if you delete a character you spend so much time and effort on that's your problem.
    that person said 500 zen...that is the price for a toon slot.

    /facepalm

    And a new character will be seduced to buy additional stuff more often. Want a bigger doff roster? Pay up. Want to have a bit easier time leveling? Buy a C-Store ship. Hey, it also gives a nice console that can still be used if you hit T5, right? etc.

    So I see your /facepalm and raise you a keyboard-shattering *headdesk*.:D
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  • notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Male to female, maybe, ask a Klingon with a sharp Bat'leth to assist you :P

    Female to male, no, your best just rolling another character.

    Female to male needs just hanging a carrot and two olives (or three or four depending upon your species)
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  • bughunter357bughunter357 Member Posts: 588 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    As for the faction change... No. each free character slot should be locked to a faction and if its not then Cryptic/PWE does not like making money!

    But really i have no idea where you are coming from, lock us players down and want cryptic/pwe to make less money?

    *edit and a huge WTF!! on your logic...

    that makes no sense what you say here, what if someone does not want to play KDF or Romulan then that leaves them with only one slot to play one of the three classes of Feds that in its self would make Cryptic loose money, no the way they have it where you can choose your faction weather it be 3 feds or one of each was the smart way to go, I'd have to say your logic makes no sense not the other guy.
  • jetwtfjetwtf Member Posts: 1,207
    edited July 2013
    Please quote where i stated racial trates. Please do quote that because i read my post and reread it and see no mention of racial traits. So that means if you buy a 500 zen race token the race trait gets changed with the race, same as when you are choosing a race to begin with. the trait token we buy now cannot change the race trait and i did not suggest it to do so. Thus if you buy a race token and a career token you may want to buy a trait token and a skill token to reset those for the new career.

    I am glad you are not an employee of these game companies making decisions on what to sell because you have about as much of a clue as a turnip. I have 7 characters and if i could buy a race token i would because i would like to change the race on 1 of my toons. i will not reroll that toon to do so. So since i cannot buy a race token Cryptic/PWE lost money. There are many more that would buy one who have multiple characters beyond the 3 free ones.

    Career tokens would sell like hotcakes at an IHOP! how many people decide they do not like a career or want to change one but have no desire to delete the toon or add more toons? Probably more than you and i can count. That is lost revenue.

    A choice of add more characters or change one for more is a good bussiness choice because there are customers who would do one but not the other. having both options means you can sell to both.

    Ships and other C-store items? So you buy 2 extra slots and roll 2 characters of a differant career and then buy new ships or other items for that character... Well why not buy them if the career changes on the character you have? That new Engi made from a sci officer will want a cruiser instead of a science ship, or you made it a tac.. need an escort. The falacy of that argument is almost unreal because it applies to a career change just as much as it applies to a new character.

    And who needs 5-6 monthes to grind... those with little time to play and cannot spend all day doing ESTF, nukara, and rom rep as well as just having some fun, getting dilithium, and fleet marks. Not everyone has enough time to do it all and can take monthes to grind anything. Those people will not buy extra slots because they do not have the time to use all of the ones they have but are prime customers for race, gender, and career tokens.

    Think about it and you may see there are other people playing who could benifit from the tokens and would make Cryptic/PWE money from it. But then again you probably think outfits sell best as a pack instead of individualy or by the pack and think 2500 zen is a micro transaction.
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  • jetwtfjetwtf Member Posts: 1,207
    edited July 2013
    that makes no sense what you say here, what if someone does not want to play KDF or Romulan then that leaves them with only one slot to play one of the three classes of Feds that in its self would make Cryptic loose money, no the way they have it where you can choose your faction weather it be 3 feds or one of each was the smart way to go, I'd have to say your logic makes no sense not the other guy.

    That was to say i disagree with a faction change token with an absurd opposite to it. sarcasm fail methinks. I like that the 3 slots are free to choose faction actualy.
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  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    jetwtf wrote: »
    Please quote where i stated racial trates. Please do quote that because i read my post and reread it and see no mention of racial traits. So that means if you buy a 500 zen race token the race trait gets changed with the race, same as when you are choosing a race to begin with. the trait token we buy now cannot change the race trait and i did not suggest it to do so. Thus if you buy a race token and a career token you may want to buy a trait token and a skill token to reset those for the new career.
    jetwtf wrote: »
    Make 1 free character and buy all those tokens with zen at $5 a pop to try everything possible is way more money than buying 4 extra slots or 2 extra slots. $15 just to do each token once! and that does not include the retrait or reskill token that may be needed!

    There is not just one race trait. Every race has a trait pool it selects from. For example Vulcans do have the mandatory Vulcan race trait and access to optional Mind Meld, Nerve Pinch, and Limited Telepathy. Now you want to change the character into a Klingon. That changes the mandatory race trait from Vulcan to Klingon. But what about the optionals? Either you get a Klingon with partial Vulcan traits or they include at least a partial retrait.
    jetwtf wrote: »
    I have 7 characters and if i could buy a race token i would because i would like to change the race on 1 of my toons. i will not reroll that toon to do so. So since i cannot buy a race token Cryptic/PWE lost money. There are many more that would buy one who have multiple characters beyond the 3 free ones.

    I have 13 characters. Two of them Andorians I leveled specifically for the Andorian escort. One got lost to an Ambassador in between since Cryptic needed half an eternity to release the Kumari.
    jetwtf wrote: »
    Career tokens would sell like hotcakes at an IHOP! how many people decide they do not like a career or want to change one but have no desire to delete the toon or add more toons? Probably more than you and i can count. That is lost revenue.
    A choice of add more characters or change one for more is a good bussiness choice because there are customers who would do one but not the other. having both options means you can sell to both.

    It is also lost revenue when people who would level a new character would simply go the easy way and buy a token to change careers. Maybe I wouldn't have leveled one of my Andorians that way. Maybe I would have changed one of my lesser-played characters. And since he already had a bunch of purples I wouldn't have cared to get Aenar from the C-Store.
    jetwtf wrote: »
    Ships and other C-store items? So you buy 2 extra slots and roll 2 characters of a differant career and then buy new ships or other items for that character... Well why not buy them if the career changes on the character you have? That new Engi made from a sci officer will want a cruiser instead of a science ship, or you made it a tac.. need an escort. The falacy of that argument is almost unreal because it applies to a career change just as much as it applies to a new character.

    Then tell me. Why does your engineer-turned-tactical buy an NX-01? A Gladius? Why does he buy additional doff and boff slots? He doesn't. Because he doesn't need them because he's already level 50 or he already has them, because he is already level 50.
    jetwtf wrote: »
    And who needs 5-6 monthes to grind... those with little time to play and cannot spend all day doing ESTF, nukara, and rom rep as well as just having some fun, getting dilithium, and fleet marks. Not everyone has enough time to do it all and can take monthes to grind anything. Those people will not buy extra slots because they do not have the time to use all of the ones they have but are prime customers for race, gender, and career tokens.

    Because the best thing you can do ?f you can barely play is always changing your character around. I changed the power source of my DC Universe character once. I practically didn't play him since then. The last thing you should do, if you barely have time to play, is turning up in an STF with a class that you didn't learn to play from the ground up.
    jetwtf wrote: »
    Think about it and you may see there are other people playing who could benifit from the tokens and would make Cryptic/PWE money from it. But then again you probably think outfits sell best as a pack instead of individualy or by the pack and think 2500 zen is a micro transaction.

    Ehm, nope, the whole idiocy of selling everything bundled up (One ship, one ship skin and one console 2500 Zen? Thanks, I only want the costume. One Defiant interior please. But without the ancient admirals uniform, the religious fanatic disguise, the Bajoran weapons and the useless shuttle.) has cost Cryptic tons of money.
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  • zenzenarimasenzenzenarimasen Member Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Changing one's character from a male Klingon scientist to a female Vulcan engineer does not make one "attached to a character" but "too lazy and cheap to level a new one". A new character needs more stuff from the C-Store. Just changing him into a completely new one allows him to re-use everything. THAT would be bad business.

    A much larger, more successful company than Cryptic seems to disagree.

    Everquest 2's Potion of Disgenderment, Race Change Potion, and the Norrathian Witness Protection Pack which includes the Potion of Disgenderment and the Potion of Amnesia (name change potion).

    I love those names, Potion of Disgenderment and Norrathian Witness Protection Pack...

    Anyway, I don't really care one way or the other. Just thought I'd point out that Everquest 2, which has its own version of the CStore also has gender and race change items.
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  • sonnikkusonnikku Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    This thread is hilarious. It's almost like OP asked for TRIBBLE marriage to be legal only to get the "dogs and toasters" knee jerk routine.
  • franc275franc275 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I didn't read every response here, there were some hefty walls of text, so if this is in way out of line or not on topic, I apologize. But here's my views on the topic.

    Sex change token = Yes - probably similar cost to rename token (500 Zen I think) - nothing other than clothes (that I know of) is male / female specific - and of course if you had purchased any of these, you lose them all - all costumes, etc.

    Race change token = yes, but should be higher in cost, like 1,000 Zen because it would require a retrait token, so essentially you're buying both.

    Career change token = mmm, no however I wouldn't mind something along the lines of a "reset" token / option. Let me explain:

    This is a working set of ideas: There would be certain requirements that need to be met, including but not limited to:
    Must be level 50
    Must have TRIBBLE accolade points
    Must have T3(5) Rep in X Rep areas

    Then - once requirements are met, a mission becomes available - it is solo, Captain only - no BOFFs no Teaming. Could either by a BOSS type mission, or if could be a Logic type mission - a bunch of problem solving, or item gathering (I know grind grind grind, shhh just continue). That at the end, you can start up brand new at level 1 as any career.
    But - you get to keep all of the items you accumulated (unavailable until you hit level 50 on reset toon) as well as the ships purchased, etc.
    What benefit you say? You get to keep one captain skill. :eek: I know right!!!!

    To make cryptic money I'm sure there would be a cost, I'm thinking like 2,500-5,000 Zen to wipe everything and start new. But I think there should be the ability to not wipe everything, like just reset level and career, reset level career and race, reset level career race and sex. etc.

    It's not perfect, but I think it has some merrit. It would make PVP a nightmare if it's not revamped in a couple of months, but the requirements needed should not be something that can happen over night - rep is time gated, 20 hour projects etc. so time gate this, only allow 1 reset per 30 days etc.

    Talk about wall of text, sorry about that.
  • zenzenarimasenzenzenarimasen Member Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Everquest also has a lot more variety with the types of characters that can be created so there is a lot more stuff to entice players to create new characters

    Ok... *goes and gets lost in the character creator on STO for hours without even touching the Create Your Own Alien race*
    Whereas STO only has three types of characters that can be made Sci, Tac, and Eng. All the skills are identical, the only difference between races being traits and appearances.

    Technically speaking, on Everquest you only have one more type of character than STO has. You have the meat shield, the DPS, the healer, and the mezzer. STO has all those but they cut up the healer and mezzer classes and distributed their aspects both between both Engineering and Science.
    And the traits aren't all that noticeable so once a person has made a Sci, Tac, and Eng there really isn't a reason to make another character other than as an expression of ones personal creativity within a very limited system.

    You know what else EQ2 has that STO doesn't have? A lot more things in their microtransaction store... A LOT MORE... Granted, they only really have a single race you can buy, namely the Freeblood/vamp race. But the sheer variety of things to buy... They even have everything you need to buy a house, including the land on which to build it, and the stuff with which to furnish it... Much of it is single character only, like the appearance items.

    EQ2 is also free to play, also has no real content restrictions for F2P players outside of the tier of equipment you can equip and a few variant classes you can't create (but you can still play as so long as you have the character already created when you stop subscribing), has fewer players than STO, and yet somehow EQ2 having gender and race change potions hasn't spelled the doom of Station Store transactions that is predicted for STO if it were to do it.

    Heck that's something EQ2 has the Champions Online (STO's sister game) doesn't have... On CO, if you stop subscribing, you lose your gold characters. EQ2 doesn't do that to you.
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  • azniadeetazniadeet Member Posts: 1,871 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Why would anyone be upset by another player having the option to purchase a cosmetic change for their player?
  • erei1erei1 Member Posts: 4,081 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    You know what else EQ2 has that STO doesn't have? A lot more things in their microtransaction store... A LOT MORE... Granted, they only really have a single race you can buy, namely the Freeblood/vamp race. But the sheer variety of things to buy... They even have everything you need to buy a house, including the land on which to build it, and the stuff with which to furnish it... Much of it is single character only, like the appearance items.
    And most of it are item to remove restrictions we don't have in STO.
    Just imagine for a second : having to pay to use purple items, having to pay for reputation, to make a Romulan, or a Tac, to go to Tau Dewa Sector, or the lvl 40 to 50. Because the EQ2 f2p look like this.

    While there are some stuff I would love to see in STO (EQ2 housing is superb, nothing else to say), a lot of the "f2p" features are bad, really bad.
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  • zenzenarimasenzenzenarimasen Member Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Oh so now your switching from Everquest to Everquest 2? Okay. Sure EQ2 has more microtransactions.

    I was always talking about EQ2, sometimes I made a mistake and said Everquest instead of Everquest 2, but when I typed it, everything I've typed was always about EQ2. I'm unaware if EQPC (which is what EQ1 is called internally as opposed to EQMac, they're called differently internally on SOE's side) has a Potion of Disgenderment, and certainly unsure if it has a race change potion. Last time I played EQPC, there were class restrictions for races. No Vah Shir druids or mages, just for example.
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  • zenzenarimasenzenzenarimasen Member Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Well if you were ever on the CoH forums when they introduced that feature you'd have seen one of the loonies arguing that being able to change a characters gender encouraged children to engage in cross dressing which would lead to sinful homosexual behavior.

    And boy was that guy ticked off when everyone unanimously laughed at him and his silly notions.

    Is there an archive where I can see that thread? I think it's funny that he would have a problem with that as opposed to the Eden pattern in CoH. Or that he wouldn't have a problem with "encouraging children to be vigilantes and beat people up." But I suppose he probably did enough of that when he was a kid... beating up people he deemed to be morally inferior... probably gays and transfolk judging by the sound of it.
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  • kirkryderkirkryder Member Posts: 149 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Ill keep it simple, I would like a sex change please... :D


    I should have done a female for my first toon, however I did a male, as I am also male... But here is the logic in this, it is much nicer watching a female run around then a male all day long.

    So I am in favour of a sex change. Around 500Zen is very acceptable.

    Everything else mentioned in this thread is a waste of time and effort!

    Where talking SEX CHANGES not the whole game! :eek:
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  • pingaheadpingahead Member Posts: 249 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    If you get incarcerated in the State of New York, the state will pay the bill for a Sex Change Operation...........
  • zenzenarimasenzenzenarimasen Member Posts: 181 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Don't get me wrong, I don't care one way or the other. I just don't think it would spell doom for the cstore if race and sex changes were in the cstore, like some people suggest.
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