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jim940jim940 Member Posts: 178 Arc User
So I finally get to level 40 on my Romulan character only to find out I can't claim a Excelsior Cruiser Retrofit for this character, who is a Fed Faction Romulan.

Boo. I guess I won't be logging into my Romulan Character anymore. :(

Jim
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  • wildweasalwildweasal Member Posts: 1,053 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    im sorry have you been living in a bubble? this was known WEEKS ago stop crying improvise adapt and over come L2p and explore why romulan ships are different ....after all that .....you are then dismissed
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  • jim940jim940 Member Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    wildweasel,

    How about instead of me "learn to play", you try and "learn to read".

    There was very specific information released about the expansion before it came out,
    In this brand-new, special edition of Ask Cryptic, Executive Producer Daniel Stahl delivers answers to player submitted questions about our upcoming expansion.
    Dstahl: In many ways, Romulans will have the best of two "worlds" ? theirs and their ally?s. Not only do they have their own exclusive stories, ships, and costumes, but they gain many benefits of their ally. This includes access to a variety of their allies? ships, rewards, and hubs.
    Dstahl: Romulan Republic captains not only have access to their exclusive faction ships, but will also have access to the ships and consoles of their chosen ally.

    One would figure that his word would have been enough not to worry about my only issue with the expansion. I guess not. One more reason not to spend any more money on this game either, beyond the Dill exchange crash.

    Jim
  • f9thaceshighf9thaceshigh Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    they've also said, repeatedly, that you only get access to your ally's ships to tier 4.

    nowhere in those quotes you found did Stahl say you get all of your ally's ships.

    this is from April's Ask Cryptic:
    Q: Will Romulans have access to their allies' C-Store ships and consoles? When a Romulan character opens a console reward pack from a lockbox, what (if anything) will she get?

    STO Team: As revealed in a recent blog, there has been a change in which allied ships members of the Romulan Republic can command. Romulans will have access to Tier 4 and lower C-Store ships and consoles from those ships, but will not be able to command Tier 5 (Rear Admiral, Vice Admiral, Brigadier General, or Lieutenant General) ships.

    This is from LoR blog #9 (the blog referenced in the above quote)
    Allied Ships (Updated!)
    When a Romulan Captain chooses to ally with the Federation or the Klingon Defense Force, they gain access to a limited number of their ally?s ships. Romulan Captains can obtain Tier 1 through Tier 4 allied ships for Dilithium or in the C-Store, depending on the specific ship. Romulan Captains cannot command, nor purchase/ claim, Tier 5 (Rear Admiral, Vice Admiral, Brigadier General, or Lieutenant General) ships from the faction that they have allied with.
  • jim940jim940 Member Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    this is from April's Ask Cryptic:

    A month after the information I posted. Which is part of my point in my disappointment in this.

    Access to your ally's ships is access to them.

    The fact that they added restrictions a month after Dstahl said there would be access is not only disappointing, it's a used car salesmen tactic.

    Jim
  • marshalericdavidmarshalericdavid Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    jim940 wrote: »
    So I finally get to level 40 on my Romulan character only to find out I can't claim a Excelsior Cruiser Retrofit for this character, who is a Fed Faction Romulan.

    Boo. I guess I won't be logging into my Romulan Character anymore. :(

    Jim

    So you wanted to play a Romulan but fly a end game Federation ship well if Romulans could do that fly the end game ship of their ally choice why play anything other then play on the Romulan side?

    These type of posts keep popping up so much. I just don't understand why people would think it is a good idea to hurt both the Fed and Klingon side by allowing Romulans to have unlimited access to their allies ships and technology.

    You want to fly a Fed ship play on the Fed side.

    You want to fly a Klingon ship play on the Klingon side.

    You want to fly a Romulan ship play on the Romulan side.
  • jim940jim940 Member Posts: 178 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Nowhere did Dstahl ever say Rommies would get access to every allied ship.

    If you bother to learn some English and read you'd understand the "variety" comment goes beyond the ships, but the over all Ally's faction.

    No, restrictions specifically on ships were mentioned. Which was followed through by Dstahl about the ability to use your allies ships, without any restrictions being mentioned in the second quote.
    Dstahl: Romulan Republic captains not only have access to their exclusive faction ships, but will also have access to the ships and consoles of their chosen ally.

    Reading comprehension classes might be helpful to you before you continue to post.

    Jim
  • tpolebreakertpolebreaker Member Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yes that information was "very" specific. If you bothered to read what you quoted, Dstahl said:

    This includes access to a variety of their allies? ships, rewards, and hubs.

    Did you notice that word "Variety"? Variety does not mean "all". Nowhere did Dstahl ever say Rommies would get access to every allied ship.

    Umm... just because you are basically being an TRIBBLE... "variety" is almost the definition of NON-specific. Specific would have been to list the ships available to romulans. It's about as specific as saying some ships, or many ships, or a few ships.

    The only caveat that was made clear was that tier 5 allied ships would not be available, and that was only in a dev blog, and only after it was updated.

    Yes the OP probably should have noticed the red line saying his character cannot use this item, but lets not be dicks about it.
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  • captsolcaptsol Member Posts: 921 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    jim940 wrote: »
    If you bother to learn some English and read you'd understand the "variety" comment goes beyond the ships, but the over all Ally's faction.

    No, restrictions specifically on ships were mentioned. Which was followed through by Dstahl about the ability to use your allies ships, without any restrictions being mentioned in the second quote.



    Reading comprehension classes might be helpful to you before you continue to post.

    Jim

    Yep. It was changed. Because Romulan players would be bothered by people flying around in Federation or Klingon ships and ruining the immersion for a Romulan faction that already wasn't feeling like a true faction because they were being forced to ally with the Federation or the Klingons.

    Huge rage threads were thrown up about the alliances, huge rage threads were thrown up about the ships. People pointed out that allowing end-tier Federation and Klingon ships would mean that we probably wouldn't see very many end game Romulan ships in-game at all. In the end, Cryptic decided that the needs of the many outweighed the needs of the few, or the one and so Romulans don't get to fly around in T5 Federation or Klingon ships. That's it. Plain and Simple.
  • warmaker001bwarmaker001b Member Posts: 9,205 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    If you want to play with Romulan warships, you roll a Romulan / Reman toon.

    If you want to play with Starfleet ships, you roll a Starfleet toon.

    If you want to play with KDF warships, you roll a KDF toon.

    /classdismissed
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  • logicalspocklogicalspock Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Here is what happened:

    Cryptic developers were trying to decide how to handle an issue related to an UNRELEASED function.

    They initially decided to release it one way.

    Then, after discussion among themselves and the beta community, they chose to release it another way.

    That is why it is called a development blog, not the ten developers' commandments etched in a stone tablet.

    I am sorry you do not agree with the decision; however, I do. The developers cannot please everyone.
  • imadoctornotaimadoctornota Member Posts: 469 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    jim940 wrote: »
    A month after the information I posted. Which is part of my point in my disappointment in this.

    Access to your ally's ships is access to them.

    The fact that they added restrictions a month after Dstahl said there would be access is not only disappointing, it's a used car salesmen tactic.

    Jim

    No, Dan wasn't being a used car salesman, what happened is that they released that info and most people hatred the very thought of it! Just click the "Great news" link in my signature. It'll take you to a thread that probably factored into their decision to change it to its current format.

    Why would you want an excelsior anyway? Romulans trait favors cloaking, Romulan ships have cloaking. You're not capitalizing on the biggest advantage to being Romulan otherwise.
    Thanks for the expansion that had "as much content as the last"
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  • tpolebreakertpolebreaker Member Posts: 266 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    @, then what does your posts, laced with negativity and vulgarity, say about you.

    In the future if you wish to act superior and take the high road, best not soil yourself with a potty mouth.

    :P

    Reap what you sow, buddy. Your post was not polite, it was snarky and disrespectful, not to mention incorrect. Take your own advice.

    :P
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  • lucianazetalucianazeta Member Posts: 740 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    jim940 wrote: »
    A month after the information I posted. Which is part of my point in my disappointment in this.

    Access to your ally's ships is access to them.

    The fact that they added restrictions a month after Dstahl said there would be access is not only disappointing, it's a used car salesmen tactic.

    Jim

    It was changed because of all the backlash from the community.

    Both from Romulans who saw their immersion being broken by it and by Fed/KDF players who feared there wouldn't be a point in rolling Fed or KDF anymore since Romulans get everything of those factions anyway.

    I think this is a good compromise, we get most of our Fed/KDF consoles yet we are reminded that we Romulans are supposed to be flying warbirds at T5.
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  • emacsheadroomemacsheadroom Member Posts: 994 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    So the op is upset because Cryptic decided (and informed us) two months ago instead of three months ago that Romulan characters wouldn't have access to endgame allied ships. And the op thinks that Cryptic changing their minds and informing us about it is the same thing as lying and false advertising. Right. :rolleyes:
  • smokeybacon90smokeybacon90 Member Posts: 2,252 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Ironically enough this decision was largely supported by the community anyway. With a choice of 3 factions' worth of endgame ships the Romulans would have had a very unfair advantage.
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  • rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
    edited June 2013
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    Syrian Rebels: Oooh does that mean we can have one of your state of the art Daring class T45 Destroyers?

    British PM: Errr bloody no!

    Think I made my point.
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