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zepharynthe
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When does Cryptic intend to offer some Vice Admiral rank Romulan/Reman science vessels in the c-store for Romulan/Reman science captains?
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Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories. Thomas Jefferson (et al)
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The combined ship has a universal lt. com slot.
Other rom ships have lt. com universal as well.
But back to Romulans. They are more likely to use cloaking, tractor beams, and crew killing/disabling skills. They even have a ship that will fire torpedoes from cloak, and recloak rather quickly. So while there are few Romulan specific ships now, that may change. I am curious if we will see a return to the TOS era canon of Romulans trading tech to the Klingons for ships. That was how they explained why both Klingons and Romulans had the same D7 cruisers, and seemed to use rather simular weapons. Romuland needed ships, but lacked the means to build more ships quickly. Granted the Klingons got high tech weapons/cloaking, and the Romulans got obsolete decomissioned ships. This was part of the basis for why Romulans later turned on the Klingons in attacks like Khitomer.
If you have bought any Klingon ships in the past for Zen check to see if your Romulan Captain can use them. I was able to access a few, but only ended up keeping the consoles for special skills.
Umm, no. lol
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Ha%27nom_Guardian_Warbird
http://sto.gamepedia.com/Fleet_Ha%27nom_Guardian_Warbird
That was the original idea. They were going to have 2 versions of the Haakona, once sci and one eng, but they scraped it and only made the eng version.
Like I said, they have really screwed the science officers. Here, this is a race that is science oriented. Oh wait, we aren't going to give you any lvl 50 ships except through T5 fleets.
Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories. Thomas Jefferson (et al)
The first ship is NOT a cstore lvl 50 (vice admiral) level ship. It's the free level 40 romulan science ship.
The second is a level 50 ship, but it isn't a cstore ship, it's a fleet ship. So yes you have to purchase fleet modules for it, but you also have to be in a fleet with a T5 shipyard to purchase it. Not exactly anything available to any romulan/reman level 50 science captain directly from the cstore.
Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories. Thomas Jefferson (et al)
How did they TRIBBLE science officers?
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Have you bothered to read the posts beore you wrote this?:eek:
Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories. Thomas Jefferson (et al)
Give me a decent SCIENCE ship. Commander level science BOFF, more science consoles than tactical. PLEASE.
Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories. Thomas Jefferson (et al)
The Ha'nom is the equivalent of a C-Store ship, just without a fancy console and won't cost you any additional money if you're a lifer or subscriber. What more would you want from a C-Store science ship?
Just for fun:
this can be said about all three classes of ships so why did Cryptic ever produce VA ships and sell them?;)
Or in case of the Romulans: why were the Ha'feh and Ha'apax not enough for all Romulan players?
Because people wanted to play the TNG Hero ships at Endgame, when they were all made as Tier 4 ships. So we have the retrofits. I don't get it myself, but, eh.
Fleet Ha'feh is enough for my Romulan Tac, to be honest.
RA and VA ships are all tier 5...VA ships have their own unique console but beyond that they're pretty much identical.
Not every ship needs its own special console and not everyone can/wants to spend zen on ships. RR has a option For Escort, Cruiser, and Science vessel at 40...so things are fine the way they are.
You just made the perfect point why they should never add any new ships to the game ever again.:)
Because we want Cryptic to be successful, and this game to live for a long time and have even more options.
Anyways, what seems to be the issue is that the OP wants a different type of science vessel. I, for one, can't figure out what his dislike/issue with the Ha'nom is; beyond not having access to a T5 base to give him a fleet version. The Ha'nom reminds me of the Luna, my favorite free science vessel in the game; but with Romulan-ish trade-offs.
I'm having a blast with mine as well.
It's as tough as they come and gives me the freedom to slot all the science abilities I'll ever want or need.:)
But I know a buddy of mine despised it so much he went for an adapted battlecruiser instead. The funny part is that we both started playing this game during headstart and with my first science char I went with the DSSV while he chose the RSV.
So it's really strange that now I'm flying a ship with a RSV-layout while he was so unhappy with a ship that has it...
So it seems that it's not the BO layout alone that makes the ship...I can't explain this phenomenon...I can only report on it.;)
My own personal beef with this is: we already have lots of tac ships, at least a decent minimum of engineering ships...and only one science vessel?
Also, it feels like both Cryptic as well as parts of the fanbase think of "science" as being synonymous with "exploration" while a look at the abilities and a dedicated support ship like the Varanus show it's not just that.
It's electronic warfare as well as gathering intelligence on your enemies.
And that's something even "Enterprise" got right when they presented us with the Raptor scout in that show...and by god did that show have some serious missteps.
So how about it? The Romulans...masters of espionage and intelligence and keeping tabs on their adversaries...should have some decent intelligence gathering and/or electronic intelligence/warfare ships at their disposal.
Well, we have the Ha'nom and the Mirror Ha'nom, which gives the DSSV layout with an RSV feel. That said, I think part of the problem is that Geko is having a bit of trouble thinking up new and interesting consoles for us to use without making them too P2Wish.
Let's just say that's his job and if he's not doing it...anyway it's not like a lof of ideas haven't been posted on the sbject of science/scout ships over the years.
Of course several of those were posted as ideas from the KDF crowd simply because there was no Romulan faction at the time.
This stuff is something I posted in 2011 (which is why I can still find it after 2 years)
Of course this means it predates Fleet retros and a lot of other stuff like the antiproton scan the Dominion ships now have. Also back then VA ships only had 8 consoles and integrated special abilities.
However for example a similar gravity-based sensor would also work (gravity...artificial singularity *wink*) same is true for the stealth coating...somthing right up the Romulan alley.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=3411498&postcount=117
For some strange reason it appears our ideas are not worth looking into by the DEVs.
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I didn't quite mean it how I said it...but RR is fine right now...they've gotten a 3 pack of their flagship, vet ship, and soon the time ships...its time the KDF gets something...
the KDF have enough ships O_o... from what I seen romulans need more ships O_o same with feds ... So they balancing ships atm releasing ships for both factions
And no, "sci captain = sci vessel!" and "only science captains can use gravity well 3" are not accurate explanations.
Shoulda been the Science/Scout vessell but higher powers saw fit to give one of the few canon ships left to Vets. Not saying they dont deserve it more opposite. It looks like TRIBBLE I feel sorry that its a 'reward' for you guys. Shoulda been t4.
The Feds have roughly as many ships as the other two factions put together...why do they need more ships?
To get the most out of Sensor Scan you need lots of AUX and lots of points in Starship Sensors...to get both you need enough Science Console slots and a decent bonus to AUX. Both can only be provided by a Science vessel.
You don't need lots of science console slots and a decent bonus to aux to get both, but it does help. Given that sensor scan has a long cooldown you could get by with aux batteries and/or switching to an aux-heavy power preset before using it (edit- obviously for the DR debuff; for the stealth debuff you can spec into Starship Sensors and it is not dependent on what vessel you fly). Obviously a dedicated level 50 science vessel warbird with 4 science console slots would be ideal, and its absence is conspicuous, but it is possible to make a science character work on other types of ships and other warbirds. Many of the actual captain's abilities for science characters don't really depend on the type of vessel you pilot AFAIK. (I don't know what boosts Photonic Fleet tbh)