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Best escort for fun?
weirdtrekie30
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Hey all,
I currently have a fleet heavy escort carrier + yellowstone runabouts as my bread and butter ship and it's a great ship, can take a heck of a lot of damage in PvP. .
But, playing PvE, it's almost over survivable, if you know what I mean. . So I'm thinking of buying another escort, just for fun and only for PvE.
I'm torn between the fleet defiant and one of the andorian escorts. .
Does 5 fore weapon slots really make as much of a difference in PvE as it does on paper?
Out of the two, which would you pick? Which would be more "fun" to fly?
Bare in mind, this is for having fun and strictly PvE, for PvP, I'll always stick to my fleet HEC!
I currently have a fleet heavy escort carrier + yellowstone runabouts as my bread and butter ship and it's a great ship, can take a heck of a lot of damage in PvP. .
But, playing PvE, it's almost over survivable, if you know what I mean. . So I'm thinking of buying another escort, just for fun and only for PvE.
I'm torn between the fleet defiant and one of the andorian escorts. .
Does 5 fore weapon slots really make as much of a difference in PvE as it does on paper?
Out of the two, which would you pick? Which would be more "fun" to fly?
Bare in mind, this is for having fun and strictly PvE, for PvP, I'll always stick to my fleet HEC!
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Isn't that the retrofit of the T2 escort? If that's the case, then the fleet patrol escort is better in every aspect except that the fleet saber has +1 turn rate.
OP, I have the fleet defiant but not the Andorian escorts. The cloak is really fun and the ship is decently survivable. As for the Andorian one, I can't tell you much about it.
There is a retrofit, this the fleet retrofit
Yes, so it is what I was thinking of. Again, the fleet patrol escort is better in every aspect except the Fleet Escort has 1 more point of turn.
Fleet Defiant, 3x tac romulan embassy doff's +6% crth +15% crtd.
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The add'l damage right out of cloak is nice, but then you can't cloak again until at least 15 seconds (more time if you are still under red alert). So that advantage isn't useful much of the time.
You can get the Steamrunner pack on Steam for $19 til next week. I'd personally pay the old $10 sale price for it just for something new to fly (plus the consoles), but not $19.
Edit: I should definitely mention that the cloaking device DOES NOT come with the fleet defiant. You need to use the cloaking device from either the Z store Defiant or Z store Galaxy X, or else no cloaking.
The fleet sabre caught my eye too. Nice turn rate and inertia. The steamrunner is an interesting choice - nice boff layout. . a place for aux2damp, for faster turn rate.
No votes for the andorian ships? Interesting. I would have thought the 5 fore weapon slots a big plus on PvE.
The Andorian Escort, with the 3pc. wing cannon set, is plenty amusing. I use a Khyzon but the way I have it set up a Charal would do the exact same thing. I don't use it as much as I should, considering everything I've invested into it, but it really rocks in PvE.
Also consider the Fleet Advanced Escort: the entertainment value of an escort that can use Grav Well 1 cannot be overstated.
Or if you really want TacSci for lulz, consider the Aventine (Tac Vesta)
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Actually the original poster said that he was lamenting the fact that his HEC could more or less tank everything in PvE implying he wanted something a bit more fragile, and as someone who has the Fleet Saber it is one of the most fragile endgame escorts out there, but it's still viable.
I also have to agree that it looks pretty good.
Lt. Com tac stations, 2 Lt Eng, 1 sci Ens.
I use 2 DHC up front suplemented with 1 beam array and a quantum torp ( all fleet advanced)
In the rear is a quantum, a turret and another beam array.
It is fittet with CRF3, THY3, BO3, TSSEngines, CSV1, THY1 and TT1
The LT Engines both have EtS 1 in adittion to an RSP1 and AsSif1
The Sci Ens is occupied with HE1
It has 3 Tier III abilities that deal massive damage, the beam overload can break shields while i turn away or into the enemy and the torpedoes use that gap alot. most things go boom in one pass.
Against targets with higher defences i use TSS Engines to slow them down, the Cannons than can do even more damage.
The ship is equiped with a graviton pulse and the omega Set with its gravimetric anchor.
So defences against me are always low.
When it comes to consoles it uses 4 phaser relay XI purple, assimilated module, tachyokinetic converter, zero point energy conduit, rule 62 console , plasmonic leech and the aformentioned graviton pulse.
The warpcore is a purple mk XI fieldstabilizing core with engine capacitor, coil, reduced slipstream cooldown and aux to weapons bonus.
Doffs are 2 purple conn officers, 2 projectile officer and 1 exocomp
Important for that built is at least 3 points in flow capacitors, full points in projectile weapons and alot of points in engine performance and manouvering thrusters.
I tried most escorts but the steamrunner is imho the perfect blend of firepower, survivability and mobility.
Most other escorts are either fragile or rather specialized. The steamrunner can do it all, pure cannon escort, beamboat, torpedo boat or a mix like my ship.
Its evil, imho looks great and not everyone and their mother is flying it.
But lately I've also been running around in the Fleet T'varo... Yikes! <VBG> It's Tier 1 and light years ahead of the Charal - albeit - it's for a Romulan types. The Dreadnoughts are a totally different species/learning curve, still learning!
2x APB, 2x FAW is the key to beamscorting. Keep those tac buffs running constantly.
I just got mine and I'm loving the thing, especially the Torpedo Spam console.
Have you considered something other than an Escort? A Cruiser (Assault R Beams, Excelsior Cannons) what about a Carrier. Anything but the Atrox. Maybe roll a Romulan and try a different play style?
Have you worked on getting the Risian Corvette? Could be worth trying it's light weight at 27k hull and has a similar BOFF layout to the HEC. Also it comes in like 8 colours before trying shields.
If I was to choose between TER and Andorian I'd go the Andorian, not knocking the TER which is a terrific little ship, but the Andorian has more things to play with on it. And it's meant to be a Glass Cannon.
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I also use a nanite disruptor build.. but the skill planner doesn't have nanite disruptors on it so I made one with disruptors to show the build basically the same though.
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First of all, yes the fleet HEC is fun! With the MACO adapted set, the torp console is basically a three minute "Kill every thing" button. Couple with torpspread 3, and it is THE escort for crowd control.
Yes, I'm looking forward to trying the Risan ship, it looks like it could be fun.
I had considered changing loadout rather than ship - A beamscort is broadsiding with single beam arrays, rather than fore DBB beams correct? That could be fun with FAW up constantly, particularly with torp spread 3. This would allow me to hit more targets, as scatter volley is 3 targets max. Then I'd just have to have two sets of BOFFs and weapons for PVP nd PVE. Now, with three purple doffs that reduce EptX cooldown, I'm running full uptime of EptS 3 and EptW 1 (Which gives 10% energy damage for 30 secs) I believe the 10% energy weapon buff from EptW is applied on top of everything else, so it's better than a fifth console.
I think a few of you have got it right, that what I'm looking for is more a glass cannon, hence why it was a toss up between the tac andorian and the fleet defiant. I wouldn't want the three pack, as I'd strip the wing cannon out and put in my own loadout and consoles. Isometric charge is a key part of any of my builds and I'm specced for it, so wouldn't want to change that.
What about tac andorian with DBB? With constant up time of FAW and maybe torp spread 3, more targets than the max of 3 of CSV.
Well, you've all given me plenty to think about and thanks for your advice
As of now, I'm considering beamscourt loadout, or andorian tac. But loosing the torp console is biggie.
the DBB i use with BO2 it has a decent spike damage and melts the shield facing pretty quick.