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cryptics take in the Narada with adapted rom ships!!
captainwallis84
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Im fairly certain thats what cryptic are trying to achieve with these new lock box ships. They look very similar to the narada from the jj verse and the countdown comics. My only question is how/why?
For a start I thought cryptic didnt have the rights to do ships from the new films (and you cant say they arnt as they blatantly look like the Narada). If this is the case then surly they can add parts to the cinstitution class to make it look like the jj enterprise.
Now im aware there alot of jj verse haters on here and I for one love the new films and trek in general. I also love the new constitution design. I know its not everyones cup of tea, but I would love to have something like the nx class and have a lower teir jj connie. Why dont cryptic just give us some ship parts that look similar.
Im just puzzled as to why we have these "narada" like ships, because thats what they are.
For a start I thought cryptic didnt have the rights to do ships from the new films (and you cant say they arnt as they blatantly look like the Narada). If this is the case then surly they can add parts to the cinstitution class to make it look like the jj enterprise.
Now im aware there alot of jj verse haters on here and I for one love the new films and trek in general. I also love the new constitution design. I know its not everyones cup of tea, but I would love to have something like the nx class and have a lower teir jj connie. Why dont cryptic just give us some ship parts that look similar.
Im just puzzled as to why we have these "narada" like ships, because thats what they are.
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Though the ships in sto only resemble the design of the Narada, and are not a copy of her.
I dont know if they are trying to mimic the Narada, maybe just using a similar design motif that appeals primarily to 12 year olds and end up at the same place
Not at all, and it's pretty clear if you pay attention to Hakeev's flagship through the Romulan campaign.
The first time you see it, Hakeev still has both eyes, and it's a plain D'derix.
The second time you see it, Hakeev's missing one eye (which he lost in the previous battle), and it's equipped with the Borg set visuals.
The third time you see it, you're actually on board. Hakeev has his Borg implant now (he was never a liberated Borg, but an artificial one), the corridors are heavily assimilated, and there's labs where they are experimenting with creating artificial Borg drones and artificially assimilating various pieces of technology like one of those Elachi spider mechs.
Immediately after that, you see it in space again and it's now an Adapted Battlecruiser.
Their explanation is that the Tal shiar are experimenting with borg tech, if you play the rommy story line you actually get to see Hakeeves ships slowly become more and more borgafied each time you run into him, not to mention he fixes his lost eye with borg tech.
Or instead of Cryptic getting away with highway robbery for charging for every little thing in the game, Try letting people actually earn it in game. And also not charge Zen for fleet ship modules, because it takes a TRIBBLE load of resources to build up a starbase anyway. But money is important to them not their customers.
Money is important, with out it the game wouldn't be here. but that said sto has a very good free to play model, nothing in the game, this expludes sub's but their not "in the game", can not be obtained with time and some effort. You can convert dilithium into zen, then zen into any of the store items you want, you can convert the store item into EC and buy the lock box stuff off the exchange.
All in all a free player has access to everything someone with cash does if they put in time and effort. Or "earn it in game" rather then just pay for it.
Now is your time worth it to farm up the zen, or EC, that's up to you to decide. But the option is there unlike some free to play set ups.
at this point I would even be tempted to argue, that there are not enough gold bonuses
the f2p model is good. the game is expensive for everyone in the same way, free to players have a wee bit more to spend, but not too significantly more
10k DPS Vesta threads: 1; 2
They can be gotten in game without spending a single penny, cent or whatever. They are not bound after all. Farm the EC and buy it, you can do that for the LB ships, the modules and even the keys.
Read the comic for that particular story.
But they do look like the Iconian ship that we see in a couple of places. We also know from Taris that Hakeev is communicating directly with the Iconians.
So as a reader my assumption is that Cryptic chose not to tell us the part of the story where he gets Iconian ships. Because that's the only way to make any sense from it.
The OORP answer is that cryptic wanted to make them like this, for whatever reason, maybe the Narada maybe the 12 year old appeal factor of spikey black ships. I struggle to make it work, best I can come up with is that they are Iconian and the story was mangled somewhere along the way. That happens a lot.
Id blame the Narada, which who knows what inspired it. That or you could say that the Tal shiar were inspired by something, possibly Iconians, possibly other things. or that they are just having trouble using a tech they don't fully understand, and that wants to turn all ships into some form of geodesic shape.
The assimilated transport in Regeneration, for starters. Sharien's Swords and Donatra's Scimitar for others. Type 03 (fewer and larger but still present), implied via retcon to not be of original Borg make, the USS Raven's partially assimilated wreck, the Narada (even without resorting to extended universe silliness, as this is stated in the supplemental production notes on the DVD version), both Voyager and Enterprise-E temporarily and to lesser extents (both having had much briefer contact with assimilation than any of the other ships in this list but both having projections installed on their deflectors).
In fact, every ship implied or shown to be of non-Borg construction but recent assimilation.
It's the Romulan reverse-engineered version of Borg technology...which actually looks more like a mix between Babylon 5 Shadow tech and the machines from the "Matrix" movies.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_G96gxvrHqrE/SgE_UnkLgnI/AAAAAAAAGFY/s-kWIf5pLuU/s1600-h/STCountdownPanel6.JPG
That's why it doesn't actually look like Borg technology added to the hull (like Voyager had in "Scorpion)...it's what the Romulans interpreted from Borg tech...
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The Narada was outfitted with Borg inspired Romulan Tech by the Tal Shair and they used the Nero and the Narada has Guinea Pigs to test out the Tech.
The Countdown series is a pretty good read that takes place in the Prime Universe and is quite canon.
I'm hoping that Cryptic adds the Mini Scimitars that the Reman were flying in Countdown to STO, they looked Epic :cool:
You forgot to mention they did this at the Vault.
That's a bit...iffy.
If we take the hard-canon route only what's on the big an small screen is canon.
But for STO, it certainly is.
I'm surprised they didn't make it into the LoR release.
While they lack detail in the comics,
http://6.mshcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/star-trek-countdown.jpg
http://img1.imagebanana.com/img/asw9cy51/Remans2.jpg
some of STO's own uniforms were based on the equally undetailed uniform from the Countdown comics and those turned out great.
As for the Narada's design, I am confident to the extreme that it was taken fom Babylon 5's "Shadow" ships ( which were living ships and which idea was taken by another game wherein humanity ultimately loses ). Babylon 5 as many of you know came out in the mid 1990's, so the progression has been JMS with the shadows, JJ Abrahms with the Narada, and cryptic with the adapted tal shiar ships.. the key here though is that it was the shadow ships that were the original uber ship bad boys. They were defeated by the White Star fleet, of which who's ships look remarkably like a cross between a D'Dex and a Wells.. And frankly, they were never defeated as they up and left the universe along with the Vorlons. now, this observation is not meant to negate or change any of the discussion here so far. its merely my observation and opinion..
EDIT:: really just an addendum.. Even greater and more obvious conection to Babylon 5's shadows.
""#2 Feb 2013
Star Trek: Countdown to Darkness
Surrounded by natives of Phaedus IV led by Captain Robert April, Kirk confronts the former commander of a previous Enterprise, reported dead twenty years ago. April explains that theyre in the middle of a terrible civil war and Kirk's shuttle was shot down by the opposition. Still under attack, Kirk and Spock are forced to leave their crewmates behind in the shuttle and follow April to safety in a hidden cavern. Safe for the moment, April explains why he's on the planet. Kirk learns that his shuttle crew has been captured by April's adversaries, the Shadows. He also learns what April expects of him. Meanwhile, Uhura has the conn, and is notified of an unidentified incoming vessel. The ship's pilot is a businesswoman making a delivery to Phaedus. She claims to be working for April. Her name is Mudd""