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terence12
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i was thinking of starting a new fleet but e3veryone has to fly a shuttle
and pvp so its like attack of the shuttle swarm or somethng
its like people don;t know how to have fun or somethng , i mean you could start the "galor only fleet" or the "ferengi D'kora horror fleet"
instead , just boring ol regualr stupid fleets collecting good consoles and stuff
i would do a Catiian fleet and have carriers and stealth shuttles all over the place
or just a shuttle fleet would be cool
and pvp so its like attack of the shuttle swarm or somethng
its like people don;t know how to have fun or somethng , i mean you could start the "galor only fleet" or the "ferengi D'kora horror fleet"
instead , just boring ol regualr stupid fleets collecting good consoles and stuff
i would do a Catiian fleet and have carriers and stealth shuttles all over the place
or just a shuttle fleet would be cool
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It would be very fun.
In all seriousness, good luck with that endeavour, all you need is 4 more people and you can create one.
i swithc it out with the phtonic or impulse
with the temporal defelcetor, yellowstone engine and n'far sheild
make'n regualr fleets cry home to mama
With laughter, I dare say.
I wish you luck in your endeavour. But you'll fail at trying to win PvP matches in shuttles. Bugships, BoP's and Kumari's tear through even the hardiest of cruisers. Shuttles don't have the hull strength or shields to match.
thats pretty interesting
especially since i have been winning pvp matches in a shuttle for like two years now
with about 78,908 kills
i must be like a super hero on here or somethng
Of course you have. /Sarcasm.
I would quote Cruiser Vs Shuttle hull strength and shield modifiers.
But since you're clearly trolling, I won't waste my breath trying to use fact in this thread.
i posted wins afor
i could do it agin
but i ain;t out to prove anytng
rather, start a shuttle fleet
cause i am more humble then everyone or somethng
thats a dead end
you go stealth and speed and shoot off wierd consoles and mask
that is why photonic diplacement is a mainstay , course its not working right now
so impulse blast, stealth console, thoron pulse
then gas from the yellowstone engine, cut beam from the temporal, and force field from the n'far
thats alot of weapons and about the best defense i could come up with
one is stealth fighter - they can;t focus on what they can;t detect
with mask and photonic and thoron and impulse blast - its a hard kill if you don;t hang around its a hit and run
the force fiiled from the n'far can keep u alive as last ditch
i say healing just means you got hit, and as such 0 healing is the goal in so far as healing
thnx for the reply - normal players would get creamed tho - i do not dispute this
however, for the superior....
Except the Stalker - I presume it what you're talking about, since nothing else in game is classed as a stealth fighter - isn't full blown stealth fighter. It has no battle cloak, so when you're not using MES, you're as obvious as the Caitian carrier.
Furthermore, that's a lot of unique consoles for one small ship. A ship which only has room for three consoles. So let's see. You've got the Photonic Displacer, Thoron Generator module and Impulse Burst consoles. And you've got room for one Boff ability - which you've stated to be Mask Energy Signature. Plus you're using the Na'Far shield, Subatomic Deflector Array and Yellowstone engines.
However, by doing all of that, you've missed a few key areas whereby you could easily be reduced to mush in a matter of seconds by even an average player.
Tractor Beam - Since you've used up your only Boff slot with MES, you haven't got Polarise Hull and therefore you have no method of releasing youself from a tractor beam, aside from the Thoron console but that requires you to be facing the enemy. If you're not, boom. You're dead. Likewise, lacking Polarise Hull means you're completely at the mercy of Gravity Well, Photonic Shockwave, Singularity Jump et al.
Tractor Beam Repulsors - Similarly, TBR doesn't require target acquisition to deal damage. Get too close and not only are you going to get a metric ton of kinetic damage directly to your hull, but you'll also have your postion given away. Boom, dead - again.
Eject Warp Plasma - Since you're also not carrying any heals - especially Hazard Emitters - you have no way to escape the damage and slowdown that EWP will cause. Get caught in one of those and you're dead. And yes, you've got your own in the form of the Tetryon engines. What the other players have that you don't is Boff slots that will allow for the use of abilities like Hazard Emitters which will negate the effects of EWP and ETWP. So your engines are nice, but somewhat pointless against a well-prepared foe.
Photonic Fleet, Nimbus Distress Call, Fleet Support, Carrier Pets, Saucer/Chevron Seperation, Aquarius/Hoh'Sus deployment, Mines and Cloaked Tractor Beam Mines - Or basically anything else that will attack you automatically, regardless of whether the owner is aware of you or not. This speaks for itself really. Boom, dead.
Additionally, I sincerely doubt you can match any large ship in the game, pound for pound, in terms of damage. At Max Level, every ship has at least six weapon slots. Cruisers can go up to eight, Escorts typically seven. Shuttles have two. And you've got no room for any damage boosting consoles, because you've used them all up with your unique consoles.
Now, you've got a choice of weapons here. But, unless you're using turrets or Shuttle beam arrays, you're also at a disadvantage any time you're not facing the enemy - be it DBB's, torps or cannons, you get a 45' - 90' firing arc. Assuming a fairly normal setup of one 360' beam/turret and one torp launcher. That means you have one weapon always on target and one on target every time it enters that 90' torpedo arc. It also means you have one weapon good for stripping shields and one for dealing direct kinetic damage.
So at VA level, let's take a ship that is fairly common in space - the Galaxy-X.
At max level, the Stalker has an unmodified hull strength of roughly 16,500. The Galaxy-X, on the other hand, has a hull strength of 40,000. More than twice that of the Stalker, or any other comparable shuttlecraft. Similarly, the Galaxy-X has a shield modifier of 1 - the Stalker makes do with a measly 0.5. Because it's a shuttle.
You have two weapons. The Galaxy-X has eight - nine if you include the Spinal Lance. Plus a cloaking device console. Again, assuming a fairly competitive weapons build - six Mk XII Fleet Elite Phaser Beam Banks, two Mk XII Fleet Advanced Photon Torpedo launchers - means that at any given time, the Galaxy-X has at least three weapons capable of hitting you, and at at most, six. Combine that with a platitude of consoles to improve phaser damage, photon projectile damage, add armour to the hull etc etc. And also bear in mind that shuttle weapons do not go up to Mk XI, so you're what, ten dps down already compared to one of the Galaxy-X's beams.
So with all the above in mind, this brings me back to your tactic - Hit and Run. Hit and run implies you're whizzing in, striking with such force as to strip an enemy's shield and cause significant hull damage before whizzing back out before they know what hit them without taking damage yourself.
On which, I call codswallop.
Let's ignore the fact that most PvPers will be looking for the tell-tale impluse wake that would be a dead give away that you're approaching, or that they're so used to fighting cloaked Klingon Birds Of Prey they're going to spot you a mile away, and they'll have a hand hovering over their spacebar the entire time.
I'm willing to bet that with clever use of impluse burst and Evasive, you could perform a hit and run, but not that you're able to deliver a sledgehammer blow capable of crippling a cruiser in a ship with only two weapons.
Maybe if you're PvPing in groups when in your shuttle, it makes sense. It might look as though you're speeding in and delivering the killing blow, but I imagine it's really all your team doing all the work and carrying you to victory.
But hey, if you want to believe that you're the best player this game, or any game, has ever seen, you keep on believing that.
Doesn't actually make it true, but hey - who cares about the truth, right? The truth is unimportant when there's internet forums that urgently need you to make threads about how awesome you think you are.
The metaphasic shield is not an "I win" button. How do I know? Because no-one would fly the JHAS in PvP if there was something else that functioned as an I win button.
So yeah. My stance of "you're trolling" stands.
wall of text ending with "troll"
calling people names isn;t very nice
i guess you mom raised someon to call strangers names and thats cool
however, since truth is your bag (lol) i suggest pvp and learn or somethng
, i mean u could be like 12 , which would excplain the need to argue with a stranger on a game message board
This thread has now most definitely run its course, and isn't providing any constructive feedback, so due to this as well as high number of flaming/trolling posts and/or reported posts in this thread, I'm closing this thread down.
Thanks,
syberghost