Breen 2pc Set...crunch the numbers.

droidlover · June 2013

Ok, I've tried searching the forums and can't find an answer for this. I am running an all torpedo boat...transphasics currently but considering additional projectile options for my T'varo.

Part of the breen 2 pc. set bonus (Superconducting Phase Channels) on my ship gives me +32.5 transphasic projectile damage.

Is this number a percentage? A flat damage bonus? An increase to a certain skills? If so, how would those skills calculate to actual damage.

I wonder because I am trying to calculate if it's better to have the Breen set or go with a set that gives a 25% torpedo damage (such as the adapted MACO i.e. Honor Guard).

Thanks for any insight.

jetwtf · June 2013

Try the breen set with the transphasics and then the tranphaics without and see what the differance is in damage would be an easy way to find out, especialy considering the set is free. Also you can add transphasic tac consoles for extra hits. But It might not be a percentage of the base damage but a skill increase when using transphasic. Bt regardless the other sets are better in other ways and might be the better choice.

pottsey5g · June 2013

+32.5 Transphasic projectile damage gives a better damage boost then 25% torpedo damage. Also the adapted MACO does not boost mines or the Transphasic Cluster torp. The numbers are a percentage boost but it does not work as you think. You do not get +30% or 25% to total damage.

dashuk2381 · June 2013

I've run a 3-piece Breen on a few ships while grinding marks for the other sets and I can tell you it does make a big difference, especially with the cluster mine torpedoes, those do a ton of damage with the 2-piece bonus compared to without it. I was glad they actually gave the Breen shields a bit of a graphics change.

hasukurobi · June 2013

Considering that Transphasics are the worst Torp in the game and that the Honor Guard set will boost every torp type you have + give you additional power bonuses which are very nice for Romulans; I believe the choice to go with that set is clearly a winner. Get the Engine and Deflector but keep the Omega Shield.

macronius · June 2013

Transphasic + Breen 2 piece set is a good combo. I equipped all transphasic tac consoles and mixed, transphasic, rapid fire and breen cluster is awesome. Add a quantum launcher and some torpedo doffs and it is even better.

With all buffs I have instagibbed cruisers.

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ursusmorologus · June 2013

To answer the OP's question, I *think* it is like adding 32 to projectile skill, except that it only applies to transphasics. If you can find the fomula for projectile skill points then you might be able to come up with some comparisons. Publish the data if you get that far, please.

droidlover · June 2013

edalgo wrote: »

Just yesterday I was testing torp spread 3 vs hy3 with different torp modifiers against a healer recluse. He was in aw that a few times when I buffed up I was able to 1 shot him a few times with the cluster and torps.

What were your results of spread3 vs hy3?

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iskandus · June 2013

edalgo wrote: »

Spread3 with CrtD x3 torps when it crits will do the same dps as a HY3 with Accx3 torps. The problem is with Accuracy on the spread and when it misses.

For PVE the spread is nice to hit multiple targets and Acc is less of a concern

For pvp it's more difficult since the TS3 with those torps will miss more but will help clear spam and make up the difference on other targets. Very effective against cruisers and science but not as much against speedy escorts.

Pros and cons for both in pvp but pve the spread is clear winner

Are you sure you don't have a typo in there? TS3 has 100% accuracy, they can never miss. Escorts can never escape from Torpedo Spread but can with High Yield. In other words, what you just wrote can't possibly be true. Did you really do these tests or just make them up?

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iskandus · June 2013

edalgo wrote: »

Yes i actually did the test. I used to believe the same until I was shown different. The visual effects are 100% but the damage and crits are not. The damage numbers are about the same as a unbuffed single torp with Accx3 when it doesn't crit.

This is impossible and totally false. I have been using nothing but Torpedo spread for as far as I can remember. Not once did the TS miss, ever. The reason why this is impossible is because the way STO engine calculates TS damage is made at the moment the torps were launched per the dev team. Plus, when my torps hit the target, the amount of actual damage per torp appears on the screen and torp spread always list the damage per torp, not a wholesome number since they don't all crit even for those within the same volley.

And contrary to your claim that visual effects are 100%, that is in fact not true. The visual effects animation aren't always there due to a number of reasons, delay, lag or simply the target has flown too far away. After a while, if the visual animation cannot be played, the target will simply register the hits and the corresponding damage numbers without the visual effects. And in cases where the target's hull reach 0, they will blow up even without any visual effects of being hit.

Conclusion : It's impossible you have done the tests that you claimed have done. If TS are no longer 100% accurate, not only I'll be the first to notice, there will be a lot of threads about it by now. Plus, anyone familiar with TS knows the visuals aren't always there so for anyone to claim that is 100% can only mean their statements are completely made up - aka. fabricated.

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Breen 2pc Set...crunch the numbers.

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