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Risa Jetpacks - Risa-only?

stardestroyer001stardestroyer001 Member Posts: 2,615 Arc User
edited June 2013 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
I'm not sure if this was explicitly mentioned somewhere, but are the Risa Jetpacks going to be usable only on Risa, and not in any ground map?
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  • grylakgrylak Member Posts: 1,594 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    One of the devs confirmed in the blog 26 about the event, that the jet packs can only be used in the new Risa map only.



    However, they are thinking of leaving the map in once the summer event is over.
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  • vorga113vorga113 Member Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Not jet-packs, "floaters"
    I still think that using a term that's linked with dead bodies in rivers and unpleasent things left behind in toilets was a really dumb idea
  • wildthyme467989wildthyme467989 Member Posts: 1,286 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    grylak wrote: »
    One of the devs confirmed in the blog 26 about the event, that the jet packs can only be used in the new Risa map only.



    However, they are thinking of leaving the map in once the summer event is over.

    I heard from Brandon on Twitter that the Jet-Packs themselves will only be in the Summer Event, unless there's been a change of plans in the meantime
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited June 2013
    "Floaters" is actually canon. We were going to be adding Jetpacks anyway, but when we watched "Let He Who Is Without Sin. . . " at one of the Friday watch & eats, we were surprised when Arandis or Dax or someone talks about renting some "Floaters."

    Nothing we could do about it at that point, they were now Floaters.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Floater of course is a pork pie in mushy peas


    but How many guys in full body armour and ev suits are we going to see jet packing about
    playing "boba fett"
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  • thegreendragoon1thegreendragoon1 Member Posts: 1,872 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Floater of course is a pork pie in mushy peas


    but How many guys in full body armour and ev suits are we going to see jet packing about
    playing "boba fett"

    If Fett is smart enough to vacation on Risa, I haven't given him enough credit. :P
  • deaftravis05deaftravis05 Member Posts: 4,885 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Floater of course is a pork pie in mushy peas


    but How many guys in full body armour and ev suits are we going to see jet packing about
    playing "boba fett"

    ... ... .... um... either you're being sarcastic or you really don't understand the mind of us nerds
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I once attended a party in Star wars galaxys where there were over 40 boba fetts

    I felt quite outnumbered
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
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    edited June 2013
    tacofangs wrote: »
    "Floaters" is actually canon. We were going to be adding Jetpacks anyway, but when we watched "Let He Who Is Without Sin. . . " at one of the Friday watch & eats, we were surprised when Arandis or Dax or someone talks about renting some "Floaters."

    Nothing we could do about it at that point, they were now Floaters.

    Not only should you leave the map in...

    I think you guys should do a Captain Proton Adventure Zone and a CP themed outfit that comes with a CP jetpack.

    Maybe get a Holodeck themed FE-style thing. Basically, each of the 5 parts could be mini-adventure zones with potential for a basic costume unlock (Buster, Dr. Watson, etc maybe on up to basic Homes, basic Dixon Hill, etc) as part of a Holodeck rep system. You'd have C-Store packs that bundle an item in (photonic tommygun with Dixon Hill deluxe costume, jetpack with Captain Proton deluxe costume, magnifying glass that acts similar to Detective Mode in the Arkham games). And then maybe an FE series that winds through the adventure zones.

    And to keep it grounded in Trek, maybe the other two eras could be more familiar to Trek, like a TOS themed program and, say, a program which casts you as a Starfleet Officer in a pre-TNG setting.
  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    stoleviathan99 wrote: »
    Not only should you leave the map in...

    I think you guys should do a Captain Proton Adventure Zone and a CP themed outfit that comes with a CP jetpack.

    Maybe get a Holodeck themed FE-style thing. Basically, each of the 5 parts could be mini-adventure zones with potential for a basic costume unlock (Buster, Dr. Watson, etc maybe on up to basic Homes, basic Dixon Hill, etc) as part of a Holodeck rep system. You'd have C-Store packs that bundle an item in (photonic tommygun with Dixon Hill deluxe costume, jetpack with Captain Proton deluxe costume, magnifying glass that acts similar to Detective Mode in the Arkham games). And then maybe an FE series that winds through the adventure zones.

    And to keep it grounded in Trek, maybe the other two eras could be more familiar to Trek, like a TOS themed program and, say, a program which casts you as a Starfleet Officer in a pre-TNG setting.

    But don't forget to code the video to switch to Black & White! ;)
  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    My backpack's got jets
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    Well I bounty hunt for Jabba Hutt
    To finance my 'Vette

    wicky wicky woo

    Well I chill in deep space
    A mask is over my face
    Well I deliver the prize
    But I still narrow my eyes'Cause my time
    I don't like to waste.

    Get down

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    Wrapped inside an enigma
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    Find your homing signal

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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99
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    edited June 2013
    pyryck wrote: »
    But don't forget to code the video to switch to Black & White! ;)

    Well, I know there's no switch for that aside from as a clientside thing not everyone would see but I think the server-side solution would be to do something similar to "Temporal Ambassador" and swap in grayscale textures.

    Sortof... "If forehead = Kli_ridge_04, then do forehead = Kli_ridge_04_gray."
  • mikeward1701mikeward1701 Member Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yep, Jet-Packs, or "Floaters" as they're called, can only be used on the new Risa map.

    No doubt Tacofangs or another cryptic environment artist can correct me on this if I'm wrong, but from what I understand this is because when you increase the viewing perspective, you have to do a lot more work to make things look real.

    In theatre, film, and television, an environment or set, will only be viewed by the audience from a limited perspective. Therefore in order to save money, set makers only apply the illusion of realism to that visual perspective.

    One you exit the visual perspective, what looked real soon shows its true nature, half shapes, skewed perspectives, textured flat scenery, and once you go behind the scenes the illusion is gone forever, replaced by unpainted fibreboard and timber frames.

    Virtual environment artists have learned from this and employ the same tricks, because it saves memory and processing power. If you've ever used a games noclip cheat or fallen through a map, you've gone 'behind the scenes', but this time the unpainted fibreboard and timber frames aren't there, because they're not needed. What you experience is a weird void-like space, where some things exist and others dont.

    STO is no different, it's interior and ground maps, are designed and built, to be viewed at ground level. Look for videos/screenshots of people 'exploring' the grounds of Starfleet Academy or the rooftops of Hathon on Bajor, and you see that once you move from ground level or out of the intended visual perspective, things are not what they seem.

    TL : DR; Flying limited to new Risa, 'cause every other map is not designed to be viewed from so many angles.
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  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited June 2013
    There are a lot of problems that come from allowing people to fly (trust me, I've worked on 2 separate Superhero MMOs). But Risa was built with this in mind, so it should be good to go. It would be a considerable amount of work (and a billion bugs) if we allowed you to fly your 'floater' everywhere else in the game.
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  • dcblackmandcblackman Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tacofangs wrote: »
    There are a lot of problems that come from allowing people to fly (trust me, I've worked on 2 separate Superhero MMOs). But Risa was built with this in mind, so it should be good to go. It would be a considerable amount of work (and a billion bugs) if we allowed you to fly your 'floater' everywhere else in the game.


    well not Everywhere, but you could "Edit" some other maps to make the Floater usable.
    New Romulus Defera and Nimbus for example
  • tacofangstacofangs Member Posts: 2,951 Cryptic Developer
    edited June 2013
    I'm telling you, there is a ton of work in trying to retrofit an existing map, that was not designed for flying characters. It's not something I want to do, and I really hope we don't head down that rabbit hole.
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  • trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    There are one of a dozen different games that you could enable no-clipping/debug mode and fly around the map and could see that the maps were not designed to be seen from certain heights or to be able to walk on certain objects. Now you're going to need to add textures and designs to things not meant to be seen or were never made, like backs of buildings and add collision to roof tops that you would otherwise fall through, that is a lot of work.
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  • bumblebushbumblebush Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    tacofangs wrote: »
    "Floaters" is actually canon.

    Canon!?!...for the last few weeks now iv been hearing this word quit alot.

    Just wondering is there a meening behind this word? or does it describe more then one thing?
    IDK! Some one plz tell me what Canon meens? thank you!:) and sorry! im a little new to STO:o
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  • neoakiraiineoakiraii Member Posts: 7,468 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    bumblebush wrote: »
    Canon!?!...for the last few weeks now iv been hearing this word quit alot.

    Just wondering is there a meening behind this word? or does it describe more then one thing?
    IDK! Some one plz tell me what Canon meens? thank you!:) and sorry! im a little new to STO:o

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=canon
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  • chivalrybeanchivalrybean Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    bumblebush wrote: »
    Canon!?!...for the last few weeks now iv been hearing this word quit alot.

    Just wondering is there a meening behind this word? or does it describe more then one thing?
    IDK! Some one plz tell me what Canon meens? thank you!:) and sorry! im a little new to STO:o

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  • kalanikalani Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    bumblebush wrote: »
    Canon!?!...for the last few weeks now iv been hearing this word quit alot.

    Just wondering is there a meening behind this word? or does it describe more then one thing?
    IDK! Some one plz tell me what Canon meens? thank you!:) and sorry! im a little new to STO:o

    Whats that? Somebody put floaters in a canon? Now Risas gonna smell like a public restroom till August. Now we know the real reason there not giving out swimwear and letting us hit the beach.

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  • bumblebushbumblebush Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    neoakiraii wrote: »
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=canon

    Ah! thank alot.

    Now I can understand what canon meens when used in game in chat, when describing some thing.

    Thanks!:)






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  • milanvoriusmilanvorius Member Posts: 641 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    bumblebush wrote: »
    Ah! thank alot.

    Now I can understand what canon meens when used in game in chat, when describing some thing.

    Thanks!:)


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  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    milanvorius wrote: »
    I thought cannon was those 2 shiny heavy things on front of my escort. Learn something new everyday. :)

    cannon and canon are two different things. >>
  • idronaidrona Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I kinda like rabbit holes. :P
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  • mikeward1701mikeward1701 Member Posts: 277 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    idrona wrote: »
    I kinda like rabbit holes. :P

    http://youtu.be/Nvs5pqf-DMA

    How abut this one? :P
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  • vesterengvestereng Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Too bad!

    But it's of course easy to imagine the clipping issues on a lot of maps if you unleash this thing.
  • idronaidrona Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    mikeward1701 wrote: »
    http://youtu.be/Nvs5pqf-DMA

    How abut this one? :P

    Lol scary stuff. :eek:
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  • lordzakathlordzakath Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    sollvax wrote: »
    Floater of course is a pork pie in mushy peas
    All this time I thought it was a modified alien sent to earth from an alien base set up on Mars. along with its cybernetically enhanced over-sized puppy.
  • ferdzso0ferdzso0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    NOOOOOOOO. only Risa? I wanted to equpi them with my frosted boots, and make some nice skiing lanidngs from the bridge on new romulus
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