I am all for future seasons and expansions that are based in the current early 25th century time line with maybe the Dominion, the Cardassians and the Borg as has been hinted and suggested. But couldn't we also maybe somehow have tied into the plot an expansion that allowed you to play as a characters in the time line of Enterprise and the original series?
I for one would like any excuse to try out the Enterprise Class famed by Captain Archer with Phase cannons as well as the earlier Spatial and Photonic Torpedoes and of course the original Constitution class ship of Jim Kirk fame with the effects inspired by the remastered version of the original series; such as being able to also fire Proximity Phasers as seen in the "Balance Of Terror" episode with a chance of hitting a cloaked vessel.
Would maybe take the creative development of the game as a whole too much off at a tangent and not be easily to fit into the current PVP's and PVE's if they weren't as advanced as 25th century vessels but also going back to the start of things as well as the future has been a hallmark of this and other franchises.
this game is already topsy turvy as it is , adding more ships that arguably shouldnt even exist outside of museum ships and derelicts at this point isnt really the way the game needs to go
both ships you have mentioned ( NX and 1701 ) are in the game already anyway
Well, there could be a supernova or something in the 25th century, say 2410, that caused a ship to go back in time and start a new timeline for us to play...Oh, wait a minute...
I Have a great Idea, and i want to know your opinion about it, , i think they can add it in game in a (blink),, here it comes what if, all newbies at the beginning , like every single officer must earn there first , new ship. and they should start ,, yes ,, there it comes as a first officer ,, fits totaly in a startrek story and easy build in,, well let me know how you guys think about it,,, sory for my english writting skills cause iam dutch (-.
I Have a great Idea, and i want to know your opinion about it, , i think they can add it in game in a (blink),, here it comes what if, all newbies at the beginning , like every single officer must earn there first , new ship. and they should start ,, yes ,, there it comes as a first officer ,, fits totaly in a startrek story and easy build in,, well let me know how you guys think about it,,, sory for my english writting skills cause iam dutch (-.
So basically you would start as commander and would have no way of choosing where to go? All you would do were away missions?
As far as I'm concerned there isn't even a need for promotions. The game could very well start at Captain. You would still have levels to raise and skills to define, but there would be no promotion. You could gain "prestige" or whatever it is you would call it, and it would be your reputation that would allow you to get better ships.
Why? STO is best moving forward in the prime universe... just not going to be nuff draw to justify backfilling trek canon by covering earlier centuries... and.. I would imagine CBS might just have some real issues with it. I would if I were them..
You want stuff in earlier time periods.. as soon as foundry is back up, have at it!
IMHO, any ship b4 TNG shouldn't be in game tbh. Why the hell ppl like to have those is beyond my comprehension. Would I like to see a t5 Connie? Absolutely not. Feel weird to have that old in the 25th.
Also, why cant all fed ships have cannons? It's illogical to not having cannons in a war with KDF. Every type of weapon has pro/con. If we want to put dc or dhc on a slow turning cruisers, so be it.
And plz stop using the canon crappy excuse. STO is based on 25th century. Most of the stuff in STO is non-canon. For example, since when the tholian is stronger than the borg? If they r that strong, they would conquer the fed/kdf/rom a long time b4 even the borg set foot on the alpha quadrant. A lot of thing in STO has nothing to do with ST imo.
IMHO, any ship b4 TNG shouldn't be in game tbh. Why the hell ppl like to have those is beyond my comprehension. Would I like to see a t5 Connie? Absolutely not. Feel weird to have that old in the 25th.
Also, why cant all fed ships have cannons? It's illogical to not having cannons in a war with KDF. Every type of weapon has pro/con. If we want to put dc or dhc on a slow turning cruisers, so be it.
And plz stop using the canon crappy excuse. STO is based on 25th century. Most of the stuff in STO is non-canon. For example, since when the tholian is stronger than the borg? If they r that strong, they would conquer the fed/kdf/rom a long time b4 even the borg set foot on the alpha quadrant. A lot of thing in STO has nothing to do with ST imo.
You have one of the best points in the thread. 25th century is a bit late to be using equipment that old, but if vanity is suited. Perhaps offered as a costume?
Actually this would be an awesome idea for a holodeck, unless of course we need to argue that holodecks shouldn't be allowed because people have no business enjoying the game in a way that differs from the opinions of a few self-absorbed know-it-alls...
More diversity in the game is better, and a holodeck opens up all kinds of interesting story arcs from historical events in the TOS timeline all the way to the crazy things the TNG crew were doing there.
I completely support a holodeck oriented feature series that showcases a specific time period in Star Trek history and I doubt it would "ruin the game" as many like to think. Surprisingly many people enjoy the game because of the different shows and how the game connects to them, not just for the new story being trying to be told.
IMHO, any ship b4 TNG shouldn't be in game tbh. Why the hell ppl like to have those is beyond my comprehension. Would I like to see a t5 Connie? Absolutely not. Feel weird to have that old in the 25th.
Just to clear some things up as the instigator of this thread. I did say that I thought that the main thrust of any expansion should remain in the prime universe time line of the 25th century and like you (even in cannon Star Trek) I actually prefer more the TNG set era.
That said it does not mean ,speaking for myself but I would be surprised if there weren't others, that from time to time I wouldn't like the opportunity to also go retro to the start of the Star trek era and if any expansion based on that (especially for PVP's and PVE's) was too unwieldy and couldn't elegantly fit into the game as Cryptic has developed it then they shouldn't do it.
So as has been suggested (if not in the foundry or as a holodeck simulation) how about something involving time travel/changed time lines in which as in the "Temporal Ambassador" episode your in command of a 25th century vessel and then you find your character(s) in the uniform and command of a vessel from the 22nd or 23rd century? Memories are fragmented but as in "Temporal Ambassador" they know something is not quite right and they have to complete a mission to restore the time line. Pretext for command of an Enterprise Class Vessel or Constitution Class vessel which isn't a refit in the 25th with the actual capabilities of the time. Get to do things novel like use proximity phasers as in the original series "Balance Of Terror" episode. Complete the mission with the prime universe time line restored and everything as it was back in the 25th century. Go back to the main thrust of the game.
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both ships you have mentioned ( NX and 1701 ) are in the game already anyway
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Just in case you missed it the first time here it is again ^
I think the best you could hope for would be a "timetravel forward" episode.
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This. I've been able to get 5 people to Vice Admiral or equivelant and smack every major power more than once in a single day.
Maybe a week.
So basically you would start as commander and would have no way of choosing where to go? All you would do were away missions?
As far as I'm concerned there isn't even a need for promotions. The game could very well start at Captain. You would still have levels to raise and skills to define, but there would be no promotion. You could gain "prestige" or whatever it is you would call it, and it would be your reputation that would allow you to get better ships.
well, in game time about 6 months have passed from Vega colony to Level 50.
You want stuff in earlier time periods.. as soon as foundry is back up, have at it!
Also, why cant all fed ships have cannons? It's illogical to not having cannons in a war with KDF. Every type of weapon has pro/con. If we want to put dc or dhc on a slow turning cruisers, so be it.
And plz stop using the canon crappy excuse. STO is based on 25th century. Most of the stuff in STO is non-canon. For example, since when the tholian is stronger than the borg? If they r that strong, they would conquer the fed/kdf/rom a long time b4 even the borg set foot on the alpha quadrant. A lot of thing in STO has nothing to do with ST imo.
You have one of the best points in the thread. 25th century is a bit late to be using equipment that old, but if vanity is suited. Perhaps offered as a costume?
More diversity in the game is better, and a holodeck opens up all kinds of interesting story arcs from historical events in the TOS timeline all the way to the crazy things the TNG crew were doing there.
I completely support a holodeck oriented feature series that showcases a specific time period in Star Trek history and I doubt it would "ruin the game" as many like to think. Surprisingly many people enjoy the game because of the different shows and how the game connects to them, not just for the new story being trying to be told.
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Just to clear some things up as the instigator of this thread. I did say that I thought that the main thrust of any expansion should remain in the prime universe time line of the 25th century and like you (even in cannon Star Trek) I actually prefer more the TNG set era.
That said it does not mean ,speaking for myself but I would be surprised if there weren't others, that from time to time I wouldn't like the opportunity to also go retro to the start of the Star trek era and if any expansion based on that (especially for PVP's and PVE's) was too unwieldy and couldn't elegantly fit into the game as Cryptic has developed it then they shouldn't do it.
So as has been suggested (if not in the foundry or as a holodeck simulation) how about something involving time travel/changed time lines in which as in the "Temporal Ambassador" episode your in command of a 25th century vessel and then you find your character(s) in the uniform and command of a vessel from the 22nd or 23rd century? Memories are fragmented but as in "Temporal Ambassador" they know something is not quite right and they have to complete a mission to restore the time line. Pretext for command of an Enterprise Class Vessel or Constitution Class vessel which isn't a refit in the 25th with the actual capabilities of the time. Get to do things novel like use proximity phasers as in the original series "Balance Of Terror" episode. Complete the mission with the prime universe time line restored and everything as it was back in the 25th century. Go back to the main thrust of the game.