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The state of the Game (re: Gameplay Bugs)
stulloyd
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Is it just me or is any1 else starting to wonder if PWE are really cut out to handle Star Trek online. I play games that are maintained by Sony Entertainment, EA & others online & they donot have half the problems PWE seem to have maintaining any of their games. New releases in a game are actually Bug free from luanch unlike PWE's new releases.
I think its about time PWE actuallyed asked some other company to step in & help them out like Sci-fy or somert else. its evident that PWE alone can no longer manage all the games that they have currently got on their own.
Also personally I have a feelling PWE don't know the STo Software. they brought game from Cryptic. Every bug they create with new stuff is a conflict with the old system. now if they had original designers of game on their team this maynot keep happening.
P.S. this thread aint to inflame any1 I am just getting sick of seeing bugs never get fixed. bugs created by new stuff launched in game & people quitting cause of all these constant unfixed bugs. This game is a fantastic game but it seems like it is run by a company that can no longer keep up with the demand of all the games they have got running. Thats why i suggest that maybe PWE actually might benefit from asking another company for help with some of their games.
I think its about time PWE actuallyed asked some other company to step in & help them out like Sci-fy or somert else. its evident that PWE alone can no longer manage all the games that they have currently got on their own.
Also personally I have a feelling PWE don't know the STo Software. they brought game from Cryptic. Every bug they create with new stuff is a conflict with the old system. now if they had original designers of game on their team this maynot keep happening.
P.S. this thread aint to inflame any1 I am just getting sick of seeing bugs never get fixed. bugs created by new stuff launched in game & people quitting cause of all these constant unfixed bugs. This game is a fantastic game but it seems like it is run by a company that can no longer keep up with the demand of all the games they have got running. Thats why i suggest that maybe PWE actually might benefit from asking another company for help with some of their games.
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Also, juts FYI, Cryptic is still doing the game. PWE is earning the profit and tell them to add gamblebox and things like that.
It will if we turn it into a party!
Oh bull ****. I mean you seem to think these kinds of threads will ever end at all...
You really haven't done your homework, have you?
Cryptic is still in charge, the same people that build this game from the ground up, are still the ones doing things now.
Bugs aren't being fixed as quickly as we'd like, this has only one true reason, yes, we all want bugs fixed, but the truth of the matter is, a massive bughunting patch, unless it comes in addition to a massive content patch, brings in no immediate profit.
They always prioritize things that they can profit from, over things they cannot, even if those latter things are very much needed.
This is and always will be the downside of F2P, because the moment a game walks down that road, every single bit of content needs to be profitable in some way, before this problem was negligible, they had their subscribers, fixing bugs was an important way to keep those subscribers.
Now the spendings of the post-F2P people, me included as I started playing on the very day this game went F2P, far, FAR outmatches LTS and subscriber income.
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And for the record, from what I've heard, if it weren't for PWE taking Cryptic off of Atari's hands, this game would still be in maintenance mode now.
100% agree with you OP.
EA/Bioware's SWToR is bug free? Really?
Read this (link 1)
And this (link2)
And this (link3)
And this (link4)
I could go on all day. My point? Unfortunately, MMOs are never bug free (Sucks, but comes with the genre since day one of Ultima Online and EverQuest.) I wish it wasn't the case.
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
Every game has Glitch's / Bugs even though you may not see them right away every game has bug's.
Some body get a big can of bug spray for this game.
The sad thing is here is that the test servers run a heck a lot better then Holodeck does which is sad.
Now I did play Star Wars Old Republic. I am a big Sci Fi buff so I like them sorts of games in general. I give them credit were due. Its a good game. but the size of it is ridiculous. 50 lvls & 3 chapters with countless missions. I played it for an entire month & only got to lvl 15. Now to play that game u got to play play play. It's F2P model aint the best either. it's designed to make u want to sub to get the best out of it & the people that play it seem to have their heads in their Bksides as they think its all about them. This was the subbers that was there from start. I quit Star Wars online. not cause it was too damending. Not cause it had bugs. but cause of the people that played it. by jov the game was riducled with Rascists, Snoobs & general Trolls & there was no way to sort them out. But subbers there are not like the Subbers here in STO. SWOR subbers will not help new players they ridicule them & belittle them. STo subbers are generally helpful people who try to help people learn the game. Massive difference in player base between these 2 games.
Now I could go on with the other 3-4 MMO's I have played. But they too have there bugs & breakages. but again they aren't half as bad as STO's. STO should be renamed Bug Trek Online. Its that ridiculed with them.
I read a few articles written by testers about LOR expansion for STO. Generale Consensus. 8 out of 10 for STO & LOR Expansion. But they all said the same thing & all agreed on 1 bad point to the game. The excessive bugs & breakages the game has. They all said that STO & LOR are good but there were that many bugs it was unbelieveable & that there shouldn't be this many in a MMO. They all said near end of their Articles We advise people to play this game. But please wait till all these bugs get sorted out 1st.
Now PWE & Cryptic have to read these reviews by Game sites. I mean they are failing in advertisement with this & reviews agreeing that STO is a brilliant game is all that PWE & Cryptic seem to be reading in any of these articles written.
So u say I don't research. I do. Also I recently done a Customer service course with my Job. Even through the internet the biggest advertisement a Company can have is still: "Word of Mouth." Whats the word of mouth for this STO in general, "Its a good game but its that Bug ridiculed. I would advise u don't play it until the bugs are sorted out." I know thats what I say about it to any of my friends online & offline. So they won't play it until I come to them & say oh STO, "Has now out most of its big bugs. So please come & play it now."
Unfortunately I think PWE are failing big time with the game. Thata my opinion.
Its like the infamous saying:
"Take a Leaf out of their book."
Shouldn't it be:
"Take a page out of their book."
Answer it can be either. Its just a damned saying. probably more people including myself use the, "Take a leaf out of their book." Even tho if u look at this metothorically. Well how can u take a Leaf out of a book. Yes Paper comes from Trees but not from Leafs. So how does that work. if u sat their & looked at almost 90% of sayings they are the same as these 2.
But anyway. This thread is about the state of the game not people moaning about Grammer & spelling.
I think you havent been paying attention good lad,
Most of the people working at cryptic now arent the same as 3 years ago, and they certainly didn't 'build up this game from the ground up'.
Pretty sure they bought a game engine and build the game based on that.
Half of them don't even know tons of the code that has been written by old devs, hence why the game is in the state it is in now.
And now my personal opinion, I think it is pretty damn sad on how long it takes to squish bugs in this game. My bet is they only have one man on the job TRIBBLE around. It has been pretty much 2 months since LoR and we still havent seen a huge bug fix patch since.
From all the bugs introduced since LoR (And im not even talking about the existing one before LoR) you would expect two pages of bugfixes which would count for perhaps 5-10% of the total bugs in this game.
Where is it? Oh wait nvm, theyve been too busy adding more grind sh*t to this game, a new rep system and tweaking the Risa event.