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tharon3
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I bought the D'Deridex and the tavero-may have spelled wrong but the VA Bop warbird-
and saw that i could not put the warp core projectkile console or the destabilized plasma torpedo console on the other ship. I feel that at least these two consoles should be able to be put on either of the ships because theres nothing that differs them. what i mean by that Is that they both have warp cores and if the small bop can have such a torpedo a ''mighty''
D'Deridex should be able to have one. not to mention that for the federation and the
kdf have ship consoles-or for some equipment-that can be put on any other kdf vessel.so alls that i ask is that at least these two can be put on any ship.
i did not say any thing about the mogia or dehal because I don't know much about them
so maybe some one could add the info about the consoles in-hopefully- replied post:)
and saw that i could not put the warp core projectkile console or the destabilized plasma torpedo console on the other ship. I feel that at least these two consoles should be able to be put on either of the ships because theres nothing that differs them. what i mean by that Is that they both have warp cores and if the small bop can have such a torpedo a ''mighty''
D'Deridex should be able to have one. not to mention that for the federation and the
kdf have ship consoles-or for some equipment-that can be put on any other kdf vessel.so alls that i ask is that at least these two can be put on any ship.
i did not say any thing about the mogia or dehal because I don't know much about them
so maybe some one could add the info about the consoles in-hopefully- replied post:)
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The universal consoles that can be used on any ship come from lower tier ships, so for example, the console from the Tier 1 T'Varo can be used on any ship (I'm using it on my D'Deridex atm.), or if you got the console from the Tier 4 C-Store D'Deridex variant - the D'ridthau you can put it on your VA T'Varo or any other ship.
Tier 5 ships they figure people already buy them because they are end game ships and their is no need to make the consoles usable on other ships. I also think they want end game ships to be a little more unique and having special consoles for those ships helps to do that.
but those ships usually have consoles that have them unique to fit that ship
Originally, the T5 Defiant, Intrepid, and Galaxy did not have a console. Their power was built in and the ship sacrificed a consle for them. By making the powers console bound and giving those ships an extra slot, they improved flexibility of those ships. You could ditch the console power for something different. Thankfully, those consoles can be used on a fleet refit.
Sorry, but don't understand what you mean. For ex. there's nothing unique for the T'Varo in the Singularity Stabilizer console that comes with the Tier 1 refit, it's usefull to restart the singularity powers on any warbird.
He's trying to explain to you that Tier 5 Ship consoles DO not get used on other ships for any of the factions.
Things like the Defiant console only go on the defiant... not every fed ship can have a cloak for instance.
The same design philosophy was extended to the Romulan Faction... as it should be.
Varos are seen as small sneaky torp firing ship so they get a Super torp console with a 2 peice bonus that makes it the best torp boat.
The DD is seen as the large super cruiser science ship... and it gets a console that fits that setup.
The Dhelean is the Sci Scort Supreme... so it gets a very science style Special console and the 2 piece bonus gives it the same passive bonus escort class ships get that the Warbirds do not.
The Tier 5 consoles... ARE intended to be skills that are unique to that class of warbird.
It is STO game design. Just like you can't take the defiant cloak console and put it on another federation escort... you can't take the Tier 5 Warbird consoles and put them on whatever you want.
lol
the grumba and galaxy-x dread the extra and ''extremely'' powerful beam they have are
-again- unique. but for the saucer separation pretty much every Starfleet cruiser-correct me if I'm wrong has a saucer and a stardrive that with the console could separate. the oddesy tactical cruiser has the small shuttle like ship that could most likely be able to be put on other cruisers because they-at least the sovereign has a shuttle bay. for the D'Deridex it has a project singularity warp core and ever other romulan ship-or should I just say warbird- has a singularity core that with the console could be projected.
with the destabilized plasma the only thing that really makes it unique to the bop is that you can only get it after buying that ship. so let me change now that at least on romulan and fed ''game ender'' ships some colsoles could be put on other ships.
I don't know all the consoles for the other kdf ships cannot remember off the top of my head but i'm sure there will be some exceptions to the rule with those too.
I'm not going to discuss wheather it is logical or not for consoles that come with Tier 5 ships to be exchangable on other ships. In many cases it probably is. But, it's the game design, a by the game design the consoles that come with Tier 5 ship can't be used on any other ship than the one they came with. It is what it is, we're stuck with it.
However, there are no exceptions to this rule. Yes, all Federation cruisers have saucer and stardrive sections, but only 2 of them can preform saucer separation in game. Those two are the Galaxy and the Odyssey. Now, the fun part - the Galaxy console is called 'saucer separation' and can be used only on Galaxy class ships, while the Odyssey one that comes with the Operations Odyssey is called 'chevron separation' and can be used only on Odyssey class ships. Both ships are unable to slot each-other's console in the opposite ship.
The Aquarius is not a shuttle, it's an escort that is launched by the Oddy - the same as the Bortasqu's BoP. They are basically a copy of each other. The Aquarius is a part of the Odyssey cruiser integrated in it's basic design. You don't launch the Aquarius from the shuttlebay, you detach it from the aft section of the cruiser itself, just like the BoP.
Its the way the game is setup and it isn't unique to the Romulans.
If you throw logic in then every star fleet ship would take the cloaking device out of the defiant and slot it...
The idea is that Tier 5 "refit" ships have a console that has a unique flavor only for that ship class. So yes the Promethus gets is multi vector... the galaxy gets its ship seperation ... the defiant gets its cloak. The Intrepid gets some abladive armour.
Logicly some of those things could be used on other ships... but there not because 1) this is a game... it doesn't make sense to let anyone load up the strongest consoles all on one ship... the lowbie consoles are intended to be a bit less powerful and universal... the tier 5 are intended to be stronger. and 2) its based on a TV show where the iconic ships had something that made them special.
There has been talk about giving the Galaxy-X the ability to saucer sparate, but there are some technical issues preventing that. I do agree that the Galaxy separation and the Oddy separation consoles really should be one and the same. much like the Galaxy-X and the T5 Defiant. Heck, I would say if you purchased the c-store variant, you should be able to equip the separation console to it. I won't hold my breath, however.