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thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
Will Klingon never be able to visit Risa after this event? And try out the floater?

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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    nope, unless they have marauder up they won't be able to come back to federation space, or Risa.
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  • elandarkskyelandarksky Member Posts: 1,013 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    pretty sure the gliders are unusuable after the summer event, even on regular risa (like the snow guns of 2012)
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  • captainrevo1captainrevo1 Member Posts: 3,948 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I heard (second hand) that the resort map stays so you can still fly around.

    they may keep it for people who get to be a maurader or could just use a contact in the first city to transwarp you there.
  • aveimperatoraveimperator Member Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    No. And for good reason: We're at WAR. This entire event is stupid anyway. It's just another obnoxious and annoying grind for useless TRIBBLE designed to try to entice us to buy Zen to buy keys to open boxes to get Lobi to grind the event poorly disguised as a beach party where we invite our ENEMIES into our sovereign territory to frolic in the sand with us.

    Waste of @*#%ing time and resources and a stupid concept to begin with. Nuke the Klingons, don't invite them over for volleyball and daquris. And while we're at it, nuke the Feds who think this beach party is the greatest thing EVAR and want to run around in bikinis like the millions of Orion TRIBBLE populating this game. And the Romulans who think the New Republic is a hippie commune. They're so out of touch with reality, they have no place in it. Y'know what, just nuke everyone. TRIBBLE this, I'm taking over the Borg collective and assimilating EVERYONE. No moar beach parties! EVER!
  • bumblebushbumblebush Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited July 2013
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  • tc10btc10b Member Posts: 1,549 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Press J and look at the special event bar. Click the transwarp button. Hey presto!
  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    tc10b wrote: »
    Press J and look at the special event bar. Click the transwarp button. Hey presto!

    They're talking about after the event.

    My Orion LG has T4 Marauding... and feels quite at home on Risa.

    But there is a good point about KDF not being able to get there after the event is over. I don't see a good solution for that, so I guess KDF gets the short end on that one.

    DOFF up Marauding to T3 in Regulus and Pi Canis and fight your way in like a true warrior. ;)
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  • igloodudeigloodude Member Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    No. And for good reason: We're at WAR. This entire event is stupid anyway. It's just another obnoxious and annoying grind for useless TRIBBLE designed to try to entice us to buy Zen to buy keys to open boxes to get Lobi to grind the event poorly disguised as a beach party where we invite our ENEMIES into our sovereign territory to frolic in the sand with us.

    Waste of @*#%ing time and resources and a stupid concept to begin with. Nuke the Klingons, don't invite them over for volleyball and daquris. And while we're at it, nuke the Feds who think this beach party is the greatest thing EVAR and want to run around in bikinis like the millions of Orion TRIBBLE populating this game. And the Romulans who think the New Republic is a hippie commune. They're so out of touch with reality, they have no place in it. Y'know what, just nuke everyone. TRIBBLE this, I'm taking over the Borg collective and assimilating EVERYONE. No moar beach parties! EVER!

    Now my coworkers are wondering why I started laughing for no apparent reason.


    That aside, I'm pretty sure I saw some Borg on the Risa docks... :eek:
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  • ursusmorologusursusmorologus Member Posts: 5,328 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    they may keep it for people who get to be a maurader or could just use a contact in the first city to transwarp you there.
    seems like the best solution, talk to an NPC and board a shuttle, beaming out takes you back, something like that
  • thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    No. And for good reason: We're at WAR. This entire event is stupid anyway. It's just another obnoxious and annoying grind for useless TRIBBLE designed to try to entice us to buy Zen to buy keys to open boxes to get Lobi to grind the event poorly disguised as a beach party where we invite our ENEMIES into our sovereign territory to frolic in the sand with us.

    Waste of @*#%ing time and resources and a stupid concept to begin with. Nuke the Klingons, don't invite them over for volleyball and daquris. And while we're at it, nuke the Feds who think this beach party is the greatest thing EVAR and want to run around in bikinis like the millions of Orion TRIBBLE populating this game. And the Romulans who think the New Republic is a hippie commune. They're so out of touch with reality, they have no place in it. Y'know what, just nuke everyone. TRIBBLE this, I'm taking over the Borg collective and assimilating EVERYONE. No moar beach parties! EVER!


    They should move the boarders so Klingons also have access .. (its a war so why not).. or create another version like Risa for klingons only.
  • thestargazethestargaze Member Posts: 1,020 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I just want to be able to use my jets .. sorry I mean 'floaters' .. after the event. Even for Klingons. And risa is beautiful.
  • aveimperatoraveimperator Member Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    They should move the boarders so Klingons also have access .. (its a war so why not).. or create another version like Risa for klingons only.

    Because moving the borders to give Klingons access would mean giving an entire 2.5 sectors to the KDF. Frankly, much as the KDF would LOVE to think so, the Klingon Empire isn't that powerful anymore and they would win initial engagements against the Federation and Romulans due to savagery and sneak attacks, but that would lose momentum as the shock wore off and the Feds/Roms actually took to a genuine war footing. The Klingon Empire a husk of it's former glory, still clinging to the days when they were actually an honorable and noble people. Nowadays, they're thugs and brawlers who hide their cowardice and thuggish nature behind a word they don't really understand. (See the DS9 episode where the Klingons are attacking a hospital because they believe murdering the sick and injured in their beds is giving them an "honorable death.") They're nothing but blood-crazed killers. Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!

    Also, can you imagine what a Klingon version of Risa would look like? A concentration camp comes to mind. Just look at Worf's recreational activities and the "Klingon bachelor party" he drags Sisko, Odo, O'Brian, and Bashir through. A Klingon Risa would be a horrible, horrible place... and I'm pretty sure it's called Qo'Nos.
  • aurelias1aurelias1 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    No. And for good reason: We're at WAR. This entire event is stupid anyway. It's just another obnoxious and annoying grind for useless TRIBBLE designed to try to entice us to buy Zen to buy keys to open boxes to get Lobi to grind the event poorly disguised as a beach party where we invite our ENEMIES into our sovereign territory to frolic in the sand with us.

    The 'War' itself is stupid, and serves no purpose other than a flimsy justification for PVP. You get over the whole "We're at war thing" after an hour or so, and the rest of the content is the Empire and the Federation fighting a common enemy.

    Cryptic would do better to stop clinging to the non-existent war and just reinstate the Fed/Klingon Alliance, make PVP 'wargames'.
  • aveimperatoraveimperator Member Posts: 319 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Are you unaware, then, that the Klingon ENDGAME dailies involve ambushing Starfleet ships, attacking civilian supply convoys, assaulting a Federation outpost, and stealing medical supplies from a Starfleet base?
  • hrisvalarhrisvalar Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    bluegeek wrote: »
    My Orion LG has T4 Marauding... and feels quite at home on Risa.

    But there is a good point about KDF not being able to get there after the event is over. I don't see a good solution for that, so I guess KDF gets the short end on that one.

    I'd say suck it up, but then we get the "Waah, that's easy for a Fed to say!" schtick again. (General forum response.) See, this is why we can't have nice things. Cause when one group gets something new on this game, (all) the other group(s) immediately demand to get the exact same damned thing (unique mission rewards, carriers/flagships, consoles, Rep sets, etc, etc) until finally there's no difference left at all. (Trade you MVAM for Battlecloaks.) Social zones are hardly going to be the core of the problem, but I see it's shaping up to be part of it anyway.

    So how about then we just move the winter event to Rura Penthe, or Boretlh, and whatever's done with that map will remain accessible to the KDF year-round? That way, both sides are left out part of the year, it evens out a little, and we don't go full on United Empire of Planets. (Vote qeylIS 2413! - You can always tell the Klingon ballots. They don't use the pencil, and they don't color within the circle.)

    I can see Q deciding Rura Penthe could use a bit more cheer and festivities, and issuing one of his auto-RSVPing invitations to all his Federation friends to help him do it. And you know it's a "Mine are bigger!" ridges joke waiting to be made.
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  • tc10btc10b Member Posts: 1,549 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    bluegeek wrote: »
    DOFF up Marauding to T3 in Regulus and Pi Canis and fight your way in like a true warrior. ;)

    I see,

    Even if you did that though, would you be able to land at the event? I suspect that unless they changed something you wouldn't.

    To be honest I don't see the big deal about the event going away until next year. After all the Winter Wonderland isn't available 24/7 either and that makes it more special when it does roll around.
    I think that if it had been on Q's Magical Summer Sequestration it wouldn't have been an issue.
  • zdfx19zdfx19 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Will Klingon never be able to visit Risa after this event? And try out the floater?

    :/

    IDK, I always wondered if I could get lessons from that Klingon martial arts mater training students on top of that high rock arch I flew up too. I kind of hope he stays on Risa after the event.
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa....We are at WAR?
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  • tc10btc10b Member Posts: 1,549 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa Whoa....We are at WAR?
    Yeah, did you not get the memo? It went Cold very quickly after the KDF wiped out our supply lines and destroyed whole starbases.
  • millacanomillacano Member Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    I may not be a buff with st lore but.

    ISnt risa in the neutral zone , its not affiliated with being fed or kdf its a neutral planet away from the war.

    Not everyone is the entire universe is at war, most pay no heed to it .

    Like we have wars on our small earth you still got ibiza and such which is just there to drink and have fun and no way affected by whatever bad juujuu is going else where .

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  • notapwefannotapwefan Member Posts: 1,138 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    igloodude wrote: »
    Now my coworkers are wondering why I started laughing for no apparent reason.


    That aside, I'm pretty sure I saw some Borg on the Risa docks... :eek:

    someone is a borg agent obviously.
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  • hrisvalarhrisvalar Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    millacano wrote: »
    ISnt risa in the neutral zone , its not affiliated with being fed or kdf its a neutral planet away from the war.

    It's not. Though it's never been outright said on screen that Risa is a Federation world, there are some clues.
    1. For one, it's a popular vacation spot for Starfleet personnel.
    2. Secondly, aside from Worf, we've never seen a Klingon there.
    3. Thirdly, a Federation based movement (the New Essentialists) chose to demonstrate the Federation's inability to defend itself, which really only makes sense to do on a Federation world. (I wish they'd tried that on Andoria though.)
    4. And last, the most direct evidence is that DS9 established that Risa's weather control grid is maintained by Starfleet engineers (in "Honor among thieves").

    So...

    Not so neutral. Risa sits in Federation space. Even if it's not a full member, or not a member at all, the systems surrounding it are, and the space surrounding it is patrolled by Starfleet. While I'm sure the Risians would welcome any Klingon who wants to visit, it seems unlikely they would have the authority to grant any Klingon who asks safe passage through that space.

    And I really doubt Starfleet Command will go, "Oh, alright!" and build Risa it's own transwarp gate, letting Klingons bypass Federation territory altogether and put a fleet in striking distance of the core worlds with no warning at all.

    Then again, that's kind of what's going on right now.
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  • tancrediivtancrediiv Member Posts: 728 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    During the Cold War people from all countries went to Hawaii, the Virgin Islands, Cuba, Bahamas, Grand Caman, and other resort destinations for fun and sun. No different here.

    Every nation has its Hawaii.

    This idiotic view that Klingons would find a vacation spot in some sort of gulag hell hole torturing epohhs and frying up fresh Andorian is just that, idiotic. Born of a fantasy of good vs evil, we good guy you bad guy nonsense.

    The Federation thinks its the good guy. Guess what? So do the Klingons. Klingons farm, have families, raise children, recreate, eat, sleep and do scientific research. They are an interstellar race. They achieved warp status before humans.

    As an event, Risa is a nice bit of paradise. The environment artists did great. To bad the event is lame.

    1. Risa looks like an invasion zone, uniforms EVERYWHERE, just no one is shooting.
    2. Useless accolades.
    3. Horrible drop rate on eggs, the only worthwhile minigame grind there.
    4. Overpriced costume pieces that clip, can't be used with much, and no swimwear
    5. Nothing KDF like to do and no reason to be there

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  • futurepastnowfuturepastnow Member Posts: 3,660 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    tc10b wrote: »
    I see,

    Even if you did that though, would you be able to land at the event? I suspect that unless they changed something you wouldn't.

    To be honest I don't see the big deal about the event going away until next year. After all the Winter Wonderland isn't available 24/7 either and that makes it more special when it does roll around.
    I think that if it had been on Q's Magical Summer Sequestration it wouldn't have been an issue.

    Sure, anyone with T3 Marauding (or Raiding Party) can fly over to Risa and beam down. The "event" will be ending in August, but the new Risa map should be sticking around.
  • mosquito214mosquito214 Member Posts: 138 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    tancrediiv wrote: »

    2. Useless accolades.
    3. Horrible drop rate on eggs, the only worthwhile minigame grind there.
    5. Nothing KDF like to do and no reason to be there

    To be fair, pretty much any accolade is "useless". At least these were a little more interesting to find than the Winter ones. And the eggs are just... random. I can go for a bunch of events without one dropping, and then get two in a row. Just random luck, my main has 20 eggs waiting for hatching. Plus they do sell eggs for 150 favors, and again being fair, you can get about 50 favors per horga'hn hunt now.

    And yes, it's actually pretty annoying that they don't even have the "because Q" excuse for the Klingons this time.
  • doffingcomradedoffingcomrade Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2013
    tancrediiv wrote: »
    This idiotic view that Klingons would find a vacation spot in some sort of gulag hell hole torturing epohhs and frying up fresh Andorian is just that, idiotic. Born of a fantasy of good vs evil, we good guy you bad guy nonsense.
    Well, certainly not that. But Klingon vacations clearly involve more physically violent pursuits, like, say, "Targ Hunting". Worf wasn't exactly enthused with Risa either.
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