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Training NPCs to sit

Good morning Foundry folks! :D

I have a question about getting contacts to sit in a chair and have it look decent. I've been trying to get an npc to sit on a barstool, but no matter how I offset the npc from the stool it doesn't work right. She's either too high and floats in mid-air above the chair, or sits on the ground with her legs sticking through the floor. With the high load times lately [:(] it is getting annoying trying to get this npc to sit properly!

So, my question is this: Is there a combination of Foundry assets + contact animations that works to get an npc to sit and not look silly, or is this a lost cause?

Thanks in advance for any insights into this problem.
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Command Officers of the USS Wyvern (from left to right):
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  • commandermiccommandermic Member Posts: 124 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    i know this problem, it's happening to some of the chairs. just try any other chairs, for some there is this problem, for others not.
  • thegreendragoon1thegreendragoon1 Member Posts: 1,872 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Can you post a screenshot from preview? A little hard to judge with out seeing the scene.
  • castsbugccastsbugc Member Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    its not an easy thing at all, because of a thing called collision.

    The problem is, the object doesnt have a tightly defined area that is its outer boundary, in fact this boundary is pretty much larger than the object in question. Couple that with an unknown value of what the boundary of a sitting npc is, and you get npc that float inches above a seat.

    The only way to fix it really is to get the art people to fix it, if its possible
  • painkillerjaynepainkillerjayne Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Thank you all for your replies. :)

    I kind of figured it had something to do with the collision box being an actual "box" that surrounded the entire chair. I just wasn't sure if they'd made some of the chairs with tighter tolerances or not.

    @greendragon: Sorry, I'd already changed the whole thing to a standing npc and didn't want to go through the hassle of switching it back, so...no snappies for you! :P

    Kind of makes me :( that they were sloppy on the collision boxes for chairs. Shortening the box so it aligns with the seating surface should have been done with all the chairs, imho, and then allow the author to worry about clipping.

    Oh well...I guess I'll just have a lot of sore npc feet to rub later since they cannot sit! :eek:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Command Officers of the USS Wyvern (from left to right):
    Aurellia Eshkah (Tactical); Indigo Shae (Engineering); Nysiay Chysiayki (VA, Ship Captain)
    Jeclia Sek (Science); Vally Mantivour (Security)
  • thegreendragoon1thegreendragoon1 Member Posts: 1,872 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Just for fun, (because I love a challenge) what was the asset name of the chair you were trying to use?
  • painkillerjaynepainkillerjayne Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I'm actually at work right now, so I don't have access to the exact name...

    ...but if I remember correctly it was something like "barstool 001". I think it was the only solo barstool available (but I could be wrong).

    As far as the sitting animation used...I don't have a clue. I do remember that the npc would lean forward, place their hands on their thighs, and then lean back and place their hands behind themselves as if leaning back on the chair.

    When I get home I will fire up the Foundry and get you the actual names. ;)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Command Officers of the USS Wyvern (from left to right):
    Aurellia Eshkah (Tactical); Indigo Shae (Engineering); Nysiay Chysiayki (VA, Ship Captain)
    Jeclia Sek (Science); Vally Mantivour (Security)
  • thegreendragoon1thegreendragoon1 Member Posts: 1,872 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I know the animation you describe and I should be able find the barstool. Yeah, that animation can be tricky, but I know a few tricks of my own. I'll let you know if I figure out anything useful.
  • painkillerjaynepainkillerjayne Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You rule thegreendragoon1 :cool:

    (lol...I just realized it's "dragoon"...not "dragon")

    My off-duty officers will owe you a muffin if you figure this out ;)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    Command Officers of the USS Wyvern (from left to right):
    Aurellia Eshkah (Tactical); Indigo Shae (Engineering); Nysiay Chysiayki (VA, Ship Captain)
    Jeclia Sek (Science); Vally Mantivour (Security)
  • drogyn1701drogyn1701 Member Posts: 3,606 Media Corps
    edited June 2013
    Yeah he's more this

    and less this

    :D
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