test content
Logo
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc
jem'hadar space set mk XII
matlin2
Member Posts: 12 Arc User
hi, could you tell me how do you get the MK XII jem'hadar space set?
Thanks
Thanks
Post edited by matlin2 on
0
Comments
Get the Mk XI set, Acquire 200 Lobi, Use the Lobi Crystal to open the store (it won't be consumed) Buy the Mk XII set. You'll need to have the Mk XI set in your inventory not equipped on a ship.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
And would it be 200 for the whole Mk XII set, or 200 lobi for each piece of gear?
But you could just do the three missions again and get another Mk XI set.
If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
200 lobi nets you the entire Jem hardar mk XII set. not 200 lobi each
Then toss the JH-Set into the trashbin and get something better (which is not very hard).
In any case , the Mk XII version of the Jem set has some utility.
I use the 3 pc. mk XII Jem set on my JHDC. it's pretty beastly.
Especially so if you can grab a plasmonic leech console and an Obelisk warp core.
Unfortunately, not possible to put Gravity Well on that ship to take advantage of the Graviton bump of the deflector, but a very nice ship indeed.
My PvE/PvP hybrid skill tree
To be fair, I decided how to see how much worse it was than 2pc nukara with 2pc undine, and the answer was "nowt in the grand scheme of things", about 40 dpv on a DHC (2040-odd vs 2000, fleet polar on vs fleet disruptor).
However, (if you have them/can afford them) you might as well use polarized disruptors, 2pc nukara & undine, and have 2 procs for the same dpv.
Sticking the jem deflector on with that does do nice things with the polaron proc and leech, as well as grav wells.
Sometimes synergy takes precedent over survivability. For example the JHDC, The JHAC, the Galor, should all use the JH space set, even if it's squishy (ain't that the truth!) because there is a built-in bonus just for those ships. When using the JH those ships should rely on polaron damage types. Yes, you can customize any way you like and nobody will stop you, but sometimes the synergy makes things even better and sometimes you run a loadout because of the ship. You really must use phasers on the Gal-X and you really must use disruptors on the Borty Command (assuming use of the autocannon console).
There is still plenty of other customization to be had, but certain constraints narrow down your selection. At times, of course. Not always.
Those are my thoughts on the matter, at least. Take 'em or leave 'em.
Instead you can run REAL consoles, REAL polarons, and do far more damage than a "protonic build" ever could hope.
They're a gimmick. They're recycle fodder. NEVER use protonic consoles, and avoid protonic polarons if at all you can load any other type of polaron instead.
That's not just my opinion. That's the math added up.
Dyson Science Destroyers.
The idea is to boost the Proton damage attacks found via the DSD consoles as well as from a set such as the Dyson Space Set with its Proton Barrage. Boosted right, they're powerful abilities. The Dyson TAC Consoles also boosts them, as well as the Proton proc damage found on Protonic Polarons.
Admittedly, this works far better on a Rom toon using the DSD since they have insane means of increasing crits, which they'd need on such a specific build.
Proton Builds exist, they can be effective, but like many things, there are tradeoffs.
So as to "effective" -- nah.. .Make it less "not so effective" but in comparison to a solid build on a dedicated ship (one that doesn't compromise to the point of failure, like the DSD)? Nah.
I stand by my statement. Protonic builds just shouldn't happen. Friends don't let friends build protonic. Take the consoles. Take a stand.
That said, I agree about the protonic polarons, they are garbage.
It is what it is. It's geared for a more Science approach. A ship and console / equipment set built on special abilities. With the Solanae console set bonus, those abilities are available more often (1 minute CD reduction). These gimmick abilities are available much more than the usual and if specced for Proton and Aux Power, do quite a bit of damage. It synergizes extremely well with the Dyson Space Set and its Proton Barrage, which itself only has a 1.5 minute CD. That's good availability for strong gimmicks that bypass shields by 50% or skip it entirely (Proton Barrage). And enhancing Proton makes all of it better.
The Dyson BOFF setup still helps favor it. More favorable TAC station for Attack Patterns and such (APO will enhance those Proton attacks that I just mentioned).
A Proton-based build is effective, depending on how you build it.
And if you know what you're doing.
Just like any build.
I mean, not only is photonic-proc easily outclassed by CrtD-Mod, I would even say, a dmg-Mod is more powerful, they went and made Sciconsoles for it, but, who would have guessed, with so low chances, you can put them in the garbage can. Not even to mention lower values compared to normal consoles (stopping at 20 skillincrease instead of 30+). Same problem with tactical Consoles, especially when introducing Fleet ones at the same time. So much potential overshadowed by far better stuff.
I built the grind-DSD to be a protonic build for my Sci -well knowing it would most likely be laughable compared to the alternatives-, flew 2 STFs, had a very long lasting good laugh about the numbers, and went back to my dear dps-vesta-approach.
Its not that photonic builds are bad -you can do nicely with them-, but they are easily outdpsed (or outrun to use a more neutral meaning) by conventional means. And that is really sad, as another initial well meaned concept went straight in the garbage can.
Yeah, what I meant was you might as well use polarized disruptors with biomolecular incubation (2pc undine, I use the turn console and turret) and weapon stabilisers (2pc nukara, i use shield and engines) and have near enough the same dpv, the polaron proc AND the disruptor proc at the same time rather than if you went with polaron weaponry and the jem 2pc bonus, everything else being equal. You can even keep the jem deflector for the flow caps bonus (among other goodies on it).
However, uti possidetis really, innit.
why the obelisk core?
Agreed - iif yorue doing a Polaron build, the 2 pc is great - however the deflector is the weak spot for many builds. Shield/Engine plus deflector of choice is a great combo.
The biggest failing is their lack of ways to get buffed. You have to lose a [CritD] mod of the chance of a chance of a proc, yet there are only crappy Voth Tac consoles that only buff them +14% for a VR for the loss of 8-12% of your chosen energy type. Oh and you get a paltry 2.5% bonus acc. Whoopty do.
The Voth Tac consoles should offer (at VR):
+20% Proton Damage - Minimum!
+3.3-5% ACC buff
To make them viable. That said, the 2 current proton weapons SHOULD be buffed by the generic beam and cannon consoles. That would make them a lot more viable in-general.
Don't you think such a console might be better suited to a sci console slot? Thus not disrupting weapons buffing consoles?
Or better yet, tie protonic boost to particle gen skills, so that sci consoles and sci deflectors boost it naturally.
I think that might be the better option. Then just don't make any protonic weapons wide-spread. The protonic polarons don't count since that proc is so pathetic, and the main weapon type is polaron. In that case only the proc would be buffed by part gens.
Then maybe take those protonic tactical consoles and just re-write them all to say "+part gens" instead of "+protonic" so you can get a minor part gen boost from your tacticals. Sci pilots would eat that up!
I know I would!
We already have combo consoles. We have sci embassy consoles that deal plasma damage and modify threat, which are tactical in nature. Why not have a tactical with a little sci added? I'm not talking break the bank, but a nice modest bonus on top of whatever sci consoles you already run.