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  • captainwestbrookcaptainwestbrook Member Posts: 224 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Jumped on trible to test carrier changes, found my ship stations for main ship and shuttle not showing nor and BO powers fidled about a bit and found workaround. go to ship selector change to a old ship and back to current should fix it if anyone else runs into same bug

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  • redshirtthefirstredshirtthefirst Member Posts: 415 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    • Klingon Academy lore missions are now available to KDF characters starting at level 10, instead of level 21.

    Will we see everything brought back to reflect KDF starting at lvl1; mining at lvl 9 (not 24) and so on?
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  • tpolebreakertpolebreaker Member Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Will we see everything brought back to reflect KDF starting at lvl1; mining at lvl 9 (not 24) and so on?


    So much this... It's been forever, and this is just a really lazy non-fix. Seriously, sit down while eating your lunch sammich and fix the db.
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  • guli20guli20 Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The Carrier Pets enhancements are awesome!

    But this must be a joke:

    Known issues:
    Hangar Bay fighters do not re-launch once docked.
    When Hangar Bay fighters are destroyed in combat, reinforcements cannot be launched until the reinforcements have been completely cleaned up.


    Because this makes 50% of the changes useless..
    Are these issues happening everytime or are they random?
  • ussberlinussberlin Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    nice but the Known issues make it again bad
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  • adamkafeiadamkafei Member Posts: 6,539 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Kit swapping is probably not long for this world. We're not sure exactly how we're going to fix it

    Well the current fix hit engineers excessively hard, a better option would be to allow kit swapping but to ensure that if a kit buff is active on a given character (tactical and science kit buffs) then the new copy should not take (if used by the same player that activated the existing copy) and engineers should be able to use other kit skills without losing turrets from different kits should replace the existing ones rather than the existing ones vanishing as they currently do, this would give engineers back an ability to lock down a room.

    Or even better, just limit the permitted instances of each ability (per character) so that kit swapping doesn't make too much difference
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  • bignutterbignutter Member Posts: 125 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Can you expand on this?
    Do a simply launch pets and the timer starts?
    Do "I", the spawning ship, have to be in red alert for the timer to tick away? Or is it based on whether the pet has a target and be shooting at it?
    What about pets in guard mode, do they rank up as they guard a target that is not under attack?

    Can fighters rank up faster if they make a kill?

    Not Cryptic.. But I played a bit with the new UI in a Atrox. But I only ran one Mission while Escorting Gekli. This Mission I ran almost twice every day with both the Atrox and the Vo'quv, and I use all of the Pet commands in this mission a certain points.

    Pets seem to level up based on time in Red Alert. Given that I often command my pets to attack and I stand back outside Red Alert, I'd say Pet's Personal "Red Alert".

    I think that when in for Guard Mode, as long as they're in "Red Alert", They'll level up.

    Apparently Kills don't speed up the Level up Process, but I only got a single Pet kill in that Mission.

    Personally, I like changes. But the Current "known issues" really hurt it.
  • sunfranckssunfrancks Member Posts: 3,925 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Why can I not claim the vet ship on my lifetime account?
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  • robos8robos8 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I've discharge one ship to take the Romulan Vet ship... but it's broken, the lotus and the animation don't work. And it's not costumizable
  • monkeybone13monkeybone13 Member Posts: 4,640 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    How about fixing the color palates for the Reman Nemesis uniform I payed for? The shoulder pads appear to have the correct palate with a large selection of bright colors but the rest have the darker limited Federation color pallet. I can only get the purple colors I want on the shoulderpads because the rest don't have a purple color.
  • gunnynew19gunnynew19 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    this patch sounds very bad to me, especially pets with special abilitys will ber nerved up to 25% of their damage, because all of there special abilitys are 'unskilled' wich means they have a 1,30 min cooldown, normal recharge rate iss at max 50 secs. and you even cannot replace them if they arent destroyed...TRIBBLE!!! i can only hope that the ai changes dont work, because now i want that they will be destroyed on a warpcore breach!!! And i cannot believe that cryptic can advance the AI of pets, because until now, they are incredible stupid, especially the elite BoP?s...they have quad cannons and rapid fire, but the AI doesnt use these good weapons....they fly around the target and only using their turret...in an stf....the BoP's shoot 50 times (including RF)...same time they shoot with turret over 900 times.
    Now i will only buy ec-pets...because the differences between normal, advanced and elite pets dont justify their price!!!:(


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  • alkeldaalkelda Member Posts: 148 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    So how am I to acquire the 1000 day Romulan ship on Tribble when my Tribble account does not seem to recognize that I am a lifetime subscriber? I do not fly carriers Starfleet-side on Holodeck, so how am I to try out the new changes in carrier pets on Tribble when I can't spend my Tribble-zen buying a carrier there?
  • topsettopset Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    alkelda wrote: »
    So how am I to acquire the 1000 day Romulan ship on Tribble when my Tribble account does not seem to recognize that I am a lifetime subscriber? I do not fly carriers Starfleet-side on Holodeck, so how am I to try out the new changes in carrier pets on Tribble when I can't spend my Tribble-zen buying a carrier there?

    You can't. Wait 'till it hits on Holodeck tomorrow.
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  • eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,049 Bug Hunter
    edited July 2013
    Can we have nun-scaling Dreadnought groups for space cumbat in the fundry? That would be awesum for boss fights. :)
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  • salamiinfernosalamiinferno Member Posts: 159 Cryptic Developer
    edited July 2013
    topset wrote: »
    You can't. Wait 'till it hits on Holodeck tomorrow.

    This build wont be hitting holodeck tomorrow, but it will be coming soon.
  • hylanvahrhylanvahr Member Posts: 110 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    alkelda wrote: »
    So how am I to acquire the 1000 day Romulan ship on Tribble when my Tribble account does not seem to recognize that I am a lifetime subscriber? I do not fly carriers Starfleet-side on Holodeck, so how am I to try out the new changes in carrier pets on Tribble when I can't spend my Tribble-zen buying a carrier there?

    I echo this concern with attempting to claim the new destroyer on my Reman VA, but can't even though I'm LTS too. I think the mistake I made when I went to the requisitions officer is asking for another req form. This probably broke the claim, even though it says I have the item to get one. It just doesn't seem to recognize my LTS status on Tribble. Huge disappointment, but if it helps prevent this bug from persisting until it goes live, then I can wait I suppose... :(

    Ticket ID #42,214.

    On the bright side, my compliments to the artist(s) for this new bird. She's gorgeous, even in the small preview I can see at the shipyard. Possibly one of the sleekest and most visually appealing ships in the entire game. Nicely done!
  • saxfiresaxfire Member Posts: 558 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    is the cloaked barrage gonna be fixed any time soon? when you activate it, it consumes your ambush bonus and doesnt reactivate once you decloak
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  • virusdancervirusdancer Member Posts: 18,687 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I posted the following ~questions~ in another thread where the Disruptor Proc mechanics were recently explained...but I'm not sure if that threads going to get hit up again, so I'll quote them here...in the hopes of perhaps getting an answer.
    Thing is, Hull Damage Resistance doesn't work like Shield Damage Reduction.

    On one of my guys, his base DR is 27.0%.

    Following info from STOwiki:
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Skill:_Starship_Threat_Control
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Skill:_Starship_Hull_Plating
    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Damage_resistance

    Can easily see how he got to the 27.0%...

    Threat Control 3: +5.4 DRR
    Hull Plating 6: +12.6 DRR
    Accolades: +2.0 DRR
    Neut Mk XI: +17.5 DRR
    +37.5 DRM...DR=(3*(0.25-(75/(150+DRM))^2))...27.0% DR

    APO3 adds +35.5 DRM...our expected new DR would be: 41.06%
    It displays 41.1%

    AtS1 adds +16.4 DRM...popping that with the APO3 up, would expect 45.556% - which I'd have rounded to 45.6% but the system rounds to 45.5%.

    The buffs are adding DRM/DRR - they're not percentages like the shield stuff. The buffs being added don't calculate like SDR does. It's not a case of calculating the DR from the 35.5 DRM and then working through the shield formula. It's just adding the DRR to the DRM and then calculating the new DR.

    We know from what Hawk said, that the Disrupt 10% is resisted by the DR. So with that 27% guy, his DR would drop to 19.7%.

    DR=(3*(0.25-(75/(150+DRM))^2))
    .197 = (3*(0.25-(75/(150+DRM))^2))
    0.06566666666666666666666666666667 = (0.25-(75/(150+DRM))^2)
    (75/(150+DRM))^2 = 0.18433333333333333333333333333333
    75/(150+DRM) = 0.42934057964899303626287485420243
    174.68649262391217569465975080569 = 150 + DRM
    24.686492623912175694659750805694 = DRM

    +35.5 from APO3, would result in a DR of ~36.8%

    That's if the APO3 was applied after the Disrupt was applied to the base.

    41.06%, ~35.2%% would be what it would be if it were applied to the base + APO3.

    So a case of figuring that it doing the recalc after buffs were applied (wore off) being more likely, but just wanting to make sure.

    But the other part was regarding other debuffs...which gets a little complicated, eh?

    APB/APD apply a -DRR modifier. So does the Mega Torp.

    So for the most part, do those just plug into the overall DRM calc to determine DR and then the Disrupt proc is applied as a final mod - being recalculated as all of that changes?

    Doesn't matter if the DRM goes negative...

    If we look at the formula: NDR = ODR - (10 - (ODR * 0.1) ex: 40 - (10 - (40 * 0.1) = 34%

    So going back to the guy from above. 27 - (10 - (27 * 0.1) = 19.7%

    But let's apply a -47.1 DRR debuff from shooting at somebody sporting APD3.

    37.5 + (-47.1) = -9.6 DRM = -10.6% DR
    -10.6 - (10 - (-10.6 * 0.1) = -21.66% DR

    Say we apply that 100 damage...
    100 * 1.106 = 110.6
    100 * 1.2166 = 121.66

    The Disrupt proc is still adding 10% damage.

    So again, just making sure that the Disrupt proc was a final modifier...

    ((BaseDRM + (+BuffsDRR) + (-BuffsDRR))converted to DR - Disrupt = new DR

    That it's recalculated like that each time a buff/debuff is added/wears off...
    As an aside, regarding things like APD3.

    Consider the following:

    0 DRM - 47.1 = -84.4%, meaning 184.4% damage is taken.
    vs. 0 DRM = 0%, meaning 100% damage is taken.
    An increase of +84.4% damage.

    37.5 DRM (27% DR) - 47.1 = -10.6%, meaning 110.6% damage is taken.
    vs. 37.5 DRM = 27%, meaning 73% damage is taken.
    An increase of +37.6% damage.

    73 DRM (base + APO3) - 47.1 = 20.5%, 79.5% damage is taken.
    vs. 73 DRM = 41.1%, meaning 58.9% damage is taken.
    An increase of +20.6% damage.

    Is it really supposed to be variable like that?

    Well, because things appear to stack (only did the the APB/APD part). As in Player A could drop out APD - Player B could fire up APB - Player C could drop out a Mega Torp...

    So the APD applies -47.1...
    With the APB applying -37.8...
    And the Mega Torp doing -33...
    For a total of -117.9 DRR.

    That 0 DRM guy would take +1562.7% damage.
    The 37.5 DRM guy (27% DR) would take +273.4% damage.
    The 73 DRM guy (27% base + APO3) would take +77.8% damage.

    So is it variable like that...or...is the tooltip thing a display issue and APD/APB/etc are actually doing a percentage thing like the Disruptor proc?
  • webdeathwebdeath Member Posts: 1,570 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    This build wont be hitting holodeck tomorrow, but it will be coming soon.

    Oh thank god.. I could have just seen tons of problems some how occurring from the Carrier changes alone.. Especially with the most recent release of the Scimitar. :o
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  • starshard1starshard1 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Some Veteran Rewards for Romulan players will be visible in this build.

    Head to New Romulus Command to claim the 1,000 day reward Daeinos Heavy Destroyer.

    Nice to see the vet rewards coming out. Any ETA on the captains yacht equivalent ?
  • masterkeychnk5masterkeychnk5 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    ........

    "Resolved an issue that caused the Destablized Plasma Torpedo to fly much slower than intended."

    What about the bug that lowers all your cooldowns when using this torpedo including Attack pattern alpha? LOL
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  • maddinm214maddinm214 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Salamiinferno, you said for a weeks ago the german Players become a large localisation update. when is it?
  • balordezulbalordezul Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    [*] Some Veteran Rewards for Romulan players will be visible in this build.
    • Head to New Romulus Command to claim the 1,000 day reward Daeinos Heavy Destroyer.
    • More veteran rewards coming soon!


    So this is not working for KDF Romulans?

    Also to Jeremy will be seeing another updated on hanger pet AI? I'm personally really disappointed out little my Qaw'Duns can use their cannons.

    BTW I'm one of the two players that help you test the AI last time and not the one that was the jerk.
  • darthwoodarthwoo Member Posts: 371 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    The fighter update looks promising, but is any work being done toward correcting the AI so fighters don't just go randomly flying to every part of the map except where your current target is?
  • organicmanfredorganicmanfred Member Posts: 3,236 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    maddinm214 wrote: »
    Salamiinferno, you said for a weeks ago the german Players become a large localisation update. when is it?


    For me it is always a trial and error when the beam down buttons at New Romulus are both titled "Zur Botschaft runterbeamen" (Beam down to embassy) :D

    and the button to beam down and enter the Risa Summer Event is called "nicht jetzt" (not now)
  • maddog0000doommaddog0000doom Member Posts: 1,017 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    so how does this ranking up system work with skull fighters?

    and for the love of baby jesus its not a carrier if it only has one hanger.

    FIX this add hangers to the carriers that have been left out.
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  • whytelyonwhytelyon Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    [*]Orbital Strike (All Ranks) for Romulan Republic officers now deals plasma damage, has an appropriate plasma visual and has secondary plasma effects. The power's tool tips have been updated to reflect these changes.

    Any chance of updating Republic Turrets/Drones to do the proper Plasma damage as well, instead of Phaser turrets and the like?
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  • softtop97softtop97 Member Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Well, i didn't see anything about the mail being fixed... i took 30 mins to have my files verified and then logged in to see one toons mail work one time and then nothing after that. None of my other mail accounts worked at all. I think i still have only about 35 mail in my folder right now. :mad: was able to clean out alot of it tho it was 1/4 to 1/2 of what It USED to be... So now your doing things from what i have heard; doing changes to make pvp ( 2%) of your player base happy. **Messing with hanger pets and Nurfing things that should be just left alone.

    {{ Good concept ... mess with things that are not that important and make very few happy and TRIBBLE off 98% of everyone else }} i hope this isn't true but i guess we will find out in the coming weeks...
    Sorry, its been a long day its 2:40 am and i'm tired
  • atronach1atronach1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    can we not fly the 1000 day reward ship yet???
  • ussberlinussberlin Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    maddinm214 wrote: »
    Salamiinferno, you said for a weeks ago the german Players become a large localisation update. when is it?
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    looks like today

    http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?p=11444181#post11444181

    bud bad that the 1000 day Rom Ship not comming too today
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