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wufangchuwufangchu Member Posts: 778 Arc User
Whats with this?? I get booted from the game going into an stf and i get banned from doing stfs for an hour because the stupid program cant figure out i didnt leave, that in fact i never got a chance to enter?? Common cryptic. Your better than this.
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  • savnokasavnoka Member Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Perhaps you have some idea of how the game is supposed to detect a person Alt-F4 to avoid a losing / missed optional STF and a legitimate crash?

    Leaver penalties have always been controversial and I've never been convinced they do a lick of good, but if we're going to have them then one must accept that there's times you get stung by them. I guarantee you if they weren't implemented and people were dropping out of STF's the second they went south, and it happened to you, you'd not restrain yourself from posting a complaint demanding why Cryptic didn't have leaver penalties.
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  • chulaksaviour1chulaksaviour1 Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Unfortunately, I have an hours ban after suffering so much lag my game client crashed. It's just one of those things you suffer for the greater good. Granted the problem was on my end and I feel I let down my team-mates. I've had some good pug match ups recently too :(
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  • kalanikalani Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    There has to be something that can be done to make it better. Possibly a voting system so that if someone leaves, its up to the team thats been left do hit the player with the penalty and 3 players must vote to do it. That way in this case a player would at least have a chance of not getting dinged. This would also take into account times where a match starts up with out the required 5 people and is imposable from the start.

    Another thing is to set in a time limit so that if an STF thats supposed to take 25 min to complete is still being attempted 50 min later someone can leave without penalty. That doesn't help the OPs situation but could help in others where you have a team that is not only not helping but being counter productive.

    Another thing that could help when one is found in the OPs situation is an exemption to the penalty if another player is put in the match within one min of the 1st players entrance into the STF.

    These are just the things I can come up with off the top of my head that could make this penalty a lot less of a problem for the people it wasn't intended for.
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  • wufangchuwufangchu Member Posts: 778 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Well, when you leave an STf, you "have" to press the leave system button. The watchdog could be looking for that input instead of just taking any occurrence of the player departing as a voluntary action.
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  • earlnyghthawkearlnyghthawk Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    That wouldn't take into account, someone purposely logging out, disconnecting their wireless/wired router, or internet connection as a whole, to get around the "I didn't push the leave button" routine you suggest. PPl do all sorts of BS, to TRIBBLE over another player, in some cases. Not all people mind you, but the griefers will in a heartbeat.:mad:
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  • stilletojoestilletojoe Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Yup... I was in a Borg Mission, which with just the 5 players can be very difficult, found that a person left... we 4 remaining soldiered on tho it began looking near impossible, next thing I know, it IS impossible as I am the only person remaining, no choice but to exit... Am I a leaver who has earned punishment?

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  • tequilapastatequilapasta Member Posts: 64 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I've had the 5-second bug a pile of times and have never acquired a leaving penalty.

    Are you sure that you didn't wait some period of time before abusing your teammates and quitting the STF?
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  • artanisenartanisen Member Posts: 431 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    wufangchu wrote: »
    Whats with this?? I get booted from the game going into an stf and i get banned from doing stfs for an hour because the stupid program cant figure out i didnt leave, that in fact i never got a chance to enter?? Common cryptic. Your better than this.

    i noticed it, some sorta weird bug,

    for me few days ago i had issue with stf as well.
    it was really weird.

    when i had pve queues tab open, clicked a borg stf(ISE)
    and before i could press Join to start the countdown.
    i got disconnected, when i came back i was banned
    from stf for an hour.
    and i didnt even join a match yet.
  • captainpugwash1captainpugwash1 Member Posts: 908 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Had it loads of times lately,,,,,,,game crashes and
    i cant get back in time cause have to reboot cause the computer tells me the game is still running by which time its normally over and im banned,,,,,,,,,,but thats life the way the games playing up at the moment,,,,,,,,,
  • syberghostsyberghost Member Posts: 1,711 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    kalani2 wrote: »
    There has to be something that can be done to make it better. Possibly a voting system so that if someone leaves, its up to the team thats been left do hit the player with the penalty and 3 players must vote to do it.

    You drop, and four other people get an annoying popup they have to click through? And they know that if they all click one option, you won't be teamed with them for another hour, during which they're less likely to get more of those annoying popups?
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  • artanisenartanisen Member Posts: 431 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    what could be better is to set up the leaver penalty
    on the mission that the person left and not the entire
    pve queue.

    this would make it easier for people to leave a match
    when there are afkers or when they get disconnection/booted
    from the match.
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