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hanger elite jem'hadar attack ship BO2 only ??

jarheardjarheard Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited July 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
yes ..i understand most people in this game dont have access to these pets as the price they require and the attack ship u need with it

this is exactly the point however.

every other hanger pet with beam overload 1 ..goes up to 2 in advanced versions and 3 in elite

why not the pets who are suppose to be THE BEST PETS in the game .

before u start the "oh cry me a river" answers , the bug attack ship was revamped twice already as far as i recall just to keep it ahead of the other newer ships.
there is a very good reason this ship sells for 400mil alone .

given that to get the bug ship / hanger pet combo one will pay about 500mil or so
i think its only logical that the elite jem'hadar attack ships will get the proper upgrade
upgrade they deserve

every other pet gets a mark iii on its attribute in elite level ..the voquv bird or prey , the drone ships, mesh weaver, ferjai frigates ..etc...

why not the suppose best pet then ??? :eek:
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  • notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I concur. JHAS costs an arm, a leg, a kidney and an eye. JHAS pet has the most demanding requirement in the game, so it would be fair if this pet is equipped with BOIII, CRFIII and probably with TSIII or THY III.
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  • starfleetmacostarfleetmaco Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I have to agree with the gremlin here! Finally he says something that is rational!


    Anyways, I do think the Elite jem'hadar attack ships should have beam overload 3, not 2. Additionally with CRF3, I think HYT 3 is asking a bit too much, especially with BO 3.



    PS: expect this to be on your bill, gremlin :)
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    No. Just No.

    You guys are failing to account that the JHAS hangar units all have Antiproton Sweep. Not only do they drop enemy cloaks within those cones, they also do a number in stripping shield strength. If you got anywhere of 6-8 of these things using their attacks and AP sweep, it can do a number. These units are quite fine the way they are. The Advanced Versions also still perform quite well.

    You guys want Emergency Power to Shields 3 with these things also? Along with Engineer Team 3? And Attack Pattern Omega 3?
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  • jarheardjarheard Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    warmaker001b wrote: »
    No. Just No.

    You guys are failing to account that the JHAS hangar units all have Antiproton Sweep. Not only do they drop enemy cloaks within those cones, they also do a number in stripping shield strength. If you got anywhere of 6-8 of these things using their attacks and AP sweep, it can do a number. These units are quite fine the way they are. The Advanced Versions also still perform quite well.

    You guys want Emergency Power to Shields 3 with these things also? Along with Engineer Team 3? And Attack Pattern Omega 3?

    ill be blunt.. , from the "you guys" you clearly dont have ship so u cant understand the concept of it , if other bug pets progress from bo 1 to 3 , high yield 1 to 3 and faw 1 to 3 according simple , advanced, elites . there is no reason why this one should not.

    and as for the numbers of them ...would it be any different if u see 6-8 elite mesh weavers with faw3 and beta 3 ganging up on 1 target?? i think not.

    im against adding new power as high yield ...but bo2 should be up to 3 ccause this is elite and this is suppose to be the best elite a person can get on this game.
  • iskandusiskandus Member Posts: 1,062 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    jarheard wrote: »
    yes ..i understand most people in this game dont have access to these pets as the price they require and the attack ship u need with it

    this is exactly the point however.

    every other hanger pet with beam overload 1 ..goes up to 2 in advanced versions and 3 in elite

    why not the pets who are suppose to be THE BEST PETS in the game .

    That's because what you said is not true. The only elite pet that has BO3 is Elite Romulan Drone ships, no other elite pets have it. :rolleyes:

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Carrier_Pets

    Besides, JHAS pets already have CRF3, does it make sense to give them BO3 as well??? I think not.
  • theuser2021theuser2021 Member Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I've always wondered this myself, why is it that advanced only has BOI and not BOII and the Elite doesn't have BOIII.

    I think about the Elite Vo'quv raptors (which are amazing) do the CRF 1 2 3 and THY 1 2 3 as they level, instead of anti-proton sweep they have battle cloaks. Their burst potential is really good when ordered to strike together.
    Tholian mesh weavers do FAW 1 2 3 and APB 1 2 3 as they level and their third ability is evasive maneuvers (instead of anti-proton sweep).
    Elite Fer'Jai Frigate: CRF III, THY III, and special ability aceton beam.
    Elite Romulan Drone ship: FAW III, BO III, EPttS III, and special ability sensor distortion II.

    elite Jem'hadar attack ship CRF III, BO II, special ability anti-proton sweep and ramming speed.

    It's very formulaic that elite hangar frigates get two abilities that level as they level in rarity and a special ability. The only hangar ships that break this model are the Romulan drone ships which have three abilities that level and the Jem'hadar attack ships that have the under performing beam overload.

    I always just assumed it was a mistake, because BO on a hangar ship never really seemed like that big a deal. Especially now that the Romulan Drone ships have it.
  • maliusnightmaliusnight Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Seems reasonable to me to add BOIII.
  • assimilatedktarassimilatedktar Member Posts: 1,708 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Sure thing. As soon as my Scorpion Fighters get HYT III.
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  • corvallecorvalle Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    First of all the JHAS is not worth what they are asking on the exchange, regardless of supply and demand. It is an old ship with old stats. Turn rate does not win over everything else.

    Second, the requirement to own both ships to obtain this pet is ridiculous. The Elite Drone ship are by far better pets. (parsers have proved this) To bad we can not have 2 of them because they have the best abilities in the game for pets.. :( Although i have done pet battles against JHAS pets with my Elite Meshweavers and the JHAS wooped them pretty good, but 2 vs 2 with my drone ships they didnt stand a chance lol

    The only reason people would spend that kind of EC on the JHAS is to get the ability to buy the pets in the first place, and cryptic wants to capitalize on this, even though the JHAS is just another escort now.

    The JHAS pops in space like popcorn, just like every other ship i encounter in pvp 1 v 1...sorry JHAS owners, battle cloaks win and 20% crit chance with 95% severity is devastating to a 48K hull buffed...thanks rommie's for the super awesome BOFF's with superior operative.

    Ill stick with my fleet dehlan and Scimitar :P
  • theuser2021theuser2021 Member Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    corvalle wrote: »
    First of all the JHAS is not worth what they are asking on the exchange, regardless of supply and demand. It is an old ship with old stats. Turn rate does not win over everything else.

    Second, the requirement to own both ships to obtain this pet is ridiculous. The Elite Drone ship are by far better pets. (parsers have proved this) To bad we can not have 2 of them because they have the best abilities in the game for pets.. :( Although i have done pet battles against JHAS pets with my Elite Meshweavers and the JHAS wooped them pretty good, but 2 vs 2 with my drone ships they didnt stand a chance lol

    The only reason people would spend that kind of EC on the JHAS is to get the ability to buy the pets in the first place, and cryptic wants to capitalize on this, even though the JHAS is just another escort now.

    The JHAS pops in space like popcorn, just like every other ship i encounter in pvp 1 v 1...sorry JHAS owners, battle cloaks win and 20% crit chance with 95% severity is devastating to a 48K hull buffed...thanks rommie's for the super awesome BOFF's with superior operative.

    Ill stick with my fleet dehlan and Scimitar :P

    Doesn't really have to do with anything we are talking about...
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,872 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I was going to agree that the JHAS pet should have BO III but then I was looking over all of the frigates (Though I admit not much knowledge of the elite drone.) Each Frigate has two abilities at MK III and a either MK I ability or just some unique bonus.

    The elite JHAS has two special abilities in the Antiproton sweep and the Kamikaze...maybe instead they should get rid of the Kamikaze since they're working on a Veteran system for fighters? Get rid of Kamikaze and give it BO III?
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  • theuser2021theuser2021 Member Posts: 170 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Ramming speed is really more of a flavor thing the attack ships do. They have to be below 50% which usually implies they are being hit. Usually they die before they even get to ram their target. Meaning it tends to be rare they actually ever use it. With that said, I would prefer they keep ramming speed over BO III, because when it happens, it looks so awesome (like from the show).
  • jarheardjarheard Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    iskandus wrote: »
    That's because what you said is not true. The only elite pet that has BO3 is Elite Romulan Drone ships, no other elite pets have it. :rolleyes:

    http://sto.gamepedia.com/Carrier_Pets

    Besides, JHAS pets already have CRF3, does it make sense to give them BO3 as well??? I think not.

    what i said is exactly true....

    every other pet with bo1 goes to 3..and every other pet is just that pet..

    but plz dont take it out of context ..reffer to my point bout all elite pets

    every elite pet with an mk i power goes up to mk iii with elite version

    and every carrier that will bring it pet to bare in a group filled only with pets will be deadly .

    even the slavers which are just EC farmers can in a group of 3 dmg anything out there beyond repair....

    so ur argument bout a fear of a teaming up bug pets led carriers is really not understandable .

    and if by numbers u still wish to judge...just yesterday i flew a scimatar with elite drones together with another one...overall ..4 elite drone ships..if thats not OP i dunno what is .
    u get that and still the dreadnought bug pet combo should be stronger .
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